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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 18:26
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by cacha71 cacha71 wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

no no no you`ve got it all wrong  progressive rock is more progressive than progressive rock . But sometimes progressive rock can be more progressive. Sometimes. But only when it`s more progressive.
 
Good point. 


hahahhahah

I must add that he's progably right LOL


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Nah, I think he's confusing progressive rock with progressive rock, the differences are subtle, but any fan of progressive rock can tell them apart without even hearing the music.


ahhh.... but what is rock GeekLOL

http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=33

http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=6

and my favorite

http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=32

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Ah, yes, but, no, but,
 
 
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 oh you are a peach Dean... 

what, when, where.,.....why?

ahhhhhh....

http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=28

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that's easy for you to say, but remove all the whatsname...
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 18:29
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by cacha71 cacha71 wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

no no no you`ve got it all wrong  progressive rock is more progressive than progressive rock . But sometimes progressive rock can be more progressive. Sometimes. But only when it`s more progressive.
 
Good point. 


hahahhahah

I must add that he's progably right LOL


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Nah, I think he's confusing progressive rock with progressive rock, the differences are subtle, but any fan of progressive rock can tell them apart without even hearing the music.


ahhh.... but what is rock GeekLOL

http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=33

http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=6

and my favorite

http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=32

LOL
Ah, yes, but, no, but,
 
 
Shocked


 oh you are a peach Dean... 

what, when, where.,.....why?

ahhhhhh....

http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=28

LOL

*god I love quote pyramids hahah*


that's easy for you to say, but remove all the whatsname...
 
 


sh*t... I knew that was coming. LOL  I'm retreating back to the crossdressing page.. though I'm afraid it's too late to escape retaliation from Raff on this one LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 18:37
Every band I like I think is prog. And I demand that they all be on this site.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 18:41
Nowadays it seems prog = good music.

HEY! I love Arcade Fire, I think they're progressive. Let's include them on the site!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 18:51
Originally posted by explodingjosh explodingjosh wrote:

Every band I like I think is prog. And I demand that they all be on this site.


Exactly, it's in my collection, therefore it is prog.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 19:11
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by explodingjosh explodingjosh wrote:

Every band I like I think is prog. And I demand that they all be on this site.


Exactly, it's in my collection, therefore it is prog.


same here



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 19:15
Dude, tell me you don't actually have any Benatar in your collection/Ermm
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 19:20
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Dude, tell me you don't actually have any Benatar in your collection/Ermm



you mean to tell me you DON'T have any? 

hell yeah....  all of them.  Right next to my collection of Streisand albums.  Man can't live on prog alone.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 19:21
Yeah, well I don't live on prog alone, but I prefer to supplement it with other stuff. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 19:22

I have Pat Benatar albums, but I draw the line at Barbara Streisand.

Based on that premise that all my albums are prog, I also have a Paula Abdul and a couple of Samantha Fox CDs that snuck into my collection in a moment of weakness.  Progressive bubblegum???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 19:38
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

As far as I'm concerned there is Progressive Rock (with a capital P) and this is a particular genre of music which is mainly the "classic" bands of the 70s (we all know who the main ones are) and also extends to a number of current bands such as Spock's Beard. There is also progressive music (small P) which applies to any band who are pushing out the boundaries.  This would include such bands as GYBE, Thinking Plague, who I wouldn't personally call "prog".
I usually think of it like this - if a major record shop such as HMV had such a thing as (God forbid) a progressive rock section, which bands would they include? Yes, Genesis, ELP, Marillion - yes. Jazz-fusion bands - no. Post-rock - probably not.
 
I agree with you on this.
 
I think there is a specific prog genre which you speak of. This maninly consists of the 70s symph prog/art rock stuff. Now there are also bands whose genre wouldn't be considered prog, but aspects of their music are still progressive. For example, like you said, I wouldn't call Godspeed a prog band, but they're more of a progressive post-rock band. They don't make "prog", but the music they do make (post-roc) has many progressive qualities.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 19:46

HMV has a section called Metal - 60% of what's in there I do not consider to be Metal at all (when does Green Carnation come just before Green Day in Metal?) - I would not trust HMV to correctly classify anything as Prog for they would have a section in there for Solo Phil Collins and GY!BE would reside alongside Sigor Ros in the Dance section. Disapprove

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 19:54
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I have Pat Benatar albums, but I draw the line at Barbara Streisand.

Based on that premise that all my albums are prog, I also have a Paula Abdul and a couple of Samantha Fox CDs that snuck into my collection in a moment of weakness.  Progressive bubblegum???



hahahhah.... you could have that crap....  I'll stick with Barbs hahahhahaWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 22:28
Unfortunately there's another type of "progressive" music getting around its a techno dance type thing and its really starting to steal our title (crap is king and the good don't last long)  anyway my point is calling what we like "prog" is the best solution the term progressive has been hijacked by something almost as bad if not worse than punk. I couldn't believe the audacity when I first heard about this progressive dance crap  like how dare they !  Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 22:44
Prog isn't a real word, it means nothing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 22:47
 ^ tell that to the good people of Prague Stern%20Smile              Clown


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 23:42
Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

Unfortunately there's another type of "progressive" music getting around its a techno dance type thing and its really starting to steal our title (crap is king and the good don't last long)  anyway my point is calling what we like "prog" is the best solution the term progressive has been hijacked by something almost as bad if not worse than punk. I couldn't believe the audacity when I first heard about this progressive dance crap  like how dare they !  Angry
 
A year agio a kid came and ranted "WTF, no Progressive House bands" LOL
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2007 at 23:54
I've never, ever heard anyone refer to prog as Prog with a capital P, now all these definitions are based on whether or not the word is capitalized. It's getting ridiculous! Why can't prog just be a short form for progressive rock?!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2007 at 00:14
Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

I've never, ever heard anyone refer to prog as Prog with a capital P, now all these definitions are based on whether or not the word is capitalized. It's getting ridiculous! Why can't prog just be a short form for progressive rock?!
 
For God's sake, it's simply a matter of grammar
 
  1. Progressive Rock is a name of a genre....proper nouns are written with capital letters
  2. progressive is an adjective...........adjectives use low case
  3. Prog is an abbreviation of Progressive Rock...Abbreviations follow the same rules for capital letters as complete words do, so if Progressive Rock uses Capital P, then Prog. does too.

As simple as that.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2007 at 00:16
Check out my Kraftwerk Computerworld review, I asked some of the questions about what is progressive in the forums there in the review.
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