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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

These are 10 of my least favourite prog albums from 10 of my favourite artists, arranged in alphabetical order:-
 
Kate Bush - The Dreaming (1982)
Steve Hackett - Cured (1981)
Steve Hillage - Rainbow Dome Musick (1979)
King Crimson - Discipline (1981)
National Health - Missing Pieces (1994)
Queen - Hot Space (1982)
Renaissance - Time-Line (1983)
Soft Machine - Fourth (1971)
Spooky Tooth - Ceremony (with Pierre Henry) (1970)
Van der Graaf Generator - Present (2005)
 
 
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Hi,

I can't say that I do not like some of the albums by some of the bands that I have over 15/20 cd's of. I have a terrible hard time figuring out which album I like more than the other, but in general, when I like the band, the albums and their differences do not matter.

Some fans like the 5th, others the 9th ... I like the 3rd myself! (Mahler), but there is nothing in those things that suggest the work is not very good, or great ... for me it flies and then some!


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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

These are 10 of my least favourite prog albums from 10 of my favourite artists, arranged in alphabetical order:-
 
Kate Bush - The Dreaming (1982)
Steve Hackett - Cured (1981)
Steve Hillage - Rainbow Dome Musick (1979)
King Crimson - Discipline (1981)
National Health - Missing Pieces (1994)
Queen - Hot Space (1982)
Renaissance - Time-Line (1983)
Soft Machine - Fourth (1971)
Spooky Tooth - Ceremony (with Pierre Henry) (1970)
Van der Graaf Generator - Present (2005)
 
 
Which are your 10 least favourite prog albums Question

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I love VDGG's second and third albums. Big smile

5 stars 1970: Van der Graaf Generator - The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNuUilJm-b2csXdNoaBVzfCvJFuEhYIfo
5 stars 1970: Van der Graaf Generator - H to He, Who Am the Only One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQR6e_wpeiY
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I'll just mention one album:
 
Van der Graaf Generator - ALT
 

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"Albums We Love to Hate from Artists We Love"

My approach is quite different as I certainly mostly just love some albums from a huge number of artists, and don't think much 
about the rest of it - at least when talking about what I love. 
                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

5 stars 1970: Van der Graaf Generator - H to He, Who Am the Only One 

nice to see that
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Just off the top of my head:

1. Yes: Union
2. Genesis: Calling All Stations
3. Saga: Generation 13
4. Alan Parsons Project: Eve/Ammonia Avenue (tie)
5. Moody Blues: The Other Side of Life/Sur La Mer (tie)
6. Steve Hackett: Blues with a Feeling
7. E.L.P.: In the Hot Seat
8. Barclay James Harvest: Victims of Circumstance
9. Pink Floyd: The Wall
10. Marillion: Fugazi
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Just off the top of my head:

1. Yes: Union
2. Genesis: Calling All Stations
3. Saga: Generation 13
4. Alan Parsons Project: Eve/Ammonia Avenue (tie)
5. Moody Blues: The Other Side of Life/Sur La Mer (tie)
6. Steve Hackett: Blues with a Feeling
7. E.L.P.: In the Hot Seat
8. Barclay James Harvest: Victims of Circumstance
9. Pink Floyd: The Wall
10. Marillion: Fugazi
Half of those albums are in my CD collection. Big smile
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Just off the top of my head:

1. Yes: Union
2. Genesis: Calling All Stations
3. Saga: Generation 13
4. Alan Parsons Project: Eve/Ammonia Avenue (tie)
5. Moody Blues: The Other Side of Life/Sur La Mer (tie)
6. Steve Hackett: Blues with a Feeling
7. E.L.P.: In the Hot Seat
8. Barclay James Harvest: Victims of Circumstance
9. Pink Floyd: The Wall
10. Marillion: Fugazi

Fugazi, eh? It's one of the two Marillion albums I like. LOL

Union is better than some other Yes albums, too, but I realize it's subjective.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


These are 10 of my least favourite prog albums from 10 of my favourite artists, arranged in alphabetical order:-
 
Kate Bush - The Dreaming (1982)
Steve Hackett - Cured (1981)
Steve Hillage - Rainbow Dome Musick (1979)
King Crimson - Discipline (1981)
National Health - Missing Pieces (1994)
Queen - Hot Space (1982)
Renaissance - Time-Line (1983)
Soft Machine - Fourth (1971)
Spooky Tooth - Ceremony (with Pierre Henry) (1970)
Van der Graaf Generator - Present (2005)
 
 
Which are your 10 least favourite prog albums Question
National Health and Soft Machine your favorite artists?? Which albums?

Can't say I hate any album but Dream Theater's "The Astonishing" was not for me.

Edited by Grumpyprogfan - May 04 2023 at 15:02
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^ Soft Machine's Land of Cockayne and National Health's debut are just the prescription I need. Smile
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I hadn't listed Tangerine Dream earlier, but in fact I was a huge fan of them (and still am up to the point where they lost me) but the double whammy of Tyger and Optical Race (after a few albums in 84-86 that had not exactly been top notch either) made me lose interest in any further work. It took me some 30 years from 1988 before touching anything more recent of them.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Soft Machine's Land of Cockayne and National Health's debut are just the prescription I need. Smile
Haha. I need a prescription for more cowbell.
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Land of Cockayne also disappoints.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Soft Machine's Land of Cockayne and National Health's debut are just the prescription I need. Smile
Haha. I need a prescription for more cowbell.

These guys need more cowbell too, or they'll be wearing gold-plated diapers! (whatever that means). Tongue

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I hadn't listed Tangerine Dream earlier, but in fact I was a huge fan of them (and still am up to the point where they lost me) but the double whammy of Tyger and Optical Race (after a few albums in 84-86 that had not exactly been top notch either) made me lose interest in any further work. It took me some 30 years from 1988 before touching anything more recent of them.

Optical Race had such potential, and does have some nice material, but the duds and the soundbanks from the multiple D-50/550 units really bring everything down. At least we got one stunner with Edgar on guitar in "Sun Gate"!

What do you not like in '84-86? All tops, IMO, especially Poland.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:


What do you not like in '84-86? All tops, IMO, especially Poland.

Poland and Underwater Sunlight are fine even though I don't listen remotely as often to them as to what came before, Le Parc less so, I mean it has some good stuff but is more superficial than earlier work, and I'm not a fan of Firestarter and Heartbreakers, which are much weaker than earlier soundtracks. The latter three are still enjoyable to some extent but three stars max for me (in fact also Underwater Sunlight which is good but hasn't anything really exciting on it). They churned out some further soundtracks in these years that I don't know.

I see that Underwater Sunlight has an average rating higher than any album between Exit and Hyperborea, but I think all four of these are quite a bit stronger.


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:


What do you not like in '84-86? All tops, IMO, especially Poland.

Poland and Underwater Sunlight are fine even though I don't listen remotely as often to them as to what came before, Le Parc less so, I mean it has some good stuff but is more superficial than earlier work, and I'm not a fan of Firestarter and Heartbreakers, which are much weaker than earlier soundtracks. The latter three are still enjoyable to some extent but three stars max for me (in fact also Underwater Sunlight which is good but hasn't anything really exciting on it). They churned out some further soundtracks in these years that I don't know.

I see that Underwater Sunlight has an average rating higher than any album between Exit and Hyperborea, but I think all four of these are quite a bit stronger.

Up to and including Underwater Sunlight I think TD were still putting out good stuff. Agree what you said earlier about Tyger, after that it was a slippery slope that followed. Edgar decided to shoe horn his son into the band in the early 90's and that didn't help matters imo. After Franke and Haslinger left it was Tangerine Dream in name only.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Soft Machine's Land of Cockayne and National Health's debut are just the prescription I need. Smile

Land of Cockayne is a beauty. I prefer it to Bundles. But then again I prefer Fourth over both of them (and really like Missing Pieces)
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