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Thank heavens for this thread!Clap I think the whole Canterbury movement should receive much more credit than it generally does. As things are, it is very much of a 'cult' phenomenon, which is a great pity. True, the albums are not always easy to find, but in my opinion they deserve every effort we make in order to trace them. As I see it, Canterbury offers all the musical complexity and proficiency of other prog subgenres, coupled with a rare quality - namely, humour, which is all too often lacking in prog (especially, I must say, in Prog-Metal).

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I guess you haven't heard Arjen Lucassen's cover of Donovan's The Intergalactic Laxative Wink

I generally skirt around the fringes of Canterbury, having discovered Soft Machine and Matching Mole through Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom, I moved onto Kevin Ayers, Gong and Steve Hillage.

I never knew Quiet Sun as "Canterbury" until I came to the PA: in 1975 I bought Mainstream at the same time as Diamond Head because they were Phil Manzanera albums and not by any Canterburyesque connection through Bil MacCormick/Matching Mole. Still, it's a great album and also worth checking out the live version of 'Rongwrong' on 801 Live. One jaw dropping comment from Wikipedia - Mainstream is apparently Island Records 4th or 5th biggest selling album of all time (*Dean casts an eye over his Roxy Music, Cat Stevens, U2, Bad Company, King Crimson, Bob Marley, John Cale, Nick Drake, and Traffic albums and reaches for a hefty pinch of salt*) .
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

This is interesting, anyone ever hear of this project called Soft Heap?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_Heap_(band)


I have one of their albums and it's brilliant.  I plan to get the one and only Soft Head album too.  The second Soft Heap album has alluded me so far though.

Think of Soft Machine's sax and bass lines, with National Health's added rhythms, it's excellent.

If you love Hatfileld and the North, which I know you do, also check out Phil Miller's In Cahoots.  I have one of their albums and it's great as well.

I also plan to get Pip Pyle's Bash plus some L'Equipe Out at some point too.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2008 at 12:38
James, when my wife yells at me for the credit card bill, can I blame you?  Wink

Thanks for Phil Miller rec....I've also heard good things about Equipe Out, have to look into that as well.
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Well those albums are often noted just as In Cahoots as well.

As a matter of interest, Wayside Music have a Phil Miller In Cahoots album available at the moment.  I plan to get it eventually.

Oh and don't forget Hugh Hopper's various projects and solo efforts either.
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Well, Micky will be lucky, because his wife will never yell at him because of his CD purchases... She'll be too busy to buy some of her own!LOL

I've definitely got to get hold of some of the stuff you mentioned here. I've recently heard there is a new music store in Rome, where they have a large stock of prog (among other things).. I'll try it first before I resort to ordering anything online.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2008 at 14:09
Ratledge's playing on "Out-bloody-rageous" is so freakin' brilliant - I must have listened to that track three times yesterday.
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Ratledge's playing on "Out-bloody-rageous" is so freakin' brilliant - I must have listened to that track three times yesterday.


We do have some connection, Pat, because that is my favourite track from Third... I do agree with you about Ratledge's playing - in my review of the album I think I called him an unsung keyboard hero!LOL
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Sorting out a few albums today and come across something that will interest the Gong,Hillage people here.I expect you may already know about it.The album is by clearlight (Cyrille Verdeaux),called Symphony.It has Steve Hillage,Didier Malherbe,and Tim Blake playing on it.Not canterbury style but it will make an interesting item for any Gong,Hillage fan.Wink
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Saw the entry for that album here in the archives - looks like it got great reviews.  Thanks for mentioning it.
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Another great one by them is Forever Blowing Bubbles (it's the one in oliverstoned's avatar). A great album, not really Canterbury, but definitely worth checking out.
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2008 at 01:40
Yesterday I got Caravan and the New Symphonia... Listening to it now. The version of "For Richard" is very good, though of course R. Sinclair can't help being sorely missed.
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Only recently picked on Hatfield's "The Rotters Club" and "In The Land Of Grey And Pink" by Caravan but both great albums and I dont know why I missed out on them when they were originally released.

I have some birthday money to spend so any recommendations of others along those lines would be greatly appreciated.

Re the road sign for The North/Hatfield I do remember seeing a sign that actually said "Hatfield And The North" many years ago when heading back to the Midlands from Brighton,no idea where it was though
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

The sign in my sig used to say "Hatfield and the North" at one point, then it was changed, I don't know why.  A forum member here used to live in Potter's Bar and remembers the original sign.

Do get Hatfield's s/t debut, in my opinion it's just as good as The Rotter's Club.
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

The sign in my sig used to say "Hatfield and the North" at one point, then it was changed, I don't know why.  A forum member here used to live in Potter's Bar and remembers the original sign.

Do get Hatfield's s/t debut, in my opinion it's just as good as The Rotter's Club.
I think it was changed when the A1(M) section was opened, (1973?), I believe the original sign was an all green background (trunk-road) not blue (motorway).
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Have to agree,Hatfield and the Norths debut album is a must if you like the rotters club.There's a few very nice touches to it which makes it a very interesting album too.Thumbs%20Up

Caravan's albums all have their own unique feel about them,Could suggest one that really stands out that was released before Land of Grey and pink.Try "If I Could Do It All Over Again".It has much more going on in it,with great vocals to match.If you like that one then move on to "For Girls Who Grow Plump".

Somewhere I have seen a picture of that old sign,just cannot remember if it was in one of the old music mags,on internet,a book,record cover.Don't know its bugging me.AGHHHHHH!.Confused
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If I Could Do.... is my favourite Caravan album, even more so than ITLOGAP. I also love For Girls.. though I think Richard Sinclair's vocals are sorely missed. I apologise beforehand for the shameless self-plugging, but I have reviewed a good deal of Caravan's albums, and perhaps you might be interested in checking those reviews out.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

If you love Wyatt, check out News from Babel's second album Letters Home.  Wyatt guests on it as a vocalist and it's brilliant.



As great as the best albumsreleased by anyone involved, and that says a lot!

I agree with everyone suggesting Supersister. And I agree with Cos even more. After that check out some great French Canterbury" by Moving Gelatine Plates (two first) and Travelling.
Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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If you guys are looking for some more modern (well, late 90's) Canterbury, I recommend checking out the American group Volaré. Their first, The Uncertainty Principle, is my personal favorite of their two. If you've ever heard The Muffins, it'd be a great idea to look into these guys.
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