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BaldFriede
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Joined: June 02 2005
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 13:57 |
As I mentioned in another thread, the lyrics of VdGG are very much
tongue in cheek; you should hear Peter Hammill talking about these
lyrics himself.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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The Prognaut
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 14 2004
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 17:10 |
Sure humor belongs in prog! I quite enjoy the morbidity exposed by Peter Gabriel in several Genesis albums, the wit and the acid romance still displayed by Fish and the sardonic and ingenious hints pointed out by Roger Waters... Humor ain't only laughs and roars, it's gotta be more than that. In prog, it's a blend of the blackest humor and the easiest and cheapest way to burst into laughter. It is as inexplicable as simple to figure out in my opinion.
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RoyalJelly
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Joined: September 29 2005
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Points: 582
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 18:07 |
As far as "Willow Farm" goes, you can't put it to in the same
category as "Benny the Bouncer"...Gabriel was quite steeped in
the age old tradition of British absurdity, as exemplified by
Swift, Lewis Carrol, Edward Gorey, etc. "Willow Farm" is a
brilliantly poetic depiction of the absurdities of being raised in
the conservative British society ("you're all full of ball!"), and
musically very sophisticated. A ditty like "Benny the Bouncer" is
more closely related to the jolly tradition of British drinking
songs, a pure example of which is "Mother's Lament" on the
Cream's "Disraeli Gears". Of couse there's room for both, thank
god.
By the way, that guy who said there's no place for humour
when engaged in serious musical contemplation...he was
joking, but a few people didn't notice.
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krauthead
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Joined: May 30 2005
Location: Sweden
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 18:11 |
Yeah, like it belongs every now and then in the real life itself... not all the time though that would be crazy
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*Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond
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Proglover
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Joined: June 09 2005
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 18:52 |
corbet wrote:
There is absolutely no place for humor in music. The important themes tackled by the master progressive musicians cannot be approached lightly; even less can the arduous task of comprehending their legacy be undertaken with even the slightest hint of frivolity. When I am at a King Crimson symposium, trying to take notes, what is one to do when disturbed by that loathesome noise which is laughter? I can only shake my head and hope that future generations leave behind this notion of "funny" and return to the ponderous work of musical contemplation. |
Oh delusional one!!!!!!!!!!!........There is humor is Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, so on and so forth. Their music is ten time more "serious" and ten times more complex than prog rock. So get over yourself. Relax and have some damn fun.
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BaldFriede
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 02 2005
Location: Germany
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 19:11 |
Proglover wrote:
corbet wrote:
There is absolutely no place
for humor in music. The important themes tackled by
the master progressive musicians cannot be approached lightly;
even less can the arduous task of comprehending
their legacy be undertaken with even the slightest hint
of frivolity. When I am at a King Crimson symposium, trying to
take notes, what is one to do when disturbed by that loathesome noise
which is laughter? I can only shake my head and hope that future
generations leave behind this notion of "funny" and return to
the ponderous work of musical contemplation. |
Oh delusional one!!!!!!!!!!!........There is humor is Bach, Mozart,
Beethoven, so on and so forth. Their music is ten time more "serious"
and ten times more complex than prog rock. So get over yourself. Relax
and have some damn fun. |
I definitely am of the opinion corbet's post was tongue-in-cheek.
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pero
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 11 2005
Location: Croatia
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Points: 1242
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 05:36 |
Frank Zappa and Captain Beefhart can play with humor, because they have strong personalities.
I think that most humorus are the bands who are trying to be serious, like Hawkind, Saga, Styx, and dont have either personality either quality so they become funny
Sorry for my English writing
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 28 2005
Location: Germany
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Points: 10387
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 05:41 |
I very much doubt Hawkwind are serious. they definitely were not during the Calvert era
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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krauthead
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Location: Sweden
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Posted: October 02 2005 at 07:09 |
BaldJean wrote:
I very much doubt Hawkwind are serious. they definitely were not during the Calvert era |
Exact, it would be like saying that most Gong songs are serious.
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Peter
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Joined: January 31 2004
Location: Canada
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 23:28 |
Bumpity-bump!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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