Will science ever know everything? |
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Chaser
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These are all good quotes, but nothing suggests that any of this CANNOT be known, only that it is not known at the present time. It would still be possible to envisage a future time when these questions have been answered.
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Tillerman88
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Yeah , who dares to disprove that please throw the first stone.
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Icarium
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According to Richard Fineman, the goal of science is not to know things but for the joy of finding things out and the aww of discovering a solution to a new puzle. Science is not to find a satisgying answer but to always seek to always persue the fact that you really dont know.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Not with its present ontological and epistemological assumptions.
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Geeeee ... Einstein read THE BARDO?
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dr wu23
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Regarding the OP question.....science might know everything...in 10,000 years...assuming anyone is still around then.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Some people place too much stock in scientific knowledge. What I mean by that is if science doesn't prove it or it's not a scientific fact then they don't believe in it or even the possibility of it. So here is a list of things these kinds of people don't believe in:
The possibility of god or any kind of "supreme being" Ufos and the possibility of alien life ever visiting this planet Ghosts Life after death/the after life (also past lives, future lives etc) Big foot, lochness monster or any other unexplained phenomena All I'm saying is that imo science does not and cannot explain everything. If you look back in history there was a time when people thought the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth etc. Science has caught up to those things and it's likely it will catch up to other things we don't have scientific evidence for. I am a fan of science. I like science. However, I also try to keep an open mind with things.
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Add to the list
1. The existence of a being or beings or dimensions outside of our known universe unmeasurable by our science. While we may be confined to our time and space, this does not mean that they (if they exist) are. 2. Moral law is difficult to explain on the basis of science, and human decisions often run contradictory to what would be expected by science. 3. If bubble universes exist, we may never see them. 4. If we exist in an orthogonal space to another ... or a repeating space ... etc etc we may never know. 5. If the universe expands and contracts like a yo yo or just expands ... |
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^^ A lot of people who complain about science don't really understand it or the scientific method. Science does not deal with proof, it deals with evidence and presents tentative models for better understanding how things work. In science, it's about evidence as there is no proof (proof is used in logic, mathematics and law). It's not a closed system and every theory is open to questioning, adaptation or scrapping when new evidence comes to light. Science is about trying to understand how the universe works, but it shouldn't be making absolute truth claims as everything is open to reevaluation. Hypotheses, theories and claims are provisional and tentative; they are subject to change. One tries to present the best models. And the scientific method deals with that which is falsifiable, in other words that which could be proven "wrong". Of course I said In science there is no proof, but at the same time mathematics and logic are incorporated. A less confusing way to put it might be to say "could be demonstrated"or "shown" rather than "proven" (rather too depends on what one means by proof, as well as what constitutes evidence, and wrong can be a tricky word...). I don't believe anything with absolute certainty, and I prefer not to believe things without what I think are good reasons to believe in them. I am a sceptic. I don't claim to know what is possible or true in regards to many things. I studied philosophy far more than science, and I like this from Plato, paraphrased, "The first step on the road to wisdom is the recognition of one's own ignorance." Those who dismiss science because it can't answer everything, nor does it deal with everything, I think are rather missing the point and beauty of science.
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Jaketejas
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I use science everyday in my work. It's a great tool, despite its limitations
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The Hubble telescope images are amazingly beautiful. I have a poster from NASA with some of the more interesting images. I've always been particularly fascinated by pulsars, which are natural synchrotrons. Of course, we are looking into the past.
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Science is a tool only corrupted by OUR limitations those being spiritual (how to direct it) and intellectual (the limits of our present abilities. The process itself is a methodology that if used uncorrupted becomes a self-correcting system. However there existst much phony science for political or economic purposes so as a tool can be used for the greatest good or the most horrendous evil.
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Correction: ... despite the limits of detection of the instruments I use in my job. I would also like to clarify that I am not Dr. Evil. (Actually, I'm not sure I follow the logic here ... who are you saying is corrupting science? Are you talking about ethics?) |
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^ it's a general statement. I'm talking about the fact that science can tell you HOW to build the car but cannot tell you WHERE to drive it. Those are two different aspects of reality. The WHY you want to build it or even drive it is yet another question altogether.
I guess what i'm saying is that science is not the be all end all for every possible solution but has been very helpful for human evolution. While scientists were the equivalent of rock stars before the atomic bomb, the realization that the same methodology that saved countless lives could also be used to destroy them. As a science major for ten years in college i can atttest to the fact that it is used for both.
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Good points! And that having these bombs keeps the other who has these bombs in check. For a reality check on that, you might check out the flick April 19th. I don't know why I keep using the word check. I'm tired and I'm checking out.
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