2013 NFL Season

manofmystery wrote: I don't actually think he's getting worse because I don't think he was ever a good coach in the first place. I am sick of the age bullsh*t though. I want names. The Steelers had never been a team that had any problem dumping players that they thought were past their prime in the past. Could it be that they've held onto a few guys past their prime because this regime hasn't been able to evaluate talent or draft serviceable replacements for their aging players. The only two players I can think of that Tomlin's wanted to cut are Max Starks and Jonathan Dwyer. Seems like he cut Starks every year since he took the job for god knows why because they always ended up signing him back and having him end up as their best lineman. Dwyer because he took himself out too much or didn't stay in shape (?) despite his being the best running back on the team last year and this preseason. They resigned him and he's looked pretty good when they let him in (which they rarely do because Tomlin must think Felix Jones is a better option ). Tomlin was a defensive coach that's missed on defensive draft pick after defensive draft pick and thinks William Gay can play in the NFL despite constant visual evidence to the contrary. If he's involved in talent evaluation he should be fired, if he's involved in team preparation he should be fired, if he's involved in in-game decision making he should be fired, and if he isn't he should be fired.

Names? Read off most of your defense. Troy, Taylor, Gay Clark, Timmons. They can't dump these players because they no longer have anyone to dump them for as the result of some poor drafts/player development.

OC wasn't his choice. Haley was brought in to an impossible situation by Art Rooney. The QB wanted to stick in his rut with his crappy buddy Arians and Tomlin, having no control of his QB or desire to ruffle feathers by making the decision that needed to be made, was simply left out of it. I don't believe for a second Tomlin was in any way involved in the hire, despite what ownership claims, so basically what you had with Haley was an coached doomed by a QB that didn't want to work with him and a head coach that resents him being there. The issue is much deeper than Haley. They need to fully clean house.

Edited by JJLehto - November 04 2013 at 09:07

I doubt Pittsburgh will let a coach rack up too many losing seasons. Bring Cowher back.

Padraic wrote: JJLehto wrote: Besides, Pitt holds on to their coaches for life. I actually respect the hell out of that, but yeah you really can't be surprised he's still around, he's gunna be for 15 or more years. Not if they keep missing the playoffs.

JJLehto wrote:   If they are 10-6+ next year and in the playoffs of course all this never happened and Tomlin is a ok

Padraic wrote: Was really pulling for Houston last night, they showed a lot of heart. On the local front, I think the QB "controversy" is pretty well put to bed now.

Agreed on both fronts. The QB controversy in Houston is probably settled after last night too.

Foles haters are still going to be out strong though. Vick has a hell of a blind following for a qb who really only played 8-10 good games in this city.

So Richie Incognito is anything but.
History of trouble in in St Louis and turns out he's a bit of a racist f**ker. The media started by talking about "hazing" and "pranks" and at first I thought Martin was being a bit of a wuss, but some of these things said to Martin...yikes! Even if in some way he's trying to be funny, got a twisted way of doing it and it seems to be personal. What a mess.

Shame is he was a pretty decent lineman


IDK MoM. It's a bad year, that really seems like it. All is fine (except for you) when the team is winning. They gotta rebuild a bit, it may be a QB driven league but they can't be superheroes. And the old school ground n pound may be dead but you do have to be able to run at least somewhat, which they can't. The best teams even today can do it at least a bit and this week there's been some good running displays. Besides all I hear about is how the team is dependent on Big Ben and he keeps taking too much of a beating. So are they too reliant on Ben or "old school running"??? I just cant help but feel if they got the O line fixed, both problems would get better.
All will be fine in yinzer nation, even if there's a few years of struggle. I know this is unacceptable but well, accept it.

WOW, battle of the backups. Wonder how long Rodgers will be out.

Well I don't want injury, but if Rodgers was still out when the Giants get to him well it would certainly be advantageous.

Lacy is a beast. Teams were really over-devaluing RBs in this years drafts and GB and Cincy got real steals with their rookies.

Reports saying 3 weeks for Rodgers and others saying his season is done. I hope he's back soon. I hate to see a great player be injured. I'd sit him for precaution against the Eagles and have him roaring and ready to go the week after against the Giants.