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TFTO should register more than 3.88 stars...IT IS an essential addition to a SYMPHONIC prog collection - that is immutable fact. Yes were the first of the prog giants to progress the genre into where it should be - Long, complicated SYMPHONIC movements....I love it - and as far as I'm concerned - TOO Short !!!
I am still waiting for the FOUR CD (320 minute) symphonic opus to complete the journey that yes started in 1973 - which band would be capable of such? well that is open to great debate, so with TFTO as the basis for the discussion, let battle commence!!!
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:


I am still waiting for the FOUR CD (320 minute) symphonic opus to complete the journey that yes started in 1973 - which band would be capable of such? well that is open to great debate, so with TFTO as the basis for the discussion, let battle commence!!!

I think that's Neal Morse's next project in line. Too bad he, as much as I appreciate him, is no classic Yes.

I love TFTO and there's no doubt that it's essential in any prog collection.
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Points: 3136 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2014 at 12:12
Nope, he's too predictable to produce the differential to keep the mega-epic interesting - Take a BOW - Steven Wilson.....
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Not another TFTO thread. Ermm
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Four album sides of noise.  Bill Bruford got out while the getting was good.
By that logic CTTE is also noise.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - February 18 2014 at 12:16
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All music is noise or you wouldn't hear it! Not a valid opinion me thinks!
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The one thing that can be said about the album is that it certainly feels like navigating on topographic oceans... 
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2014 at 13:28
The revealing science of god is among the best they ever produced, imo. The rest of the album is a bit of a let down after the frst part.
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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I don't mind over-the-top or excessiveness in prog, so maybe that's another reason I love this album. It's not my favorite Yes album, but it's in my top 3, and I do enjoy it more than Relayer.
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Points: 3069 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2014 at 13:38
I appreciate parts of it, but I can seldom sit through it in one listen and there are parts on it, that I find pretty damn annoying. Still I wouldn´t consider my prog Collection complete without it
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I love it! Not my favourite Yes album, but in my Top 5 for sure! 
There are some of my favourite Chris Squire moments in this album.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

It's an awful lot less terrible than Close To The Edge
 
Here on Prog Archives:
 
CTTE -2930 votes.. 4.65 stars
Relayer- 1935 votes.. 4.35 stars
Fragile- 2215 votes...4.42
Yes Album- 1781 votes ..4.28
TFTO-1571 votes.. 3.88 stars
 
'Nuff said..?
 


If you actually believe that the majority of any group of people will have good taste, I guess it explains a lot about what you like to listen to.

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:


I am still waiting for the FOUR CD (320 minute) symphonic opus to complete the journey that yes started in 1973 - which band would be capable of such? well that is open to great debate, so with TFTO as the basis for the discussion, let battle commence!!!

I think that's Neal Morse's next project in line.


Too bad that would be completely unlistenable, an hour of Neal Morse is more than most people can handle
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Not another TFTO thread. Ermm
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Four album sides of noise.  Bill Bruford got out while the getting was good.
By that logic CTTE is also noise.
Sorry not following the logic (or lack of) for your comment.  Apparently not many others are either.  When queried for the BEST progressive album ever CTTE is usually found in one of the top three or four spots.  Where as TFTO is rarely even mentioned until much further down the list.
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Not another TFTO thread. Ermm
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Four album sides of noise.  Bill Bruford got out while the getting was good.
By that logic CTTE is also noise.

(1) Sorry not following the logic (or lack of) for your comment. (2) Apparently not many others are either.  When queried for the BEST progressive album ever CTTE is usually found in one of the top three or four spots.  Where as TFTO is rarely even mentioned until much further down the list.
1) TFTO is quite similar in its nature to CTTE, except it's longer ... with longer tracks. But the Mellotron, the superb bass guitar work, reprises - it's all there. What noise are we talking here? ... Makes sense now?

2) Who are the others?
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Not another TFTO thread. Ermm
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Four album sides of noise.  Bill Bruford got out while the getting was good.
By that logic CTTE is also noise.

(1) Sorry not following the logic (or lack of) for your comment. (2) Apparently not many others are either.  When queried for the BEST progressive album ever CTTE is usually found in one of the top three or four spots.  Where as TFTO is rarely even mentioned until much further down the list.
1) TFTO is quite similar in its nature to CTTE, except it's longer ... with longer tracks. But the Mellotron, the superb bass guitar work, reprises - it's all there. What noise are we talking here? ... Makes sense now?

2) Who are the others?
Well here are the results from a currently running poll:
 
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

It's an awful lot less terrible than Close To The Edge
 
Here on Prog Archives:
 
CTTE -2930 votes.. 4.65 stars
Relayer- 1935 votes.. 4.35 stars
Fragile- 2215 votes...4.42
Yes Album- 1781 votes ..4.28
TFTO-1571 votes.. 3.88 stars
 
'Nuff said..?
 
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Yeah ... might makes right, and we go back to the commercialization of tastes and ideas! And you will also incarcerate the next Jesus that comes up, because he is WRONG!
 
It becomes a case of bad loser and a case of I'm hipper if I vote for the number one.
 
CTTE is very nice, no doubt about it, and I took many a hit of acid and listened to it (along with Atom Heart Mother!) and enjoyed it tremendously, but it does not compare with TFTO, which is far superior musically, although it has taken Rick Wakeman 30 years to stop saying stupid things about it.
 
I don't think that I have heard Bill Bruford say bad things about it. Specially when he went on to do so much more of the same experimental and off the charts material with King Crimson and on his own. If anything, he did not think, originally, that the music piece would stand up, and in the end, IT DID! But Bill is not one for looking back and feel sorry for himself ... he has had a magnificent career in a place where 99 out of a 100 folks fail, and he knows it. And is thankful for it.
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Points: 2673 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2014 at 09:42
Tales from Topographic Oceans is to the prog community what Close to the Edge is to the rest of the world. Just a bit misunderstood. Embarrassed
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Edited by dr wu23 - February 19 2014 at 09:55
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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2014 at 09:50
I agree with Rick Wakeman:

They had 45 - 50 great minutes, but Jon was obsessed with a double conceptual album and added a lot of filler.

They ruined it when decided to go for a double album.

Seems to last for ever.

An average 2.5 IMO.

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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

It's an awful lot less terrible than Close To The Edge
 
Here on Prog Archives:
 
CTTE -2930 votes.. 4.65 stars
Relayer- 1935 votes.. 4.35 stars
Fragile- 2215 votes...4.42
Yes Album- 1781 votes ..4.28
TFTO-1571 votes.. 3.88 stars
 
'Nuff said..?
 


If you actually believe that the majority of any group of people will have good taste, I guess it explains a lot about what you like to listen to.

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Please...that's nonsense and the kind of response one would expect from someone who indeed has no idea about those who contribute here on all ratings  about prog rock.....not to mention the fact I had my copy of TFTO 20 years before you were even born.Ermm
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