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moshkito
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 13:54 |
Man With Hat wrote:
I've always been corrupted by all the forces of evil. |
Evil/Good ... Lightness/Darkness ... are the same thing. And too many times we corrupt ourselves with ideas ... and ignore the reality! And there have been times, when the forces of good were evil, btw! Or vice versa, I'm sure! This reminds me of that thread about "dark" music ... and the folks in there could not even define "dark", and some of the music was plasticene, cardboard and halloween costume stuff ... to think of most of that stuff as "evil", probably meant that you were the greatest Harry Potter fan! But I doubt that these folks have the stomach to listen to An Electrical Storm in Hell, anyway!
Edited by moshkito - October 23 2012 at 13:58
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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presdoug
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 14:14 |
I have said that i haven't been corrupted by PA, and why i haven't, but i am all too human, and would not say that being corrupted by something is completely not a possibility. I could be somehow in the future, who am i to say for absolute certain? Isn't it great with music, though, that we can do our own thing, and listen to just what we want. But i am speaking as an appreciator only, i am not a musician, or part of the music business and relying on that business for my bread and butter. At least it isn't like Nazi Germany, where some music could not be played, like Jewish composers or modern music composers that the Nazis deemed "decadent"-it was against the law to even own a Mahler record-what a bunch of nonsense that was, and gladly for future generations, the Nazis were defeated.
Edited by presdoug - October 23 2012 at 14:18
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NotAProghead
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 15:19 |
presdoug wrote:
At least it isn't like Nazi Germany, where some music could not be played, like Jewish composers or modern music composers that the Nazis deemed "decadent"-it was against the law to even own a Mahler record-....
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Or like in Israel now, where Wagner's music could not be played.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 15:28 |
NotAProghead wrote:
presdoug wrote:
At least it isn't like Nazi Germany, where some music could not be played, like Jewish composers or modern music composers that the Nazis deemed "decadent"-it was against the law to even own a Mahler record-....
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Or like in Israel now, where Wagner's music could not be played. |
Wagner can be played in Israel and bought. I have bought bWagner Cds there myself.
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Sagichim
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 15:36 |
NotAProghead wrote:
presdoug wrote:
At least it isn't like Nazi Germany, where some music could not be played, like Jewish composers or modern music composers that the Nazis deemed "decadent"-it was against the law to even own a Mahler record-....
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Or like in Israel now, where Wagner's music could not be played. |
Either you were joking or this is the dumbest post I ever seen here.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 16:10 |
^ Sorry, guys, I had old news. No jokes at all (call me dumb or whatever). I've searched through the web now (though I had to do it before posting) - you're right, the ban was unofficial, but no smoke without fire, the problem had place.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Sagichim
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 16:28 |
I don't what you read or who posted it. There is no boycoting on germany in any way especially not on music,on the contrary germany is highly regarded, it's important for you to realize that. And on a personal level may I just add, my brother has a PHD in music (which means classical music) he has been living in the USA for the past 20 years now, I'm sure he's nuts about Wagner and the rest of the gang.
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CPicard
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Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Là, sui monti.
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 16:30 |
moshkito wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Fixed.
Moshkito, you're drunk, go home.
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Damn ... you been smoking them bombers! Cheeck is not gonna like you! Funny thing ... I don't drink ... harshest drink I have? English Breakfast Tea and some crumpets! Told you the PA couldn't corrupt me! Check that ... Dean probably could and we would have a great laugh over it! |
We all know that "English Breakfast Tea" is an euphemism for the stuff tourists usually bring back from Amsterdam's coffees. Except it's produced in some suburbs of Manchester. Oh, and about tour special relationship with Dean: go get a room, you two. There are youngsters who shouldn't be exposed to your male reenactement of "Fifty Shades of Grey". Tsss, tsss.
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Dean
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 17:05 |
CPicard wrote:
moshkito wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Fixed.
Moshkito, you're drunk, go home.
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Damn ... you been smoking them bombers! Cheeck is not gonna like you!
Funny thing ... I don't drink ... harshest drink I have? English Breakfast Tea and some crumpets!
Told you the PA couldn't corrupt me!
Check that ... Dean probably could and we would have a great laugh over it! |
We all know that "English Breakfast Tea" is an euphemism for the stuff tourists usually bring back from Amsterdam's coffees. Except it's produced in some suburbs of Manchester.
Oh, and about tour special relationship with Dean: go get a room, you two. There are youngsters who shouldn't be exposed to your male reenactement of "Fifty Shades of Grey". Tsss, tsss.
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Don't drag me into this web of iniquities. Whatever fantasies exist in your head are best left there.
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What?
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presdoug
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Joined: January 24 2010
Location: Canada
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 18:59 |
sagichim wrote:
I don't what you read or who posted it. There is no boycoting on germany in any way especially not on music,on the contrary germany is highly regarded, it's important for you to realize that. And on a personal level may I just add, my brother has a PHD in music (which means classical music) he has been living in the USA for the past 20 years now, I'm sure he's nuts about Wagner and the rest of the gang.
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There is a long tradition of devotion to Wagner, and Bruckner, linked with Jewish musicians and conductors, going back to Wagner and Bruckner's own lifetime, even though some think of those composers in the same breath as the Nazis. Some even believe that Wagner himself was part Jewish. I have heard it said that Germany was actually the best place for Jews in Europe before the horrors of Nazism appeared. There were a lot of German Jews in German society, including the arts like music.
Edited by presdoug - October 23 2012 at 19:01
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CPicard
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Posted: October 24 2012 at 16:08 |
Dean wrote:
[Don't drag me into this web of iniquities. Whatever fantasies exist in your head are best left there. |
So, it means that I can't write Foe-Hay Fanfictions about PA members? Too bad, I had terrible/terrific ideas for some shippings.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: October 25 2012 at 00:21 |
NIce place to visit but you would not want to live here.
Best thing about PA is discovering more prog and then discussing it.
Then you leave and get on with your life.
Pretty simple really.
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