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Poll Question: who is your favourite band
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 11:39
Van der Graaf Generator stomps on the weak. 
Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 11:40
it is even
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 11:53
FLOYD for me but both are legendary.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 11:53

VdGG, easily.  As much as I love the Floyd, it's just no contest.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 12:04
While I can admire and respect VDGG, their music does very little for me.  The Floyd it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 12:08
Both Great.

But since GODBLUFF was the 2nd or 3rd prog album i heard (extra info. the 1st was bursting out, and 2nd/3rd was either this one or GG's Octopus) it has to me a higher meaning, so VDGG gets it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 12:26
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Floyd by miles.
 
VDGG aren't really that highly rated anywhere but on this particular site, but Floyd are absolute legends in the world of prog.


You keep telling us that, but repeating a false statement doesn’t make it true.

What do these polls measure anyway? The preferences of the PA members who happen to be active at the time of the poll. That shouldn’t be so hard to deal with, even if you and your friends disagree with the result.

That much said, I’m pretty sure PF will win this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 12:28
Very hard to decide...............Floyd is.....well.....Floyd, great and fabulous, but VDGG is really something specially different......different state of mind and feelings.....simply genious..........
percentage is no longer 50:50.....sorry Floyd
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 12:50
Pink Floyd for me, simply because I prefer David Gilmour's vocals over Peter Hammil's. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 12:51
no question for me, VDGG by many miles
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 12:59
I thoroughly enjoy both, but VDGG wins this one pretty easily as they are one of my top three bands.  Floyd falls a little further down the list. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 13:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 14:32
Very tough choice but Floyd. If I want a more challenging listen then VDGG.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 14:45
Easily Van Der Graaf Generator. H To He, Pawn hearts, Godbluff and Still Life are all of immaculate and impeccable quality. Floyd have never reached that level with me except on a few albums - Wish You Were Here and The Wall. Van Der Graaf are one of my favourite bands ever - in my top 5.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 16:07
VDGG
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 18:55
VDGG are a bit more imaginative but Pink Floyd are closer to my heart. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2012 at 19:10
I wouldn't vote even if I could, because I've only heard Still Life by VdGG, but every single studio album by PF, so it would be unfair. But, from what I expect from VdGG, I think they will win. I prefer Still Life over all PF albums except WYWH.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2012 at 03:17
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

VDGG aren't really that highly rated anywhere but on this particular site
 
LOL
 
Well, he hates 'em (which I can respect) but he's just not in touch with modern critical opinion (like, he must never read Mojo, Uncut, The Wire, etc... or be aware of the legion of famous admirers the band have. And he's certainly never gone to any of their recent concerts in sizeable theaters and auditoriums where the band habitually draws very well. Which is fine, but it just trumpets his ignorance when he states something like this). I've addressed this before with Hercules (who actually seems like a nice guy in most of his posts, albeit a little confused) and the old reply will suffice here (this one was in response to his calling VdGG an extremely minor band):
 
VdGG were a 'cult' band in Britain, but they were certainly not "extremely minor" as you say. They definitely weren't "major" but they played to audiences of about 1,200 - 1,500 in the UK. That's at least moderately successful. And they were on the cover of Melody Maker in May '71 as "Britain's Most Fashionable Band." Just being on the cover of MM alone would imply some sort of success level, but being called Britain's Most Fashionable Band was definitely a feather in their cap. But it's true that they could just never get over the hump, and they never had anything close to a 'hit' although many Brits knew "Theme One" because John Peel used it to open and close his show. You and your friends might have hated VdGG and so they were avoided by you and not on your radar, but they still were on the radar of many 'heads'. And as you correctly state, VdGG were very popular on the continent in countries like Belgium, France, Italy, Holland, etc, and even French Canada.
 
I think your intense dislike of them (which you've expressed before on this forum) gets your nose out of joint whenever they do well in a poll. I've seen other VdGG-detractors/haters express this same thing, and even do an almost mocking sort of thing where it's said that this is the only place that VdGG can do well because they have no other fans other than on ProgArchives, which is a joke. Many VdGG admirers aren't into any other prog bands and certainly wouldn't be hanging out on a prog internet forum! I've seen VdGG several times in the UK, since they reformed, in auditoriums/theaters with crowds ranging from 1,200 - 3,000 and of all the VdGG heads I've met, only a minor fraction even knew what ProgArchives or Progressiveears was. Hammill and VdGG are considered the 'hipper' end of prog and get glowing articles in Mojo, Uncut, The Wire, etc... that just ain't going to happen for Gentle Giant, Camel, etc. A lot of their 'hipness' comes from the fact that they were an inspiration to many punk rockers (another fact that drives fans of more conventional prog bonkers), but the fact is that VdGG is far more respected by the hipper-than-thou British music critics than almost any other prog band. Like it or not, that's a major feather in the cap and has helped them to sell a lot of albums (or CD's, I should say!). 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2012 at 03:25
more hipper-then-though should listen to Gentle Giant Tongue, punk with Gentle Giant mix would be awesome

i really like Van der Graaf Generator, i like their dynamic rumblingness and strange dissonance which only they are capable to make, they make cacophony musical
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2012 at 06:46
Floyd on vocals alone.
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