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mr.cub
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 13:46 |
I believe the term was first used to describe a Humble Pie performance...never understood why bands like Black Sabbath,Uriah Heep, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin aren't considered metal because they didn't sound like the groups to come after them. It seems the idea of metal changes from one generation to the next; the fact that something older doesn't sound like the metal today doesn't make it any less metal- these older bands had the same boundary pushing mentality...just my two cents
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topofsm
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Posted: April 29 2009 at 23:46 |
^I suppose the term metal had to have changed, rather than the boundaries being pushed. Cause let's face it, if Led Zeppelin was metal today, we'd have to say that My Chemical Romance, Green Day, and any pop-punk or regular punk band more intense than them as metal. Let's face it, those bands have more distortion, screaming, and more frantic drumming than LZ, Black Sabbath, or Deep Purple.
Though if they were called metal in the 70's, then they certainly were metal in the 70's.
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toolis
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 00:42 |
talking about roots of heavy metal and not real metal bands, right?
so, i'd have to say: Blue Cheer, Atomic Rooster, Grand Funk Railroad, Iron Butterfly, Lead Zeppelin and of course Steppenwolf...
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toolis
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 00:43 |
toolis wrote:
talking about roots of heavy metal and not real metal bands, right?
so, i'd have to say: Blue Cheer, Atomic Rooster, Grand Funk Railroad, Iron Butterfly, Led Zeppelin and of course Steppenwolf... |
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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mr.cub
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Joined: March 06 2009
Location: Lexington, VA
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 15:29 |
topofsm wrote:
^I suppose the term metal had to have changed, rather than the boundaries being pushed. Cause let's face it, if Led Zeppelin was metal today, we'd have to say that My Chemical Romance, Green Day, and any pop-punk or regular punk band more intense than them as metal. Let's face it, those bands have more distortion, screaming, and more frantic drumming than LZ, Black Sabbath, or Deep Purple.
Though if they were called metal in the 70's, then they certainly were metal in the 70's. |
Yeah it is nice that the defintion of metal has changed, but I feel it would be greater service to look at the bands relative to their time period and the music around them to classify them, rather than comparing one band from the 70's to another in the 00's. Because we do know music evolves-thankfully! Sure Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep and Led Zeppelin are all Proto-Metal bands, but I do find Witchcraft and other sludge bands very interesting and a breath of fresh air; their music could easily be mistaken for something taken from the early 70's- and it is no less metal today. I'm not sure...
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