Pain of Salvation: Scarsick

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I also don't like it when bands become overly political ... but statements like "just play the music and shutup" are not ok either. Ever heard of a concept called "Freedom of Speech"?

And about the fingerprints: "which you must do in order to enter of course". Well, I guess the department of homeland security has done its job very well ... when it was created many people of my country compared it to the "Propagandaministerium". If they managed to convince you that fundamental principles of justice (like that someone is innocent until proven guilty) don't apply to foreign visitors, then I guess that Michael Moore had a point after all.

And your last statement ... well, maybe you'd like to live in a society like the one described in "1984" ... where only apolitical music is allowed, everybody's fingerprints are recorded etc. ... I do not.

BTW: I do agree though that PoS are not very good at political or socially critical songs - to me songs like Dea Pecuniae seem quite pretentious ... bland and childish. But if that's what they want to do (be), then I'll accept it - and listen to something else.

<<"Shut up and play the music" belongs to dictatorships.>>

Or for people who wish they'd play the music rather than using it as their own personal soapbox.

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Oh god...horrible song titles...i'm worried it'll be 10 000 days all over again...

but i'm sure POS won't let me down. They never have. *looks down at OHBTCL* oh wait, yes they have

sleeper wrote: Moatilliatta wrote: sleeper wrote: ^That I know, but considering King Of Loss was on TPE 1, I would have expected a song titled Kingdom Of Loss to be on TPE 2 (and when the hell will they be getting round to do that!?)   I don't think they are. I forgot where I read it, but I don't think they plan on writing a part 2. I remember reading the interview on  here with DG and he said that its possible after this album (Scarsick).

Anthony wrote: sleeper wrote: Moatilliatta wrote: sleeper wrote: ^That I know, but considering King Of Loss was on TPE 1, I would have expected a song titled Kingdom Of Loss to be on TPE 2 (and when the hell will they be getting round to do that!?)   I don't think they are. I forgot where I read it, but I don't think they plan on writing a part 2. I remember reading the interview on  here with DG and he said that its possible after this album (Scarsick).   Perhaps they're fooling the fans and "Scarsick" is just a subtitle for TPE2. (or am I now saying something really stupid?)

By the looks of things this is going to have a more political concept to it so I doubt its TPE2 in disuise.

Selkie wrote: erk, Scarsick sounds horrificaly emo. Is Gildenlow going to get an asymmetrical haircut and wear girl-pants?

Yes ... he'll be wearing a flower costume next.

Looks good. The cover kind of bugs me and the song titles are "interesting," but I'm only concerned with good music. I bought my first PoS album a few weeks ago (TPE1) and it certainly is very interesting, but it's still growing on me, not quite up to all the hype it gets. We shall see though!

enteredwinter wrote: With names like Idiocracy and America, my guess is that POS has joined the Bush-hating that a lot of bands, prog and otherwise, put into their lyrics these days (not saying that's a bad thing, I happen to agree with the sentiment generally) Assuming that's the route they've taken, I just hope it isn't as overdone and literal as in the recent Muse album. The lyrics to IQ's Harvest of Souls are a good example of how to do this sort of thing right.

1st thing i noticed- and if it's the case- its going to PISS ME OFF.

^ I know what you mean - of course you're free to dislike them and tell everyone about it.

I just meant that for bands whose members are politically/socially motivated, it would be wrong to just lock politics out of their music. That would seem kind of phony to me - although it could work of course.

We'll see how it turns out when they release the album ... a song called "America" *must* be politically motivated.

i think the main point here is that political lyrics have a significant effect on the art and our likeness to it

in the 60's and 70's, it is my guess(though i could be completely wrong) that this kind of thing was accepted, whereas today it is looked at almost laughingly, because you have people with little to no higher education discussing world issues, its just extremely pretentious, perhaps moreso than any other artistic expression, is to assume you know what is best for over 6 billion people when you yourself have little educational background, and even those that do have little ground to speak.

Most of the time bands go about these things in the incorrect manner, and often I see it as a desire for more power, flack, clout, whatever you will that results from a variety of reasons.