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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:30 |
Because this Walkman system featuring a battery is not polluted by something else. Anyway, it's very basic, but it's enough to hear the monstruous difference between numeric (bad numeric moreover, cause compressed) and a very basic Sony Cassette player, almost a toy.
Of course, i would not compared this Walkman (45€) to a big digital set up!
Edited by oliverstoned - April 22 2006 at 11:34
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 11:32 |
Ok, so you don't want to give me more detail.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 13:04 |
The details are the following: ANY walkman beats ANY mp3 player.
About the tests i've made, i recall about a "Creative", but not the model or something (there's a psychological mechanism which tends to occult bad memories ).
It's like the difference between analog old phone and
mobile or worst: "voice-on-IP" phone sound.
When there's some waiting music through the "IP phone", sound is more distorded than with 1900 wax records...What a progress!!
Another obvious proof of numeric's inferiority...
To come back to your poll, i voted 2, cause it was the only possible answer to this stupid (and not funny) question.
I totally agree with you that you can enjoy music through the worst equipment, like on MP3. Moreover, that's what most people do, so do it. Anyway, to listen to some noise, MP3 is highly sufficient in your case.
Enjoy!
Edited by oliverstoned - April 22 2006 at 13:15
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 13:30 |
Its getting bitchy in here.
DIGITAL RULES!!!!!!!
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goose
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 13:44 |
oliverstoned wrote:
It's like the difference between analog old phone and
mobile or worst: "voice-on-IP" phone sound.
When there's some waiting music through the "IP phone", sound is more distorded than with 1900 wax records...What a progress!!
Another obvious proof of numeric's inferiority...
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Your VOIP actually sounds worse than a standard phoneline?! Something has gone very wrong if it has.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 13:54 |
Yes, does it surprise you?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:12 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Yes, does it surprise you? |
It should, as a mobile phone line is also digital and usually uses much less bandwidth than an internet phone line.
Just confess, oliver - you're not a technician but yet you sometimes try to make technical statements, and sometimes that backfires on you.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:14 |
oliverstoned wrote:
The details are the following: ANY walkman beats ANY mp3 player.
About the tests i've made, i recall about a "Creative", but not the model or something (there's a psychological mechanism which tends to occult bad memories ).
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Do you even know what a bitrate is? Why do you keep avoiding my simple question?
oliverstoned wrote:
Anyway, to listen to some noise, MP3 is highly sufficient in your case. Enjoy! |
Ok, insult my musical taste as much as you like. It only strengthens my position.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:29 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
Yes, does it surprise you? |
It should, as a mobile phone line is also digital and usually uses much less bandwidth than an internet phone line.
Just confess, oliver - you're not a technician but yet you sometimes try to make technical statements, and sometimes that backfires on you. |
Don't try to confuse all!
Both mobile phones and VOIP are both digital and both crap (i suppose that all VOIP are not the same, compression may varies and so quality).
But the fact is that if you compare the one or the other to the old phone, listen to some waiting music calling a company like i do at work, and you'll realize that there's an atrocious saturation. BTW, i'm not alone to notice that, cause some of my (non-audiophiles)work colleagues complains about the bad sound quality, compared to the old classic phone.
"Ok, insult my musical taste as much as you like. It only strengthens my position.Smile."
Keep on insulting and polluting this website devoted to progressive music and not regressive "trash" music for teenagers.
Edited by oliverstoned - April 22 2006 at 14:34
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:33 |
Sure, but telephones are not about audio quality. The algorithms are designed to transmit the frequency range of the human languange most effectively, and to cut out the parts that are not necessary.
I agree that it sounds awful sometimes, but it gets the job done. I would never even think about listening to music through such a connection.
BTW: Needless to say that a 128kbps mp3 file sounds MUCH MUCH better.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:35 |
Oliver, please keep musical tastes out of this. What does Metal have to do with sound quality? I can point you to two excellent bands:
- Opeth
- Porcupine Tree
They still release their music on vinyl. Really heavy ones (speaking of the weight of the discs).
Maybe you can listen to those without prejudice, although I doubt it.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:36 |
"The algorithms are designed to transmit the frequency range of the human languange most effectively, and to cut out the parts that are not necessary.
I agree that it sounds awful sometimes, but it gets the job done. I would never even think about listening to music through such a connection."
MP3 does the same. Tadpol!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:37 |
oliverstoned wrote:
"The algorithms are designed to transmit the frequency range of the human languange most effectively, and to cut out the parts that are not necessary. I agree that it sounds awful sometimes, but it gets the job done. I would never even think about listening to music through such a connection."
MP3 does the same. Tadpol! |
Wrong facts won't help you either.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:39 |
I mean the result is the same. Good night.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:42 |
oliverstoned wrote:
I mean the result is the same. Good night. |
If you really mean that - fine. But then your ears need to be replaced. You could even hear the difference by listening to headphones that are lying a few meters away from you.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 15:41 |
Mike, you are wasting your time.
Why did he call you a tadpole?
Edited by Snow Dog - April 22 2006 at 15:42
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 15:54 |
It's mine to waste!
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goose
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:29 |
What do you mean by listening to "old" phones as opposed to digital
ones? So far as I'm aware, there isn't a telephone system existing
today that doesn't use PCM. If there were, I'm pretty sure it'd be
horribly complicated.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:30 |
yes - in Germany all telephone communication is routed via ISDN.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 19:21 |
I voted for the second option. I have a cheap hi-fi system but with some (suppriseingly for a fiver) great heaphones.
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