Iron Butterfly? This site is ridiculous

ivan_2068 wrote: Honestly I feel less uncomfortable with Iron Butterfly and Proto Prog (A sub genre acceopted by most sites and Prog' literature) than with bands as ELO and Prog Related. Iron Butterfly was not 100% Prog', but I'm sure it was Proto Prog. Iván

I'm completely in agreement with that.

Ofur wrote: Why do you assume I've never heard anything with Iron Butterfly? Why are you acting like they aren't here solely because of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida? Are you pretending to own all Iron Butterfly albums?

I own all Iron Butterfly albums, my uncle was a hippie and still lives in a farm eating everything he plants plus tofu and feeding animals (Of course he doesn't eat animals).

He gave me the full IB collection on LP for one birthday.

Ahhhhhh....I bought the DVD also.

Iván

BTW: Yes they are Proto Prog.

Ofur wrote: Well this site has now officially become useless. This is no longer "the prog archives", it is now "the all music ever made archives".

If it's useless, what are you still doing here?

I think we'll manage without you.

Ofur wrote: You ignore the other non prog genres and assume I'm bashing this site on just the proto-prog sub genre which I'm not. I'm saying this site is becoming more and more ridiculous with the inclusion of endless bands that have nothing to do with prog.

So i guess 15 has instantly transformed into "endless."  That's funny. I also suppose that you are such an expert on Iron Butterfly that you are credible enough to make that opinion. 

Ofur wrote: Atkingani wrote: Ofur wrote: How convenient of you to ignore the other sub genre definitions that are not prog and all the bands listed in those sub genres and mention just "proto-prog" to arrive at your 1%. Well I thought we were talking about Iron Butterfly (hence the sub genre they are included) not about "other sub genre definitions". This is what you said: "First, if one judge the entire site taking these less than 1% as an example I believe no justice is being made. Imagine someone calling all French people as right-wings or fascists because LePen received 15% of the votes. Is it fair?" You ignore the other non prog genres and assume I'm bashing this site on just the proto-prog sub genre which I'm not. I'm saying this site is becoming more and more ridiculous with the inclusion of endless bands that have nothing to do with prog.

OK, what are exactly the "other non prog genres"? Prog-related? Well, you have there 50-60 bands. Excluding the proto-prog and prog-related bands you have more than 2.200 names.

You may say that for your specific taste some other genres do not comply with your definition of prog and then, all this stuff is simply a matter of personal taste. A Rick Martin fan or a Britney Spears fan will find this site useless because their personal tastes aren't satisfied here, but if you like Symphonic or Folk or Italian you'll find this site useful and able to satisfy your taste.

Better than complaining for the inclusion of A or B maybe ideas about how to deal with prog-related and proto-prog bands should be more relevant for the site.  

"Proto-Prog definition
Rock Bands in existence prior to 1969 that influenced the development of progressive rock. The late 60's was a predominately experimental period for music. These bands were moving in a stream that eventually led to prog. The influence could have come from new sophisticated forms of writing and playing music, recording techniques, new instruments and vocal harmonies to name a few. Some of these bands became progressive rock bands themselves others did not."

Iron Butterfly absolutely fits this definition, based on my (admittedly limited) exposure to them.

Seriously though... if it bugs you that much, you should be able to dazzle the Submissions team with your depth of knowledge about Prog enough to be tapped as a member of the Submissions team.

If that doesn't work out, you can nail your Proverbial "95 Theses" to the Virtual PA Door, and start your own Prog website in defiance.

Such drama!

I wouldn't of guessed iron butterfly prog

but I'm not crying about it

this site is all I have to learn about prog having no friends or familly who like it and never heard it on some 70's fm station because I was born in the 80's and discovered it in my 20's

I find this site very useful and buy a lot of music I would otherwise never heard of and if you find this site useless maybe you don't need it. nobody is making you logon to PA and forcing you to look at anything here but if I'm wrong and you are being forced then their is some kind of a sick person out there using prog to torture people

EVERYBODY LOOK OUT!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Don't worry, you're all young. None of this will matter in a few more years.

s1ipp3ry wrote: Maybe the kids got a point , this site is going to the dogs

You don't have to stay here if you don't want to, you know.

s1ipp3ry wrote: Maybe the kids got a point , this site is going to the dogs

Then let us dogs have it, and go to other more human-like sites with mcuh more class and dignity.