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stonebeard 
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 Posted: January 13 2006 at 23:21 |
Mmmm, not all that much. Sure some not too great, but I think they've gotten better over the years.
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Ty1020
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 23:31 |
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Most of the lyrics to SDOIT (the song) are indeed embarassingly
terrible, but other than that, I really don't have a problem with DT's
lyrics most of the time.
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Pafnutij
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 23:50 |
True, I'd say. Sometimes they're OK, but mostly quite terrible.
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SirPsycho388
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 23:56 |
I personally think Dream Theater writes incredible lyrics. Though some of them may be cheesy at times, what prog band hasn't ever written cheesy lyrics??? They all come across an element of cheese at some point, some ridiculous topics - but thats prog.
Dream Theater definately writes much better lyrics than 99% of most bands today.
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Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can
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Thufir Hawat
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 00:14 |
Sometimes their lyrics can be cheesy, also
James Labrie’s voice can be very annoying
in some parts. The instrumentals make up
for these inconstancies though.
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"I can't see through my eye lids"
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The Miracle
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 03:06 |
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I love 'em... Petrucci is one of my favorite lyricists. It's all a matter of opinion.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 03:57 |
 Pafnutij wrote:
True, I'd say. Sometimes they're OK, but mostly quite terrible.
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Could it be possible that yousimply don't understand the lyrics? Not the words, but the meaning behind them ... it happened before.
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matti meikäläin
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 04:09 |
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totally agree.. they are really poor
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 04:23 |
matti meikäläin wrote:
totally agree.. they are really poor |
example?
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Marwin
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 05:02 |
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I really like their lyrics. And i dont really understand the reasoning
why people say they write bad lyrics. Allmost every band has some
cheesy lyrics in some songs but cheese does not mean its instantly bad.
And the lyrics fit the song. I like it.
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Sir Hogweed
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 06:10 |
They probably spent much more time with their instruments than with their pencils when they were young, so I forgive them for not having the greatest lyrics. But, if James Labrie ever gets shot on stage or something (and we already have a suspect ), they should try to find a singer with better lyrical qualities, or start doing it in Swedish.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 06:18 |
Sir Hogweed wrote:
They probably spent much more time with their instruments than with their pencils when they were young, so I forgive them for not having the greatest lyrics. But, if James Labrie ever gets shot on stage or something (and we already have a suspect), they should try to find a singer with better lyrical qualities, or start doing it in Swedish.
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what does LaBrie have to do with the lyrics?
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Sir Hogweed
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 06:26 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
what does LaBrie have to do with the lyrics?
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Nothing, that's my point . Find a singer who can write really deep conceptual masterpieces, so the rest of the band can concentrate on great music.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 06:49 |
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He's written a few songs... and honestly, I like most of 'em.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 06:50 |
Sir Hogweed wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
what does LaBrie have to do with the lyrics?
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Nothing, that's my point. Find a singer who can write really deep conceptual masterpieces, so the rest of the band can concentrate on great music.
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I think that the ideal situation in a band is when the main songwriter also writes the lyrics. But it's not required.
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Manunkind
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 07:05 |
Some are good, like the 'Learning to Live' and 'Voices', some are bad... the SfaM lyrics and 'Panic Attack', for example. But I don't care, the story told by the music itself is much more complete and often quite different from that told by the lyrics.
And when I'm in the mood for good lyrics, I read poetry books, not CD booklets.
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Space Dimentia
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 07:15 |
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I will agree that some are bad but the majority are outstanding boardering on genies! an example of bad lyrics Through my words on SFAM yet and exmple of good lyrics that baorder on genies is Octavarium in partcular in art III when two verses are built up useing titles from other rock/pro-rock songs! FANTASTIC!
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 08:13 |
You mean this?
Sailing on the seven seize the day tripper diem's ready
Jack the ripper owens wilson phillips and my supper's ready
Lucy in the sky with diamond dave's not here I come to save the
Day for nightmare cinema show me the way to get back home again
Running forward
Falling back
Spinning round and round
Looking outward
Reaching in
Scream without a sound
Leaning over
Crawling up
Stumbling all around
Losing my place
Only to find I've come full circle
Flying off the handle with careful with
That axe eugene gene the dance machine
Messiah light my fire gabba gabba
Hey hey my my generation's home again
Running forward
Falling back
Spinning round and round
Looking outward
Reaching in
Scream without a sound
Leaning over
Crawling up
Stumbling all around
Losing my place
Only to find I've come full circle
...Appalling!!! 
Derived, contrived and weak, IMO - any idea of a running theme is loose, to say the least.
Barclay James Harvest did it better - twice!
Titles: (Time Honoured Ghosts)
The long and winding road that leads to your door
Here comes the sun it's alright people shout for more
But were you trying to deceive telling me
All you need is love to succeed
Across the universe one after nine 'o' nine
I got a feeling for you blue and I feel fine
I tried so hard to make believe that I'd see
All you need is love to succeed
CHORUS:
Lady Madonna let it be
Something in the way you moved me yesterday
All you need is love so they say
Just as contrived, but it flows - and it was an original idea.
Classics: A Tale of Two Sixties (XII)
I'm hitting the road to heading nowhere
Got no place to go
I'm stuck inside my generation
Round and round I go
I'm sick of the sound of Rolling Thunder
Times they were a-changing
And rock 'n' roll died with Easy Rider
Tearing up my traces
David Bowie was Hunky Dory
Aladdin quite insane
Give me the sound of Arthur Lee with
Forever Changes, I'll remember
Andmoreagain, don't leave me ever
Buddy Holly say "Baby, please be mine"
All the time
I'm cutting out now before the New Wave
Takes my surf board flair
Remember the time when Zappa said
"Punk, where you going with that flower in your hair?"
There's so many who's whos Rolling Stones
Rod Stewarts and Small Faces
And Tommy's the king of the pinball flings
That chased my generation
David Bowie was Hunky Dory
Aladdin quite insane
Give me the sound of Arthur Lee with
Forever Changes, I'll remember
Andmoreagain, don't leave me ever
Buddy Holly say "Baby, please be mine"
All the time
Far less contrived - paints a picture of a bygone era very nicely, whilst cleverly putting a spin on the lyrics so that they put it into a kind of perspective.
From what I've read, Dream Theater's lyrics are, indeed, awful on the whole - and there's some proof above.
I remain open to suggestions of anything they've done that is regarded as "good". 
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 08:19 |
Certif1ed wrote:
From what I've read, Dream Theater's lyrics are, indeed, awful on the whole - and there's some proof above.
I remain open to suggestions of anything they've done that is regarded as "good".
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"proof" ...
I won't bother to give suggestions ... there must be a dozen threads about the subject, for those who are interested.
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 08:36 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
From what I've read, Dream Theater's lyrics are, indeed, awful on the whole - and there's some proof above.
I remain open to suggestions of anything they've done that is regarded as "good".
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"proof" ...
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Indeed.
It's obvious to anyone that has a clue.
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DT have embarrassingly terrible lyrics?
