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Joren
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Posted: December 15 2005 at 10:35 | |
I didn't know about that! |
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Winter Wine
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 10:44 | |
I hope to find some soon
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 10:47 | |
will be out either this month or in January |
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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Suki
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 21 2005 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 134 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 13:16 | |
Start with H to he .... It's their most accessable album. I, for instance, am still trying to 'get into' them. Trust me, you cannot like 'Killer' and 'The House with no Door'. Killer's lyrics is quite addicting too, I cannot help but to remember how I started singing it the same way Hammil does while doing a test at school.. lol... 'So you live... In the... Buttom of sea...' quite nice..
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 13:40 | |
Thanks BandJean for the update on the RFH concert CD. I heard it
was coming out this month, but I've not even seen a mention of it
anywhere..., let's hope it doesn't get like Pulse and just keep getting
delayed.
It doesn't erk me too much mind, as I have the concert on bootleg, but I do want it officially. Besides, my stereo will not play FLAC recordings. Let's hope it's hear by January, it's on the top of my wants list. BaldJean, do yiou have any idea if it'll be a single CD or more? The whole concert, with no breaks won't fit it on 1 CD and I am really hoping they don't cut too much. Maybe if they make it a two cd album, they can fit other material on it as well? Some news on this would be much appreciated. |
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horza
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 13:43 | |
Maidenrulez got there before me with Pawn Hearts |
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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Bj-1
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Online Points: 31541 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 14:13 | |
Pawn Hearts or H to He, then get Godbluff. The rest is up to you.
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Eetu Pellonpaa
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 17 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 4828 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 15:12 | |
I like their "Godbluff" album most. Maybe most accesible album from them, not much of cacophony or very avantagarde solutions in it. By the way, I think asking recommendations for VdGG is a very popular subject for a thread on this site! Not critisising about it, but just pointing out an obesrvation. |
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matti meikäläin
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 10 2005 Status: Offline Points: 220 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 15:35 | |
start with h to he, godbluff or pawn hearts. first album
aerosol grey.. is maybe their weakest. also dont start with present,
it's a good album but not as good as the early works
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Under
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 389 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 16:37 | |
Godbluff blew me away. Great album. H to He is great as well. Pawn Hearts is sometimes a bit too much for me, or am I getting old... |
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Winter Wine
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 18:16 | |
'Senior Member'?? Does that mean 'Senior Citizen'?? Edited by Winter Wine |
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Pylo
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 03 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 165 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 18:31 | |
Maida Vale (The BBC Radio One Sessions) is a good choice to start
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Winter Wine
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 18:36 | |
Thank you Edited by Winter Wine |
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Pylo
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 03 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 165 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 18:44 | |
So go for :
because it's harder to get into "Pawn hearts" |
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 18:47 | |
5 stars for "Vital". one of the best live albums of all time. anyone who doesn't like it has not really listened to it. Nic Potter's bass is a monster, and the album really rocks. the sound quality is not the best, but the music is absolutely fantastic |
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 18:52 | |
as far ais I know, it will be a double CD with all 14 songs. probably like this: CD 1: Undercover Man CD 2: |
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 20:19 | |
Thanks BaldJean, that looks like a great solution... let me do the maths:
CD 1 Undercover Man (8:28) Scorched Earth (10:07) Refugees (6:01) Every Bloody Emperor (7:36) Lemmings (13:23) (In The) Black Room (11:14) Nutter Alert (6:10) 62:19 CD 2 Darkness (11/11) (7:28) Masks (7:00) Childlike Faith In Childhood's End (12:34) The Sleepwalkers (10:44) Man-Erg (14:23) Killer (9:20) Wondering (8:03) 68:52 Yes, that would certainly work. These are rough estimates on timings mind, I am sure tracks will segue at different times, due to crowd clapping and cheering, on the official release. So no room for any odd tracks from other performances, which is actually good actually, it keeps the RFH gig as a whole. Now waits patiently... taps fingers... |
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SirPsycho388
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 09 2005 Status: Offline Points: 697 |
Posted: December 15 2005 at 21:10 | |
I'm trying to do the same thing, so I've decided to start with "The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Eachother" because it seems like its their first prog effort, and then with each album that follows it, you will hear them improve and get proggier. It'll also be cool to see their progress. If you just start with their most famous prog effort, i think its Pawn Hearts, then you'll think the earlier ones suck. I did this for Genesis, starting with Trespass and going in order from there. I would have never liked Trespass or Nursery Cryme as much if i started right away with Foxtrot or Selling England. Just my approach. |
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Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can
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SlipperFink
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 230 |
Posted: December 16 2005 at 21:30 | |
Good advice PsychoKiller. When listening to Prog bands, it's nice to see a cronological "Progression". The "core ID" of the band is usually established in the early records, and it often a blast to "Take the journey" with the group thru the years. Happy Holidays everybody! SM. |
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M. B. Zapelini
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 21 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 773 |
Posted: December 17 2005 at 05:16 | |
If you have enough money, buy "The Box" instead of the original albums. And if you want "live" VdGG, "Maida Vale" is a must. "Vital" is very good, but "Maida Vale" has more classics. |
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