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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Staying on the subject of Reggae and somewhat ironically, I'm a big fan of Christian Reggae band Christafari, so I'd like to wish them a holy Hosanna, even though I'm about as religious as arch-atheist Richard Dawkins who, after suffering a stroke recently, received a prayer and a blessing from the Archbishop of Canterbury himself, which is somewhat ironic too. Smile


Would you label this reggae prog, Caribbean,  or something else? 






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Progressive Electronic for me. The majority of the music in this genre is either repetitive ambient looped arpeggios or weird sound design garbage. Boring stuff (YMMV).
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Personally, I hate the overwhelming presence of those prog-metal subgenres like tech-, extreme-, post- and experimental-metal of which the progressiveness to my ears is generally accessory instead of a constitutive element of the music. If tempo changes suffice to consider something prog, that seems to me a bit week... Keep them at the neighbours where their presence is much more pertinent.

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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Personally, I hate the overwhelming presence of those prog-metal subgenres like tech-, extreme-, post- and experimental-metal of which the progressiveness to my ears is generally accessory instead of a constitutive element of the music. If tempo changes suffice to consider something prog, that seems to me a bit week... Keep them at the neighbours where their presence is much more pertinent.


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Why should I care what anyone else loves or hates?
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I’m with those who have no time to hate any music
If I don’t connect with it I move on

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^ Oh, come on, you can do better than that. Tongue Wink
I hoped to provoke some reactions - and especially arguments - to defend those genres as prog genres. You must have some of those (arguments)!


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

 
If I don’t connect with it I move on

true! Smile
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Within Prog circles, I feel like Djent def comes to mind
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Within Prog circles, I feel like Djent def comes to mind

not all djent is progressive. 
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That's true, I guess I would say prog metal just based on the fact that many people will be filtered out immediately by harsh vocals. But I would say widely, you could probably convince your average joe on a Ghost Reveries era Opeth song long before you could with a Henry Cow type of band
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Within Prog circles, I feel like Djent def comes to mind

not all djent is progressive. 

True. Djent is technically under the prog metal umbrella, but many metalcore and deathcore bands have co-opted elements of the sound as well. Veil of Maya, Carnifex, Within the Ruins, etc.


Edited by Necrotica - July 14 2023 at 13:11
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I fail to see how one can hate a genre. I don't particularly like Reggae, that's about as far as it goes. 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Avant Prog/RIO - although I don't mind Brazilian Prog.
Tech/Extreme Metal - fetch me the ear defenders.
Zeuhl - I can barely even spell it, never mind listen to it.
Those 3 are high on my list of genres I prefer to avoid.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2023 at 17:51
In prog, I'd say neo-prog and progmetal, but I'd add Math Rock in there as well.

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Well they got Glam Rock horribly wrong, they're referencing 80's Hair Metal rather than the 70's bands.
Yep, embarrassing. I think he actually means Hair Metal and not Glam Rock.


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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ Oh, come on, you can do better than that. Tongue Wink
I hoped to provoke some reactions - and especially arguments - to defend those genres as prog genres. You must have some of those (arguments)!



The time i could spend arguing with you is time i could spend listening to some nasty ugly extreme experimental metal that would make 99% of even metalheads cringe. haha

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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Any prog-metal that has growling vocals doesn't get my favor, at all.

I agree.  I can tolerate most anything else but that.  Ugh.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Well they got Glam Rock horribly wrong, they're referencing 80's Hair Metal rather than the 70's bands.


That's the truth!!  I learned a few things from that article, but most of it was pretty bad. 

From ChatGPT:

Glam rock, also known as glitter rock, is a music genre that emerged in the early 1970s, primarily in the United Kingdom. It was characterized by a unique blend of music, fashion, and theatricality. Glam rock artists aimed to create a flamboyant and extravagant image, often incorporating elements of glamor, androgyny, and rebellion.

Musically, glam rock drew inspiration from various genres such as rock and roll, pop, and rhythm and blues. It featured catchy melodies, energetic guitar riffs, and a strong emphasis on showmanship. The sound of glam rock often included prominent use of electric guitars, driving rhythms, and theatrical vocals.

Glam rock artists often wore elaborate and androgynous costumes, with glittery or sequined outfits, makeup, and hairstyles. They challenged traditional gender norms and pushed boundaries with their androgynous appearance. Some notable glam rock artists include David Bowie, T. Rex, Roxy Music, Slade, Sweet, and Queen.

The glam rock movement had a significant impact on popular culture, influencing subsequent musical genres such as punk rock, new wave, and glam metal. It was a celebration of individuality, self-expression, and rebellion, and its influence can still be seen and heard in modern music and fashion.

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I fail to see how one can hate a genre. I don't particularly like Reggae, that's about as far as it goes. 
I think very few walks around actively hating on music genres. But I can most certainly respond/react to music both disgust and yes something that resembles hate. There's a difference between hating Nazis and "hating pineapple on your pizza" though. Just like loving your children and loving the smell of coffee represent different kinds of loving. 


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I assume the OP is asking us about what we think is/are the most disliked prog sub-genre(s) in general, not which one any of us particularly doesn't like.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

I assume the OP is asking us about what we think is/are the most disliked prog sub-genre(s) in general, not which one any of us particularly doesn't like.

I think the generally most hated prog subgenre is..... progressive rock. xD People who hate prog in one form or another don't even bother to subcategorize it. :D
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Krautrock

It's name actually suggests it hates itself anywayWink
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