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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

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You definitely have to listen in the room where you will be playing them, that makes a lot  different experience from the shop/showroom - the speakers sound depend immensely of the space they're in.
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Hi,

And I did this when selecting the ESS HEIL AMT1 speakers in 1976. The other speakers in the room had no "depth" in them to compare. They all sounded great on most rock music, but when it came to classical, or (in this case TD), they lost a lot of the "touch" and "taste" of the music.

NOTE: VERY IMPORTANT IN YOUR CHOICE. You must check out different things in the speakers, since some are more attuned to rock music, than they are other stuff, and vice versa. The most versatile of the speakers will do both beautifully! You must REMEMBER that ... in my case, Tangerine Dream, pretty much "destroyed" big name speakers that were over rated crap!

I think the room specs you suggest helps, although I might think/ask if that would depend on the quality of the speakers ... like you spent 5K on them, and yeah ... I imagine that you will need the room to maximize the benefits ... but in my case, in this apartment, and in a house basement, my speakers have sounded really good and clean, specially after I had them re-coned (2nd time - there is a speaker guy in Portland that does it for many bands) ... and he even suggested to never let go of these speakers because they were excellent all around.

To my ear, the good/great speaker will always sound really fine on most rooms ... it's as if they have the ability to adjust to the room's qualities, and this is something that I have not EVER seen on smaller systems, as the one that Mike is suggesting to spend money on ... I know I went over my head when I bought those speakers (within a year had to get turntable, cartridge and receiver!!!) ... but I have never once felt disappointed with the quality on the system. Even the high level mp3's sound excellent through them, and way better than they do on my headset ... which is a cheapie, btw ... and I hope to remedy that!


Edited by moshkito - July 07 2023 at 04:39
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

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 but in the end your own ears and brains are the best judge!

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I think that is true, however, this would disprove the theory as to why everyone wants to go to concerts. 

In my experience, and the "big" sound was a factor, just like the explosion of images in the late 60's in movies and music that helped bring about "progressive music" ... and the way that the "big sound" came alive was if it was "heard" by your whole body ... not just your ears. And I wonder how much modern listeners are not "getting" when they don't have this or have experienced it. you didn't go to see The Grateful Dead to just "hear" with your ears ... you went to let yourself, and body trip along and enjoy the feeling of it all ... and I wonder how much of that we have lost ... I don't think that "digital" can replace that feeling at all. Not to mention that The Grateful Dead had the greatest and best audio setup of any band EVER. Too many go for the loudness with it, and forget the rest. The GD had both, and could make your skin squeal several times in one night!

It's just a thought ... and in my experience it feels like the "music" only connects with ears, and not anything about the rest of the person ... we used to go to see Nektar, Hawkwind, Neil Young, Steely Dan, Jackson Browne, Tangerine Dream, Man ... just so we could experience the whole body thing ... the music mattered and you flowed with it and danced with it ... and it wasn't just a ear thing at all ... sorry to sound somewhat "old-fashioned" but this is something about the appreciation for music as something much higher and better than just a song for one's ears ... OKOKOK ... let me take my pill again ... but you know what? It feels like the first time you got stoned, or had a psychedelic ... you got to FEEL IT ... not just listen to it. And in the last 35 years I have not needed any of those substances whatsoever.


Edited by moshkito - July 10 2023 at 13:01
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