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Points: 3013 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:52
Wire and The Velvet Underground are amazing.  I went with the VU due to their massive influence on all popular music.

On a sidenote, some people on this forum are way too close minded.  As soon as they hear the word punk they have a knee-jerk reaction and think of all the stereotypes associated with the genre.  Ironically, that's probably how most people view prog.
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by horza horza wrote:

where are the stranglers ?

Indeed! Although they were only really punk in attitude - the music went way beyond punk; for example I'd hardly call "Golden Brown" or "Strange Little Girl" punk, and "Aural Sculptures" was a complete departure.  Even "No More Heroes" wasn't pure punk - the structure and arrangement seems closer to the Doors than the Sex Pistols or the Vibrators.

And calling the Ramones punk seems dubious, to say the least - and The Fall? Joy Division? That's like saying Stiff Little Fingers or XTC were punk 

I almost voted for the Buzzcocks as the epitome of punk, but ended up voting for The Damned. I love their cover of "Alone Again Or", and "Machine Gun Etiquette" is a blinding album. Their output is so incredibly varied that it's hard to consider them purely punk. Phantasmagoria has progressive leanings, and certainly a psychedelic 60s edge with tracks like "Grimly Fiendish".

"Damned, Damned, Damned" is widely reported to be the very first British Punk album. The Vibrators debut was the third (where are they?) and The Sex Pistols were a lowly 3rd.

 

I'd also have included the Slits, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Nena Hagen, the Angelic Upstarts, Crass, Sham 69 and Killing Joke, with consideration given to the Clash and Subhumans (a grossly overlooked band, IMO, along with the later incarnations Culture Shock and Citizen Fish, who wrote some amazing music).

And what about Plastic Bertrand or the Monks?

...and does anyone remember who did the song "Looking through Gary Gilmour's Eyes"?



I agree with most of this I have always thought of The Stranglers as a Doors influenced band I mean La Folie(?sp) isn't too punk either is it.

Did you ever get "The Black Album" by the Dammed as well? Again not very punk.. even has violins on it

Yeah, I was another subhumans fan saw them in a little pub in Putney and they were excelent..

What about Rudimentry Peni, Discharge, Vice Squad, Rubella Ballet, in fact alot of the No Future and Crass label acts... Plus I suppose you could include some Oi bands as well..

o the memories...
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

u always seem to have clever intelligent thoughtful things to say miracle like punks sucks

One of millions of good reasons to hate punk

Part two

and there is much more to it than that...

You know, Miracle, there are also some prog fans who don't like punk.

'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Found out who did "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" - it was the Adverts. Cracking song with manic lyrics about a murderer on Death Row who decides that he's got no use for his eyes any more, so he donates them to science.

http://www.comnet.ca/~rina/adverts.html

 

I never got to see Subhumans, but I saw Culture Shock many times on the underground circuit (disused warehouse gigs in London, impromtu gigs in fields in the middle of nowhere, that sort of thing), and I saw Citizen Fish at "properly organised" gigs.

http://archive.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/2000/citizenfish.h tml

All of Culture Shock's output is sterling stuff - an unutterably perfect blend of ska, punk and Dick's socio-political ramblings that are so mad they're nearly genius. I don't think you can get it on CD though.

http://www.citizenfish.com/

 

 
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Points: 1859 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2005 at 16:09
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

u always seem to have clever intelligent thoughtful things to say miracle like punks sucks

One of millions of good reasons to hate punk

Part two

and there is much more to it than that...

You know, Miracle, there are also some prog fans who don't like punk.



Actually, these texts are VERY funny...
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To me, punk is also great because of the lyrics. In one hand, prog rock ALWAYS had CRAPPY lyrics. But some punk bands really did it well... I won't even say Dead Kennedys, Jello Biafra (the Noam Chomsky of rock and roll) is the best lyricist ever. Instead, one absolutely GREAT song of Flipper, one of the best lyrics I ever had the chance to read. Here it is:

Flipper - Ever


Ever live a life that's real
Full of zest, but no appeal?
Ever had to really cry,
Cry so much you want to die?
Ever feel that you've been had?
Had so much that you turn mad?
Ever been so depressed,
That those you turn to, you bring distress?
Ever sit in tormenting silence,
That turns so loud, you start to scream?
Ever take control of a dream,
And play all the parts, and set all the scenes?
Ever do nothing
And gain nothing from it?
Ever feel stupid,
And then you know you really are?
Ever think you're smart
And find out that you aren't?
Ever play the fool,
And find that you're even worse?
Ever look at a flower
And hate it?
Ever see a couple kissing
And get sickened by it?
Ever wish the human race didn't exist,
And realize you're one too?

Ever isn't just one of the most brilliant lyrics on rock and roll, but above all it's a kind of a frightening universal application autobiographical report, showing what exists of more obscure and mediocre in all of us.
And above all, is punk
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Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:

Punk to my ears is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than Symphonic Prog that's almost funny!


WOW!  

You've disappointed me, my friend.

 

And yes, I agree with The Miracle.

No need to repeat that ol' beloved phrase you're all familiar with...
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Points: 1023 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2005 at 00:53
The Velvet Underground it's pretty good actually.

But, in no way closer to the greatness of prog, for me.
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Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

so what is it im probbably forgeting a few bands but i did the best i could


Bad Brains, Mother's Finest, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Fear , Nip Drivers, Jim Carroll Band, The Crumbsuckers, Hüsker Dü, X, Gun Club , just to name a few, but I voted for Dead Kennedys because (like someone else already pointed out), he was one of the primary voices of that era of culture and music ("he" being Jello Biafra, of course).

BTW, I think punk had one thing in common with prog in that its music represented a conscious attempt to produce something different, heartfelt, and emotional.  Two of the many differences are that

1.  Punk was so infused with destructive behaviour that it largely bought about its own demise through simple attrition (kind of like religious cults that preach celibacy ), and

2.  Punks's best days are behind it because the genre pretty much stopped growing after 1979 or so (IMHO).



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BTW, Devo is considered punk?!  By who?

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Points: 28427 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2005 at 01:45
Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

u always seem to have clever intelligent thoughtful things to say miracle like punks sucks

One of millions of good reasons to hate punk

Part two

and there is much more to it than that...

You know, Miracle, there are also some prog fans who don't like punk.



Actually, these texts are VERY funny...

funny, yeah. And sad so much ignorance in one article
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Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

BTW, Devo is considered punk?!  By who?

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there early stuff is considered to be post punk

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Originally posted by Pr@gmatic Pr@gmatic wrote:

Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:

Punk to my ears is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than Symphonic Prog that's almost funny!


WOW!  

You've disappointed me, my friend.

 



Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you...


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This poll shows I guess the difference between what a Brit considers punk and an American might. To my mind e.g Talking Heads, Velvet Underground are definitely NOT punk. Of the above list the best band for me is either Talking Heads or Television, but the best punk band...and they were OK.... were the Clash. That's not me saying" I like them so put them on the list"...they were considered by many the best of what punk - at least in Britain - was about; angry young men with strong political messages, and some good tumes. Your list really is incomplete without them!!
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Mine's Bad Religion.

Why are proto- and post-punk bands on the list?

And would you really want to include emo (Fugazi, for instance) on a Punk poll?


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The Stooges I love thire "Fun House" album, no doubt one of the best punk albums ever made  
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Minor Threat.

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Its The Clash for me.

Not on the list but Punk credentials, although they also touched on reggae, ska & jazz. They had a talented guitarist who even had long hair (well by punk standards in '77). Saw them in '78 I think and have liked them ever since.
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