Steven Wilson - The Future Bites out today |
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Cristi
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god no...
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King of Loss
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I used to one of those close-minded people until I branched beyond progressive rock and progressive metal. There's lots of good music out there and the newest two Taylor Swift albums are actually pretty good. Aaron from the National co-wrote those songs and he is an excellent songwriter. I used to think Taylor Swift was utter trash and the two newest albums have convinced me otherwise. I think while she is not a fantastic musician, her newest two records are at least decent. Why would Steven Wilson cover her latest song from Folklore?
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Cristi
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I do not listen exclusively to prog (rock and metal) and I listen to all sorts of music, but I will never be able to enjoy some one like Swift. And I tried a little bit. Plus you hear her music without ever wanting to as well.
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King of Loss
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Then try her two newest records if you are truly open-minded. It is way different than anything she has released. Edited by King of Loss - February 01 2021 at 00:59 |
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Cristi
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I don't think that if I dislike Swift makes me close-minded, I don't even like her vocals/voice.
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King of Loss
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That's fine, but to write her off as just utter-sh*te is not fair. There are far sh*ttier pop records out there like the Future Bites.
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Cristi
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I did not say that she's "utter-sh*te" (your words not mine), just that i dislike her. Big difference. |
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King of Loss
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Fair enough, but then why did Steven Wilson cover a song from Taylor Swift's Folklore album?
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Cristi
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Maybe Wilson liked that song. I don't know that cover, will you post a listening link, please?
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King of Loss
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I already did. Look above.
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King of Loss
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Aaron from the National co-wrote all of the songs on the latest two Taylor Swift albums, including that song. He's a great songwriter and knows how to write good memorable poppy songs.
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Cristi
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"meh". |
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King of Loss
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I think the problem with Steven Wilson is that he's not really good at writing pop. He should stick to his strengths.
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King of Loss
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I bet if you do a sort of an experimental, blind hearing test, people will think differently about that song.
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A Crimson Mellotron
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King of Loss
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Those are quite different than the direction he's taken on this record. I don't think many of those songs are as good as his more progressive songs. Not even close. He's not Benny Andersson or Paul McCartney.
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Guldbamsen
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Poor Steven. If he does prog he’s chastised for doing retro-music that he preferably should leave to the classic bands..be unique or go home!
Then when he does something different he’s accused of not being true to his pork roots. He just can’t win. Personally I would like Steve Wilson to do whatever he feels like. If it’s good music I’ll probably end up buying it - regardless of the tag. |
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Kotro
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You say that like it's a good thing.
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Bigger on the inside.
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nick_h_nz
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Nothing wrong with Taylor Swift. And there’s nothing wrong with pop. I interviewed Julia Marcell after her prog-pop album Skull Echo was released last year, and one of the things we talked about was the narrow-minded thought processes a lot of so-called progressive fans have towards pop. It’s like it’s anathema to some people if a band dare go pop - especially if they experience commercial success because of it.
As for SW, he has definitely been doing pop since the beginning. The one song that doesn’t work for me as well as the others on TFB is 12 Things, because it is so similar to songs like Lazarus from his past. |
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progaardvark
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^THIS! There's something to be said about being obscure. When you go in a different direction, your one or two fans get over it in about 5 to 15 minutes and usually you never know that they were upset to begin with.
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