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I've found some of my favourite artists on here that I never would have expected to find on a Prog-Rock website, including:- David Bowie; Kate Bush; Electric Light Orchestra; & Queen, to name just a few. I could go on, so I will:- Black Sabbath; Blue Oyster Cult; Led Zeppelin; Uriah Heep, and many more besides. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2020 at 13:39
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I would say NO, however, LOVE OVER GOLD probably deserves some more attention as its 5 songs are a bit more than what usual radio will play and much more focused as a piece of music, than some of their previous material that was more song designed, than this album ... this album had a certain amount of freedom that the others didn't, and specially the one album after, that was almost exclusively made for the FM radio, that was beginning to lose its strength and ability to give us all new music!

LOG, if we were not so set on our "definition" of the music, would be considered a nice fit, but since the band did not continue beyond just songs, my take is ... NOPE. I'm not sure that David Knopfler was too interested in a whole lot of things other than his songs after the big hit!
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I'll have a Dire Straits Top 7 Songs poll coming up soon, which was inspired by this thread. Wink
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II'm not sure that Love Over Gold is their best album. 

It's more proggy, yes, but, is it the best?

The two things are not correlated.

Maybe Making Movies and Brothers in Arms are better.

I think that side A of Making Movies is their best side A, even better than the side A of Love Over Gold.

The B side of their albums are usually less beatiful than side A.


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I actually like the first two DS albums better than the others. Oh well, I suppose we're all differentSmile.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ You were bored to death by Making Movies? Confused


even the album sleeve is boring as hell Sleepy

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The B side of their albums are usually less beatiful than side A.




Not so with BIAWink
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No , just a terribly overrated band with annoying vocals (like U2 and many other eighties bands) .
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

No , just a terribly overrated band with annoying vocals (like U2 and many other eighties bands) .


Yeah, I could probably go with this....

My dislike of DS may be marginally less than yours. but alongside U2 they do represent an 1980's, I'd rather forget; the 'cool' kids at school, strutting around in Rattle & Hum, or Brothers in Arms tee shirts, like they'd just discovered the guitar. They needed reminding that two years before they were listening to A-Ha and Go West (both of which I'd also rather listen to than U2 & DS )

Dire Straights, U2, INXS et al = Rock music for people who don't like rock music.
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Thanks to all those who have replied - Wikipedia does classify Love over Gold as prog, but, after listening to some of their other stuff, I don't think they really ever went further into the genre. Mark Knopfler is a great guitarist though.
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No for me ! Dire Straits: very good classic rock with some progressive moments (Telegraph Road and some other tracks).
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2020 at 03:07
About as Prog as Elton John - that is ; they dabbled with elements of Prog without fully indulging in the complexities.
Didn’t the last Eagles album feature many longer tracks ??
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

No......but Knopfler is a killer guitarist.

...and Pick Withers the drummer in DS used to be in the prog band 'Spring'.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ You were bored to death by Making Movies? Confused


even the album sleeve is boring as hell Sleepy


 




 
Well, at least we agree about the cover! LOL Tunnel Of Love is their most progressive song and features a melodic and electrifying lead that most guitarists could only dream of playing, but c'est la vie.

Edited by SteveG - July 01 2020 at 05:33
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They just need their own sub-genre, Pub Rock Prog.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

No , just a terribly overrated band with annoying vocals (like U2 and many other eighties bands) .


Yeah, I could probably go with this....

My dislike of DS may be marginally less than yours. but alongside U2 they do represent an 1980's, I'd rather forget; the 'cool' kids at school, strutting around in Rattle & Hum, or Brothers in Arms tee shirts, like they'd just discovered the guitar. They needed reminding that two years before they were listening to A-Ha and Go West (both of which I'd also rather listen to than U2 & DS )

Dire Straights, U2, INXS et al = Rock music for people who don't like rock music.

The Dire Straits music comes from the tradition of English rockblues, to which is added American roots rock, and some prog ambitions. All with velvety and mainstream production. 

U2 has nothing to do with it, they come from the post punk or post new wave scene, and their rock is much more rough and with a nearly seventies sound. The two audiences have little in common. Obviously you may like or not these two groups, but they are among the best of their genre, in that years. 

The music of U2 up to Achtung Baby has neither the sound nor the typical production of the eighties. 

Inxs, on the contrary, are a three-minute single group with an eighties-style pumped sound, they managed to produce good pop-rock-funky singles but as far as albums are concerned, they are two spans under U2 and Dire Straits.


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Great band but not prog. (Maybe a few hints of it on some songs.)
 
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ You were bored to death by Making Movies? Confused

I'm bored to death by pretty much anything I've every heard by them....
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