Steely Dan vs Supertramp

Someone said Supertramp was MORish.....that sums them up....prog lite.

This one is closer, but still Steely Dan takes my vote.

"You can not vote in this poll"

now try voting haha

maybe it is 50 points to vote (paging Greg). give you a few more likies... consider it a mea culpa for the Beatles dig...

the Beatles as you might imagine have been a hot and divisive topic here for years..  usually brought up by kiddies and those who equate overexposed to be overrated.

Bit late as you've already got enough, but thanks given, and one to Micky just for being Micky and as someone to chat with today -- been ages since I spent so much time here.

The Beatles were hugely important and influential to popular music, that is a no-brainer for me.... How hugely inventive and originative the Fab Four themselves were is, I think, open to debate. Because they had access to as much free studio time as they wanted due to their huge success, they had the chance to spend plenty of time and experiment a lot in the studio. I think Emerick deserves considerable credit for both bringing their ideas to fruition, and also suggesting other ideas. He minimizes George Martin's importance in the creative department in the latter part of The Beatles career, but I don't think one can deny Martin's importance to the Beatles's success (and that many innovative ideas ideas came from him). I certainly give credit to the Beatles' band members for seeking to experiment and try new things. They put a lot of time into trying new things in the studio, and even incorporated chance "mistakes". Thy sought to try new things, and did, and adapted techniques already in use (for instead tape loops) which were being used in Musique Concrete. I think they had a very good team to work with, but the Beatles themselves deserve a lot of the credit since the studio technicians/ producers, were being pushed to try new things by them, and the Beatles were creative with ideas "Let's try this, and this, and this". That could be pretty frustrating and time consuming for the technicians/ producer.

I once went to went to a music show, and the presenter went on-and-on about the greatness of he Beatles. I do consider the Beatles to be pioneering in pop-rock, and to have had an enormous impact on music, but it struck me as overly effusive praise. There was no mention of the likes of Stockhausen, Xenakis, Cage, Nono, Schnittke, Berio or Ligeti as other great modern composers/ innovators (it was not a pop-rock concert, but a general music one). Now, I would hardly say that, say, Xenakis, had nearly the effect on music than, say, John Lennon did (not nearly as influential), and of course I'm talking apples and oranges. I wonder if, say, Stockausen, Ligeti, Xenakis, and Cage had joined forces into their own Fab Four, if they could have had the same impact as a group. Very unlikely. The Beatles were popular in a way that those others never could be.


Edited by Logan - July 21 2018 at 22:50

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Ok, I'm going to let you guys decide who Steely Dan goes up against next. ;)

a showdown between 10cc or Roxy Music would be nice

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Ok, I'm going to let you guys decide who Steely Dan goes up against next. ;)

Magma

Supertramp gets the nod.