Covid-19 and the madness of crowds |
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Tapfret
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 09:27 | |||
Speaking of which, Russia is definitely a place that I feel has been less than forthcoming about their covid numbers. No way they have only 250 cases sharing a 2000 mile border with patient zero. |
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micky
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 09:28 | |||
again..I'm a knuckle dragging idiot whose only talents are... I'll get back to you on that once I figure out what those that don't involve having 9 lives and a failure to put myself into an early grave with self abuses ... or other 'talents' that are probably TMI for the forum.
I'm no doctor of course.. but disregarding China and what they report.. we do have hard numbers from outside China and there is a difference between the mortality rates (disregarding Iran for several reasons) between the two countries most affected. That are neither totalitarian as China nor blatently corrupt and politically self serving as ours. One has a much higher rate of mortality and both similar in pertient ways. Very close in smoking rates, high percentage in older populations, modern densely packed soceities with excellent health care. perhaps it isn't a mutation per se but genetic. It is entierely possible that asians are more resistant to this than westerners. Be it diet, genetics.. whatever. For what S.K. has reported.. yes I can see a plausibility of the possibility that there was much less impact on the Chinese people than it might here upon us in the west. anyhow.. the numbers are what they are for a comparitable soceity to ours. Italy and this virus is not a world ender.. but is likely to be a world changer. It isn't the f**king flu. Mortality rate appears to be in the 2-4 percent range which is much much higher than the common bug or influenza.
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micky
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 10:18 | |||
interesting.. and perhaps why we are being warned the new normal for as long as next year is living with this.
we are learning about the bug The virus is much more infectious than influenza or the SARS virus, which it closely resembles. This week, new data showed that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, can live on contaminated surfaces as the SARS virus can, so it may spread, sometimes explosively, from doorknobs, elevator buttons and contaminated surfaces in hospitals and elsewhere. But we also learned that, unlike SARS, patients become highly infectious before they become seriously ill, explaining at least in part why Covid-19 acts like a super-SARS, far more infectious than its vanquished cousin. and on that note.. fresh in the news this morning... looks like we are giving up on trying to contain it..too much economic interests at play to do what needs to be done and shut it down.. but trying to mitagate the numbers that will die from it. Quite simply.. our substandard and for profit health care system is already being overwhemed. We can't even test for it. Which means this will likely be around for months... and months ... which is what the experts feared once it got here. short story summation... we are on our own with this one.. doctors are being advised not to test those experiencing only mild respiratory symptoms unless “a diagnostic result will change clinical management or inform public health response.” The recommendation reflects a "shifting from a strategy of case containment to slowing disease transmission and averting excess morbidity and mortality," according to the statement. |
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Angelo
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 10:31 | |||
I meant the same. It is not flattening... |
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Angelo
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 10:34 | |||
The Alps are 45 minutes from our house by car. For the first time in a year we’ve been able to see them from here every day for a full week. The city of Milan is in between, says a lot. |
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SteveG
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 10:43 | |||
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SteveG
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 10:50 | |||
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SteveG
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 10:54 | |||
All my testing bravado seems for naught as NY and CA are going to scale down testing radically as there is not enough personal protective equipment, like masks and gloves, for the technicians to wear in order to perform the tests. This really is resembling life during wartime and I hope that our national leaders are up to it.
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micky
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 10:56 | |||
hah... I've always seen it the opposite way Steve. PA's may not be a community but a family made of misfits, oddities, freaks of nature, and marvels of modern chemistry that get would get tossed out of communities but are loved and accepted here as only one could could with one's family members.
one chooses a community.. you don't choose a family..
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SteveG
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 10:58 | |||
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micky
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 11:00 | |||
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Catcher10
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 12:02 | |||
I was thinking of this last night we have not heard much from Russia, they have been "quiet". I'm also concerned about southern hemisphere countries as they come out of summer and enter their flu season, Brazil especially.
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Angelo
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 14:34 | |||
The madness of crowds is being handled harder now in Italy, at least in Lombardy. The army is now patrolling the streets of Milan, and violators of the rules (only go out for groceries, medicines or work) is now fined with 5000 euros.
If it helps nobody knows, but the fascist Lega governor believes in fear as a means to contorl the people. |
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 15:06 | |||
^ Except he could get sick too. Hopefully we'll all have some natural immunities a year or two from now, and we''ll just have to live with this strain of flu like we do other viruses. Edited by Atavachron - March 21 2020 at 15:07 |
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micky
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 17:11 | |||
hah..well .. fear is a bit underrrated.. otherwise ignorance and stupidity rules.. sometimes people .. the masses ...might need a kick in the ass and need to be told what it right for them and they have bigger worries than running out of f**king toilet paper A bit of right wing fear mongering and old school kick assing...might serve us better than the current right wing ....spend money at the f**king beach on spring break or at the damn local 'essential' Gamestop and help prop the economy.... kind of control.
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micky
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 17:53 | |||
Bolivia is already under total lockdown,, total quarantine.. it has already spread to the southern atmosphere and summer/winter.. doesn't matter. cases reported all over in hot tropical/equatorer regions.. it isn't a seasonal bug..either showing up.. or disappearing depending the temperature or season.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: March 21 2020 at 22:18 | |||
And then there's this..... |
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Angelo
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Posted: March 22 2020 at 03:00 | |||
Btw, Mickster, does Tal Wilkenfeld know she’s in your avatar? Yes, I know my stuff 😉 |
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micky
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Posted: March 22 2020 at 07:54 | |||
nah... I doubt she does haha.
Besides I'm better known throughout the internet by my avatar and alter-ego pissed off Elmo with a gun... and there goes the neighborhood... reason 1a why this isn't going away quickly. China getting hit again by a new wave of cases...this time by the boomerang effect. People from outside China bringing it back in as they try to return to normal. Poor Italy and places like that.. they will eventually tamp it down.. and likely have it come back as we try to return to the old normal. Is is a 9-11ish event but on global scale.. things... life will really change.
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 22 2020 at 11:09 | |||
I hope you all have good virus protection on your computers....I just sneezed on the screen.
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