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Very close between XTC and Bauhaus, went with XTC.

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Siouxsie and the Banshees.

What?

I love about 90% of these - the last I haven't heard Embarrassed

Impossible to choose just one, but if you put me on the spot, I'll go for Cocteau Twins. Victorialand means the world to me, and it helped me through a rough period of my life where everything seemed to fall to pieces. The beauty of this album, like looking through a turquoise glacier, helped soothe my mind, and it probably kept me in check when the fights in the street got a little too violent and stupid. I realise that last part doesn't make much sense, but I'm referring to a time where a small part of Copenhagen was lit up in flames and riots - all on account of some idiotic political misconception. We, the youngins (well I wasn't that young at the time, but I had been part of the place since I was 13), lost our beloved Ungdomshus (Youth House, club for misfits and the underground people....for lack of a better wording), and the powers that be got to be "in the right".

Victorialand was my antidote.

“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

- Douglas Adams

A cool thing about XTC that just occurred to me is that they managed to be successful (critically and commercially) with off-kilter pop song material that seemed to blend the Beatles (complex, rich song craft) with Captain Beefheart (avantish dissonance). With Skylarking, their approach had changed to a sort of baroque pop, and was equally successful (and is very common nowadays with indie bands). But even that stuff could be kind of dissonant here and there. I went through a phase where I wanted to learn as many of their songs on guitar as I could, and the tabs I found online revealed some really weird chords I'd never attempted before - difficult to play.

As for Bauhaus (my 2nd choice), they really had a wide stylistic range that most people don't know about, what with their "goth" legacy. Heavy rock, dance rock, goth, punk, new wave, and more than a fair bit of humor all run through their work. They had the makings of a truly great band, had they stayed together longer. Love and Rockets was a great substitute for a while, but I'm not sure they ever did anything quite so sublime as, say, "Silent Hedges".

Edited by HolyMoly - March 07 2014 at 15:30

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You've left out The Skids they were my fave. Listen to their 3rd album The Absolute Game it is an absolute masterpiece.

More than a few I like there. XTC is my favorite though. I also love Talking Heads, some of Pere Ubu, Psychedelic Furs, I have one Cocteau Twins album and one where they worked with Harold Buddd, the Public Image Compact Disc, etc. is pretty good.

Edited by Slartibartfast - March 07 2014 at 18:34

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

My favorite is Wire, but they're not up there.

Not sure I understand this forum poll, "has punk died"? I personally believe that punk killed prog in the early 80's tho'

naughty punk! Bah

hugs to all

I think the "post-punk" categorization refers not to coming after punk chronologically, but just to the artists coming from an obvious punk background while at the same time moving their music beyond what can be accurately categorized as belonging to the genre.

"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook

The Cure, Magazine, Wire.

(some Talking Heads, XTC)

Spent a lot of time trying to get in to a lot of the other bands, but to no avail. Eager to find more from this side of music... but no sense in rushing it.

Blargh

Poll Question: A list of some of my favourite Post Punk bands Which is yours?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Bauhaus	1	[3.70%]
The Birthday Party	0	[0.00%]
Cocteau Twins	3	[11.11%]
The Cure	5	[18.52%]
Devo	1	[3.70%]
Essential Logic	0	[0.00%]
The Gang of Four	0	[0.00%]
The Gun Club	0	[0.00%]
THe Higsons	0	[0.00%]
Japan	0	[0.00%]
Joy Division	3	[11.11%]
Magazine	2	[7.41%]
Modern English	0	[0.00%]
Pere Ubu	0	[0.00%]
THe Psychedelic Furs	1	[3.70%]
Public Image Ltd	0	[0.00%]
Sex Gang Children	0	[0.00%]
Siouxsie and the Banshees	2	[7.41%]
Sisters of Mercy	1	[3.70%]
Swell Maps	0	[0.00%]
Talking Heads	2	[7.41%]
Wall of Voodoo	1	[3.70%]
Tubeway Army	0	[0.00%]
X Mal Deutschland	0	[0.00%]
XTC	5	[18.52%]
This topic is closed, no new votes accepted

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akamaisondufromage Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 16 2009 Location: Blighty Status: Offline Points: 6797	Topic: When Punk was Dead Posted: March 07 2014 at 13:50
	I've probably missed some of my own favourites off and some of these are very debateable as PP but I'm not giving an 'other' option as that could be any of a million bands. You are welcome to make honorary mentions of course. I also tried to avoid Dead Can Dance and Residents etc bands that are also on this site.
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HolyMoly Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138	Posted: March 07 2014 at 13:53
	Very close between XTC and Bauhaus, went with XTC.
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akamaisondufromage Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 16 2009 Location: Blighty Status: Offline Points: 6797	Posted: March 07 2014 at 13:57
	I'm guessing the Devo vote is from Mr Smartpatrol ?
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Dean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575	Posted: March 07 2014 at 14:01
	Siouxsie and the Banshees.
	What?

Polymorphia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856	Posted: March 07 2014 at 14:17
	The Cure, although I love all the bands on this list that I've heard. Edited by Polymorphia - March 07 2014 at 18:51

Guldbamsen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104	Posted: March 07 2014 at 14:28
	I love about 90% of these - the last I haven't heard Impossible to choose just one, but if you put me on the spot, I'll go for Cocteau Twins. Victorialand means the world to me, and it helped me through a rough period of my life where everything seemed to fall to pieces. The beauty of this album, like looking through a turquoise glacier, helped soothe my mind, and it probably kept me in check when the fights in the street got a little too violent and stupid. I realise that last part doesn't make much sense, but I'm referring to a time where a small part of Copenhagen was lit up in flames and riots - all on account of some idiotic political misconception. We, the youngins (well I wasn't that young at the time, but I had been part of the place since I was 13), lost our beloved Ungdomshus (Youth House, club for misfits and the underground people....for lack of a better wording), and the powers that be got to be "in the right". Victorialand was my antidote.
	“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams

Toaster Mantis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898	Posted: March 07 2014 at 14:39
	Voted for The Sisters of Mercy, they're the epitome of a band that doesn't have any business being as fantastic as they are. It's amazing how a band that started out as a subtle but vicious parody of the whole goth/industrial style would quickly become one of its finest practitioners. I can think of few bands who are that supremely ridiculous but in a very stylish and sophisticated manner, it's like the aural equivalent of Andrew Eldritch somehow being able to wear sunglasses at night without looking like an idiot. A close second place will go to The Birthday Party, or as I describe them: Anal ct** for art history majors. There's also an anecdote about the young Nick Cave once telling TSoM to their faces that they were the worst band he'd ever heard. (and a similar one about Echo and the Bunnymen)
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HolyMoly Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138	Posted: March 07 2014 at 15:29
	A cool thing about XTC that just occurred to me is that they managed to be successful (critically and commercially) with off-kilter pop song material that seemed to blend the Beatles (complex, rich song craft) with Captain Beefheart (avantish dissonance). With Skylarking, their approach had changed to a sort of baroque pop, and was equally successful (and is very common nowadays with indie bands). But even that stuff could be kind of dissonant here and there. I went through a phase where I wanted to learn as many of their songs on guitar as I could, and the tabs I found online revealed some really weird chords I'd never attempted before - difficult to play. As for Bauhaus (my 2nd choice), they really had a wide stylistic range that most people don't know about, what with their "goth" legacy. Heavy rock, dance rock, goth, punk, new wave, and more than a fair bit of humor all run through their work. They had the makings of a truly great band, had they stayed together longer. Love and Rockets was a great substitute for a while, but I'm not sure they ever did anything quite so sublime as, say, "Silent Hedges". Edited by HolyMoly - March 07 2014 at 15:30
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akamaisondufromage Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 16 2009 Location: Blighty Status: Offline Points: 6797	Posted: March 07 2014 at 15:39
	^ Not forgetting the Glam Rock side of things. Considering that they kept on getting sl*g.ed off for being Bowie clones. So they did Ziggy and what a version of Ziggy that was - they actually made TOTP exciting for a moment. (An they were in that vampire film Bowie did that I forget the name).
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BarryGlibb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 28 2010 Location: Melbourne, Oz Status: Offline Points: 1781	Posted: March 07 2014 at 16:03
	You've left out The Skids they were my fave. Listen to their 3rd album The Absolute Game it is an absolute masterpiece.

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	Bauhaus gets the nod from me. Daniel Ash really came out with some great guitar sounds back then. "In The Flat Fields" has such a ballsy tone and "The Spy In The Cab" had that cool distortion kick in that's practically black metal sounding tonewise. Some great atmospheric pieces as well such as "All We Ever Wanted Was Everything".

Slartibartfast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630	Posted: March 07 2014 at 18:31
	More than a few I like there. XTC is my favorite though. I also love Talking Heads, some of Pere Ubu, Psychedelic Furs, I have one Cocteau Twins album and one where they worked with Harold Buddd, the Public Image Compact Disc, etc. is pretty good. Edited by Slartibartfast - March 07 2014 at 18:34
	Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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	this heat


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	My favorite is Wire, but they're not up there.

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	Lot of great music there.....very tough I guess I'll go with Talking Heads

Kati Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253	Posted: March 07 2014 at 23:39
	Not sure I understand this forum poll, "has punk died"? I personally believe that punk killed prog in the early 80's tho' naughty punk! Bah hugs to all

uduwudu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2601	Posted: March 08 2014 at 02:24
	The Cure, Magazine or Talking Heads..... The Cure this time around. What killed prog was the press. Genesis were selling arenas and headlining Knebworth while The Pistols played to 200 in the 100 Club. Better chances for the hacks to get access to better drugs, parties and validate their own existence since PF et al did not need them really. Rock is a funny world. The only time you can be seen to be "better" by being worse than someone. (Sid Vicious versus Mike Rutherford...)

Toaster Mantis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898	Posted: March 08 2014 at 02:32
	I think the "post-punk" categorization refers not to coming after punk chronologically, but just to the artists coming from an obvious punk background while at the same time moving their music beyond what can be accurately categorized as belonging to the genre.
	"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook

Icarium Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34055	Posted: March 08 2014 at 02:38
	Chameleon UK are very good post punk band I recomend Norwegian act Raga Rockers Toaster Mantis!


LinusW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 27 2007 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 10665	Posted: March 08 2014 at 02:44
	The Cure, Magazine, Wire. (some Talking Heads, XTC) Spent a lot of time trying to get in to a lot of the other bands, but to no avail. Eager to find more from this side of music... but no sense in rushing it.
	Blargh