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    Posted: July 07 2005 at 06:23

I think during the almost a year I spent lurking on this website, I wrote about 10 reviews. I was satisfied with every single of them, but the next week or right after listening to that album, I understood something's wrong. Every time.

Many people I see on these forums I occassionally notice writing from well thought out  to outstanding reviews(among them deserves to be mentioned FishyMonkey, who, I think, is the only collaborator from the other forums, which I've been visitting on a daily basis for 3 years now!), and here are some questions for them:

1) Are you always satisfied with every single review you have written?

2) Do you ever get back to your old review to correct things you didn't notice at first?

3) Do you feel the need to repeat things that have already been said about an album or review something that has already been reviewed hundreds of times, like DSOTM or CTTE?

4) Do you write reviews to contribute to the site or just because it is a way to express your feelings regarding an album and thus understand it even better? Answer this one honestly.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 06:25

I've only written 4 reviews. I wasn't as  good at it as I thought I'd be.

I'm never happy with them Either!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 06:34
1) No, I should rewrite most of my early reviews, they are very lousy   (not that my recent reviews are that great)

2) Yes, at least I should, but I'm just so damn lazy... I will try to rewrite some of my reviews this summer.

3) Well.. It's difficult to write a review without repeating some of the stuff that's already been said. Because if you don't repeat anything, you probably won't say anything about the music.

At first, I reviewed Yes, Pink Floyd, KC etc. but lately I've been trying to review more obscure stuff.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 06:54

1) Yeh unless I read my reviews after being drunk lol

2) Not really, my comment on an album doesn't change. Therefore, I have no need to correct it.

3) Rarely

4) I usually write my reviews in order to inform other prog fans which album I like, and they might like it too if we share the same ideas. Therefore, I guess I write my reviews to contribute this site and help its visitors discover the good stuff.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:05

I've maybe written 20 or so reviews (in my various guises).

1.I'm never satisfied with my reviews on a sentence by sentence basis,never mind the whole piece.

2.I have corrected 1 review after I completely changed my stance about the band involved (Radiohead)

3.I worry about trying to say something completely different.Having said that, echoing other reviews,even whole sentences, can emphasise the strengths and weaknesses of the album,so that the reader can get a consistent image of what the album is like.

4. I review albums because I want to contribute to the site.I always intend to review a lot more albums but get "writer's block" when it comes down to it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:05
Originally posted by Dan Yaron Dan Yaron wrote:

1) Yeh unless I read my reviews after being drunk lol

2) Not really, my comment on an album doesn't change. Therefore, I have no need to correct it.

3) Rarely

4) I usually write my reviews in order to inform other prog fans which album I like, and they might like it too if we share the same ideas. Therefore, I guess I write my reviews to contribute this site and help its visitors discover the good stuff.

I lived in Israel for 7 years and I never saw a drunk Israeli! (Well not many, and I didn't live in a city)

Most of them cradle a pint of beer for the whole night!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:25

I intend to write more reviews in the future but I have only written one
up to this point. I am reasonably satisfied with that but will probably
review it later and possibly change some things I have written but I think
I chose a safe subject to review first up in CTTE. I have written another on Fragile
but have left it in the cover sleeve of the album for a future listen and 'review
of the review'.

One thing I learn't from essay writing during my degrees was that I
personally need to write the essay with enough time to leave it so that
I could review it so many days later and assess my own work before
completing it and handing it in. That worked well for my grades anyway.

I intend to be as professional in my approach to writing as the skills I have
and the understanding I have will allow me to be, which continues to grow
day by day.

The intention therefore is to present something that is an honest appreciation
of the album with the subjective understanding that this site wants to portray
the most credible representation of this genre of music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:34

I haven't written any reviews yet but due to my experience with music (as a musician) and a sudden adoration of Genesis- I've written a plan for a review of an album and it should be up in the next 42 hours. I *hope*.

But something tells me it'd be more a way of expressing my feelings than actually giving an analytical criticism....but we'll see what happens.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:34
I've written a few (one on Marillion, one on Kino). I don't see as many live prog gigs as used to and maybe I should see a few more.

I enjoy reading the reviews posted here as on the whole, I know the people who write them (or at least know them through their posts) and no matter if I agree or disagree with their view, most give me a good sense of the event. A great review will often make me feel as though I was there in person.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:36

1. Usually, but I'm sure that'll change the more I write.

2. Yes, but mostly spelling/layout.

3. I tend to avoid reviewing albums with more than a handful of reviews. My added voice won't make much difference - why waste energy on it?

4. Partly to contribute to the site, partly to simply "spread the word". I'm a bit of a prog evangelist at times...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:36

1) Are you always satisfied with every single review you have written?

Never quite satisfyed.

2) Do you ever get back to your old review to correct things you didn't notice at first?

I can't do it - I have no access.

3) Do you feel the need to repeat things that have already been said about an album or review something that has already been reviewed hundreds of times, like DSOTM or CTTE?

I don't review all-time classics, trying to choose less acclaimed albums. It would bring more benefit to PA, I believe.

4) Do you write reviews to contribute to the site or just because it is a way to express your feelings regarding an album and thus understand it even better? Answer this one honestly.

To help someone make a choice.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:40
Originally posted by Yurkspb Yurkspb wrote:

2) Do you ever get back to your old review to correct things you didn't notice at first?

I can't do it - I have no access.



Copy the review you want to change, click to add a new review, paste it in and make the alterations, make sure you're using the exact same name and e-mail address and it will simply update your review.

Hope this helps.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:53

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

 

I always intend to review a lot more albums but get "writer's block" when it comes down to it.

 

Me too. I want to write something wonderful, but it turns out rubbish.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 07:56

1) As I have written some 1250 reviews , of course I am not really happy with my first reviews as I lacked experience. Sometimes I have also re-discovered an aspect that I had not seen before and feel bad about forgetting it. Nothing to keep me from sound sleeping at night time , though!

2) yes! On many occasions, have I re-written our touched-up reviews. Most lately my Gryphon reviews (I was reviewing a new release of BBC sessions) which  embarrassed me because they were just comments and a bit of reviewing. There are still groups where my reviews would slightly embarass me, but not stop me from sleeping.

3) The reviews I made about well known albums were about the first ones submitted in (most are from Febr 2004 and the site had been opened  for open reviewing since the month before) and when I wrote them I spent some time speaking of things important but leaving open many other issues since I was confident other reviews would come in. This is especially true for my Genesis reviews.
Nowadays , I would probably not review albums reviewed 80 or 120 times before. However a good deal of my reviews are still sitting all alone in obscure groups page.

4) I write reviews to help others having an easier research of new prog groups (I also rate on Gnosis2000) . I am proud to help make this site one of the prime source of information regarding obscure groups. There is still quite a way to go, because so many obscure prog artist are yet to be discovered. If you were to participate in the Gnosis 2000 forum as I do , you'd probably get discouraged because in 2 years time I have not yet seen a thread on Genesis , Yes , ELP. And just two on KC. I feel a bit like a dwarf discussing there. 45 000 albums are for rating/reviewing

Good thread!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 08:09
I can't correct any of my reviews since they wouldn't let me be a collaborator .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 08:15

1) Are you always satisfied with every single review you have written?

They always present a given moment in time,I'm glad to have written them even if they are not "perfect" to me. I normally don't try to write after a first listen.

2) Do you ever get back to your old review to correct things you didn't notice at first?

I can't, but I wouldn't, (see 1.)

3) Do you feel the need to repeat things that have already been said about an album or review something that has already been reviewed hundreds of times, like DSOTM or CTTE?

In the beginning I tried to write only on rare records, that few people might know, but now I like to give my personal view on records I like.

4) Do you write reviews to contribute to the site or just because it is a way to express your feelings regarding an album and thus understand it even better? Answer this one honestly.

Next question, please. (both I suppose...)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 08:29
Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

I can't correct any of my reviews since they wouldn't let me be a collaborator .


*sighs* I just posted how to do this half an hour ago on this very thread! Seeing as you can't look up, here it is again:

"Copy the review you want to change, click to add a new review, paste it in and make the alterations, make sure you're using the exact same name and e-mail address and it will simply update your review."

Trust me, this works. It's what us collaborators have to do as well!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 08:43

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

I can't correct any of my reviews since they wouldn't let me be a collaborator .


*sighs* I just posted how to do this half an hour ago on this very thread! Seeing as you can't look up, here it is again:

"Copy the review you want to change, click to add a new review, paste it in and make the alterations, make sure you're using the exact same name and e-mail address and it will simply update your review."

Trust me, this works. It's what us collaborators have to do as well!

Actually "Us Collaborators"can also go to the collaborator's page click on your name , type in your password and have access to all our reviews at once in one page. From that moment on , all you need to do is click on the review that needs changing, do the change and save it. The password is given by M@X

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 08:44

 

HI, THIS IS CÉSAR INCA.

" 1) Are you always satisfied with every single review you have written? " No, not always - at tims I feel I've fallen a bit short regarding what I initially had in mind, other times I feel I've expanded my explanations in a failed attempt to make myself clear.

" 2) Do you ever get back to your old review to correct things you didn't notice at first? " Yes, and I have done it a few times - a few months later after the original post, I re-discovered some interresting details that I thought should be added in my review. I've even changed a rating once or twice (one less star than the original amount).

" 3) Do you feel the need to repeat things that have already been said about an album or review something that has already been reviewed hundreds of times, like DSOTM or CTTE? " Yes, just because I want to state my oint of view, too.

" 4) Do you write reviews to contribute to the site or just because it is a way to express your feelings regarding an album and thus understand it even better? " I don't want to sound too overtly "correct", but for me it is both. The main reason why I became a Collaborator was the pleause of contributing with my points of view for the difusion of the prog rock genre - after all, listening to this type of music is my major hobby. On the other hand, it is also very true that I am personally interested in exposing my own particular thoughts and feelings about an album in the net so it may be useful for any potential reader.

Regards.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2005 at 08:48

 

I've written some 60 to 65 reviews (rated 72), I think I write decent reviews, but only the reader can really judge that.

1. No usualy I'm not quite satisfied, there's always things I left out, or things that I think of later, and I'm not a musician so it's often difficult to describe how it sounds, ot what happens, I do my best though

2. Not often do I change things, only obvious mistakes, but some mistakes I leave because that's how I perceived the album at the moment of reviewing, and I'm not afraid to make a fool out of myself.

3. Yes, like Tony indicated to say things again makes the argument stronger, and even when there are 1000 reviews of an album, I think my opinion is still valid, and may still be helpfull to some people.

4. I write mainly for myself, to get more in touch with why I like the album, and get to know the music better (reviewing means listening very carefull, understanding what you hear, and trying to translate what you think of it into words), but I have an audience in mind while I write my reviews, and I always hope someone find it usefull, and listen to the album themselves (if I like it very much), when I don't like an album I try to direct the reader to another album of the same band, which I consider to be a better place to start listening to (I ussualy review albums by bands I know more albums of, and like at least some of them, exceptions are always good albums)

 

Nice thread, curious how others will respond

  

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