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Xanthous 
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 18:38 |
Today I felt like experimenting a little with my electric guitar after listening to some Miles Davis and I remembered hearing about Robert Fripp playing with an alternative tuning. I looked it up on the internet and found the tuning. It's CGDAEG. So after I found that, I went, and to the best of my ability, tuned my guitar to the New Standard Tuning. I've been strumming around with it and find it to be very atmospheric sounding.
Now my question is, who else on ProgArchive has experimented with the NST?
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The Runaway
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 00:41 |
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I have. It takes a while until you find the chords but if you are a trained musician it only takes a short while and then you're good to go. I actually wrote a song using it, but the recording is somewhere on the computer and there's a load of where's it can go :D
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 00:49 |
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I have a bit (but can't vote in the poll for some reason), but very briefly a couple of times. One of my guitars is currently tuned that way, sometimes I pick it up and strum a bit, but I've never really actually sat down and explored its possibilities. Some day, some day.
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 01:04 |
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I'm not willing to drop my bass to C
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 01:14 |
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My 6 string guitar is in E A D G B E and sometimes drop D but to be honest i barely play it.
7 string is tuned the same, just with a low B string, sometimes with the low B tuned down to drop A.
Never felt the need to try NST to be honest
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 01:22 |
I keep my fretless bass in cello tuning, not quite New Standard, but close. 
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 02:30 |
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I have tried it for a short while and found it stimulating for monophonic ideas but completely alien when it comes to chordal passages etc
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 05:08 |
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I tried it once, but I prefer weird tunings like E-A-E-A-A-E.
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 05:48 |
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I use DADGAD more.
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mrcozdude
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 06:03 |
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Who was it who tuned their guitar to E-E-E-E-B-E?
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 07:46 |
 mrcozdude wrote:
Who was it who tuned their guitar to E-E-E-E-B-E? |
I read somewhere that the Glitter Band (yes really) used similar tunings to the one above.
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 09:42 |
mrcozdude wrote:
Who was it who tuned their guitar to E-E-E-E-B-E? |
Probably Glenn Branca, or possibly one of the guys out of Sunn 0))).
I've messed around with DADF#AD, DADGAD and dropped D on acoustic guitars and there are lots of interesting possibilities, but I've never tried to get my head around NST - I'm not that musically literate and I don't think I'd be able to get my head around the chords.
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 09:46 |
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I now have a strat tuned in NST, it's like starting again, I've made in two evenings about 4 ideas for new songs. This guitar is going to remain with NST all the time, the chords inversions makes new colours...
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 10:19 |
I didn't realize it was a standard tuning, I may try that tonight. I've been recently learning Mandolin, and thought to myself "Hey if I just made all my string in 5ths instead of 4ths and one Maj 3rd maybe I could transfer better." Obviously someone else thought of it along time ago. (Mando is tuned as the middle 4 strings in NST.)
Thanks for the tip.
My favorite alternate is FACACF
Most common are the usual drop D and double drop D (DADGBD)
Edited by Negoba - December 01 2009 at 10:22
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 16:59 |
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I just played with NST and the FACACF tuning that Negoba recommended. Good fun.
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 17:34 |
I've never tried that but I did do some retuning using Charles Ives' ideas about using quarter tones in blocked chords (he had a 2 manual piano that where a quarter tone different). Some worked and some didn't. Lots of clashes in the overtone series. < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 17:54 |
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I use in a lot of the songs with my band the drop D tuning... I use for some covers the double drop D which is nice and easy to play.. but the most wierd I have used in some covers is E-A-B-E-B-E. Very wierd chords but the poliphony helps a lot more... standard tuning in the 70% of my playing...
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Posted: December 02 2009 at 03:27 |
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C as the bass chord... most guitars can't play this correctly.
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Posted: December 02 2009 at 04:06 |
Negoba wrote:
I didn't realize it was a standard tuning, |
It isn't a standard tuning. A standard tuning is a tuning with the 2nd and 3rd strings having an interval of a major 3rd between them and every other string has an interval of a 4th between them. When someone refers to a tuning as "B standard" what they just mean is that it's E standard tuned down 5 semi tones, or in the case of a 7 string it's just the usual factory tuning.
mono wrote:
C as the bass chord... most guitars can't play this
correctly.
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What do you mean by this? Guitars can quite comfortably be tuned down to an octave below C standard if you use the correct scale length and string gauges. Most 25.5 inch scale guitars will easily be able to get down to A standard with no issues, so C standard is not much of a stretch at all. My 7 string guitar is a 25.5 inch scale instrument and it handles drop A with no issues provided I use a 56 gauge string.
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Posted: December 02 2009 at 06:01 |
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If you use custom strings set it's ok. I use 09 11 17 28 42 58. Trying to play a 42 in C IS quite difificult.
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