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walrus

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Topic: crimson double trio or classic line up.?
Posted: March 31 2005 at 15:53

What was the best king crimson line up/???

you and whose army?

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Posted: March 31 2005 at 16:02

Fripp
Bruford
Wetton
Cross
and sometimes Muir

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Posted: March 31 2005 at 16:15

danbo wrote:

Fripp
Bruford
Wetton
Cross
and sometimes Muir

yup that pretty much covers it

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Posted: March 31 2005 at 17:04

Danbo is correct

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Posted: March 31 2005 at 23:23

The one without Fripp ... nah ... maybe not in terms of one for one musicianship (in which case the Fripp/Wetton/Bruford/Cross line-up wins) but for sheer orginality, potential and compositional strength it's got to be ...

Fripp
McDonald
Lake
Giles
and sometimes Sinfield

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Posted: March 31 2005 at 23:26

Trotsky wrote:

Fripp
McDonald
Lake
Giles
and sometimes Sinfield

yup

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 00:04

Walrus wrote:

What was the best king crimson line up/???

God there are so many to choose from!

Fripp, Levin, Bruford, Belew for me. But Wetton, Bruford, and Fripp (The Red Line up) came in a VERY close 2nd.

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 00:16

BebieM wrote:

Trotsky wrote:

Fripp
McDonald
Lake
Giles
and sometimes Sinfield

yup

...and ditto

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 00:20

valravennz wrote:

BebieM wrote:

Trotsky wrote:

Fripp
McDonald
Lake
Giles
and sometimes Sinfield

yup

...and ditto

I like it as well, but KC didn't get really good till around the Larks' Tongue period IMO (although I like In the Wake of Poseidon which I bought today, and of course ITCOTCK is good, too).

I would also assume that most ELP fans like this line up the most.

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 00:33

All you really need is Wetton, Bruford, and Fripp, but Cross and Muir were an added bonus.

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 00:35

The first was the best....

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 00:36

threefates wrote:

The first was the best....

Again, restating what I wrote above.

I must say that Fripp's guitar is a black beauty (literally). I've always wanted one...

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 00:37

Aww come on people. It's without a doubt MkI . It was just perfect. The multi instrumental talents of Mcdonald with the beautiful voice of greg lake (and tight bass playing). And michael giles drumming. Dear god people!! Bruford is good but giles has this technique where he almost isn't going to make the fill but does it superbly,kind of like he doesn't actually know what he's playing. but you know what i mean. Incredible. And fripp is fripp, Like hackett with a different name but not as cool.

Well Instead of writting that rubbish(especially the giles bit) I could have just said. Listen to ITCOTCK.

This post will no doubt be edited when I wake up later.

But The Beatles are better and so are Gentle Giant...and Foreigner(throwaway comment. ignore)

Post script: Mcdonald & Giles is a far superior album to anything KC released up to red. Red's not better, just a contender. and thats a fact.Jack.

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 00:46

Don't you just love people who try to give you their opinion as fact...

I've got the McDonald & Giles album... as well as a boot of the first Giles, Giles and Fripp... and (IMO) neither are as good as ITCOTCK. Of course, that could be due to the lack of a specific vocal god....

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 02:09

A tie for me, between the Fripp/Wett/Bruf (and sometimes Cross) lineup, and the stellar '80s lineup of Fripp/Belew/Bruf/Levin. Discipline is simply amazing.

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 02:20

See, and I think Discipline is one of their worst. I prefer Red and more so "Larks Tongue" to Discipline... but then you love that overly chaotic feeling in music...

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 03:51

Fripp/Wetton/Bruford with Cross and Muir - for sheer musical inventiveness, the LTIA - Red phase of King Crimson is unbeateable - just check out any of the live recordings from that era.

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 05:23

Any Crim line-up worked good for that specific era of the band. I can't imagine the Fripp/Lake/McDonald/Giles line-up playing songs from the 'Larks' or the 'Discipline' era. And so on. I dislike the Fripp/Wetton/Bruford/Cross version of 'Schizoid Man' on USA.

All versions of Crim had their own qualities that Fripp used at their fullest.

My personal fav is the 'Larks'/Starless/Red' line-up.

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 06:10

Whichever one did Red!

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Posted: April 01 2005 at 10:59

See, and I think Discipline is one of their worst. I prefer Red and more so "Larks Tongue" to Discipline... but then you love that overly chaotic feeling in music...

Nah. There is an abundance of energy and sections that flirt with chaos, but Discipline isn't an album by Magma. At the time, Belew and Levin were just what Fripp needed. He didn't want to just pick up where Red (another of my fave KC albums) left off, and it probably wouldn't have made a whole lot of sense to do so. Clean the earwax outta your ears!

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