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Vi0LaToR
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Topic: guitarist Posted: March 24 2006 at 09:22 |
i think is most important the creativity to make melodies like david gilmour or Fripp, howe has the two qualities but steve vai i think only has skill to play for example
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FragileDT
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 09:35 |
You need both. If you're not skilled to play you can't create melodies. I like
more emotional players.
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Valarius
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Posted: March 24 2006 at 19:50 |
I see this turning into a shred bashing thread.
Anywho, I haven't voted coz like FragileDT said, you need both.
Sure, you need to be creative, but there's nothing funnier than seeing people *try* to do stuff they blatently can't (And there's a lot of that where I live).
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Zepology101
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 07:52 |
Creativity, if he only had skill, then he could be able to play anything, but it's going to be suckish sounding. trust me, I' a guitar player!!!.
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Viajero Astral
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 18:13 |
Both
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eddietrooper
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 18:44 |
Vi0LaToR wrote:
i think is most important the creativity to make melodies like david gilmour or Fripp, howe has the two qualities but steve vai i think only has skill to play for example |
Howe has both? Mmmm, not really. He was a skillfull player when compared with other guitar players from early 70's but I can't imagine him playing the speedy and technical solos by some modern guitarists as Vai, Petrucci or even Trevor Rabin. In fact when he plays on stage some of the Trevor Rabin stuff he never tries to play his solos. He just couldn't do it the same. When Eddie Van Halen came up in 1977 with a whole new guitar technique all the guitar players that supposed to be skillfull before him ceased to be so skillfull. The post-Van Halen guitar players are usually much more advanced technically than the early 70's guitarists.
That said, I must say that I love Howe's playing, but I consider Steve Howe more a "creative" guitar player, and I prefer him over most of the "skillfull" players.
But of course the best would be a mix between creativity and technical ability.
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JayDee
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 19:17 |
Both
Skill preceeds creativity
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MiniGorbi
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Posted: March 30 2006 at 05:44 |
You need Both!
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Matt Dickens
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Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:13 |
I would go with Creativity
Omar Rodriguez Lopez isn't exactly that good technically but i enjoy hearing him over the John Petrucci's and Joe Satriani.
But anyone who thinks Steve Vai isn't creative with his melodies should absolutely listen to his latest album and the song K'm Pee Du Wee in Particular
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coffeeintheface
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Posted: July 10 2006 at 22:56 |
without melodies, skill is nothing. Why do you suppose the majority of
shredders like Rusty Cooley do little except make instructional DVDs?
Because they suck at making actual MUSIC.
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 13:11 |
Which leg do you want to have: a)left b)right
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Arsillus
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 14:05 |
Both are preferable, but creativity over technical skill in the end.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 16:23 |
I think you need to have both, but in order to play melodies, you have to have the skill to pull them of musically.
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fungusucantkill
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 16:25 |
you can know how to play every song in the book
but to make an origonal
something YOU create
is a whole nother ballgame
i went with creativity
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Posted: July 14 2006 at 16:49 |
Both.
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imoeng
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Posted: July 15 2006 at 08:09 |
Vi0LaToR wrote:
i think is most important the creativity to make melodies like david gilmour or Fripp, howe has the two qualities but steve vai i think only has skill to play for example |
I disagree, sorry.. Btw which album of Vai makes you think like that? There is an album called the 7th song, full of melodic and ballad songs (still instrumental though) like For The Love Of God, Tender Surrender, Hands On Heart.. Do you think these songs aren't melodic?
Oh and I would say a combination is the best, but maybe the feeling is more important...
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Philéas
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 10:10 |
Creativity. If you only can play solos, you're worth nothing in a band.
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Kleynan
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 17:41 |
Steve Hackett is a perfect example for this poll. He can create amazing melodies, but for some reason he has never learned how to bend properly.
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Markus
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Posted: July 23 2006 at 15:59 |
Creativity,but it's not easy question...
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Dr. Evil
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Posted: July 23 2006 at 16:02 |
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