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    Posted: October 29 2023 at 19:40
I'm sure this will spark some heated debate... just what we need here at PA, since we don't have enough of that already LOL

As I'm sure you've all heard, the Beatles are releasing this supposed 'FINAL TRACK' (STILL WAITING for 'Carnival of Light')

They're not adding anything that wasn't there, don't worry..

I for one am excited, I never expected to get a new Beatles song in my lifetime

What are y'all's thoughts?
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If they do release it i would imagine it will be tacked onto an overpriced box set that features all the tracks that we already have on a huge number of other releases already.

Add to that if it has been neglected this long then it's probably not anything to get over excited about.

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It will be released as a 7-inch single for $17 on black vinyl, $20 (USD) on Colored vinyl, and the 12" is $22, they're releasing it on remastered, remixed, and expanded Red and Blue albums, on colored blue vinyl (for the blue album, the red one has red vinyl) it's $80, which is ridiculous

You can find out all about it through various YouTube videos and their website, 

I'll listen to the track on digital, and then consider buying the 7-inch single
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Well at this point anything from The Beatles is welcome no matter how inferior it may be to the cream of the crop. Maybe it was just a lost tape in the attic. I'm definitely interested in hearing it :)

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^ The old version is around, if the link doesn't work just check youtube "Now and Then"by john lennon -- performed live by Apple Jam

It's far from John's best and the melodic content was a bit better on 'Free as a Bird' & 'Real Love', but it's not a bad composition for the time.  


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^There were 4 tapes on the cassette Yoko gave Paul, something which they scrapped VERY early on, (it was nonsense by Paul McCartney standards) Free As a Bird, Real Love, and Now and Then

Oh I've very interested in hearing it, buying a physical copy for that much is another story
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ The old version is around, if the link doesn't work just check youtube "Now and Then"by john lennon -- performed live by Apple Jam

It's far from John's best and the melodic content was a bit better on 'Free as a Bird' & 'Real Love', but it's not a bad composition for the time.  




Thanks for that :)

Missed this one somehow.

Sounds like a typical Lennon song.

Not bad at all but needed work to be a real zinger.

I do love Free As A Bird and Real Love.

Those were perfect bonus tracks for those anthology albums.

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^I heard Paul plays some slide guitar on it, that should be interesting
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It's not going to be another Penny Lane or Eleanor Rigby. Underwelmed but it can't do any damage to an amazing legacy. It's of some small interest so will maybe give it a listen.
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Looking forward to hearing it. Smile
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Will it be better than Free as a Bird or Real Love?
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

If they do release it i would imagine it will be tacked onto an overpriced box set that features all the tracks that we already have on a huge number of other releases already.

Add to that if it has been neglected this long then it's probably not anything to get over excited about.

Well, there are some very expensive reissues of the Red and Blue albums on vinyl, with some changes to the track listing.

The new track itself has been "neglected" because it's taken AI technology to get it to a listenable state.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ The old version is around, if the link doesn't work just check youtube "Now and Then"by john lennon -- performed live by Apple Jam

It's far from John's best and the melodic content was a bit better on 'Free as a Bird' & 'Real Love', but it's not a bad composition for the time.  

The link does not work for me. 
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ The old version is around, if the link doesn't work just check youtube "Now and Then"by john lennon -- performed live by Apple Jam

It's far from John's best and the melodic content was a bit better on 'Free as a Bird' & 'Real Love', but it's not a bad composition for the time.  



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This is the best version I can find, it's actually quite a haunting melody considering the circumstances.
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In the words of an old Beatles song: Let it be.
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It is clearly, painfully a period Lennon cut and sounds nothing like anything the Beatles did or would ever do.  


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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

I'm sure this will spark some heated debate... just what we need here at PA, since we don't have enough of that already LOL

As I'm sure you've all heard, the Beatles are releasing this supposed 'FINAL TRACK' (STILL WAITING for 'Carnival of Light')

They're not adding anything that wasn't there, don't worry..

I for one am excited, I never expected to get a new Beatles song in my lifetime

What are y'all's thoughts?

I personally wouldn't get too excited about "Carnival of Light". 

Just anther unreleased experiment that has gained some kind of mythical status purely because it remains unreleased. 

A sound experiment Paul flung together in an attempt to enhance a reputation for innovation. I think there's a reason it has remained unreleased.
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Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Will it be better than Free as a Bird or Real Love?


From what I've heard above, yess, a bit better

But so what? They won't get me to buy it it.
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