Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Polls
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - The solo tracks on Fragile
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

The solo tracks on Fragile

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Poll Question: How do you feel about the solo tracks on Fragile by Yes?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
5 [6.25%]
4 [5.00%]
14 [17.50%]
14 [17.50%]
1 [1.25%]
2 [2.50%]
1 [1.25%]
1 [1.25%]
3 [3.75%]
12 [15.00%]
5 [6.25%]
6 [7.50%]
9 [11.25%]
3 [3.75%]
You can not vote in this poll

Author
Message
AFlowerKingCrimson View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 02 2016
Location: Philly burbs
Status: Offline
Points: 18483
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: The solo tracks on Fragile
    Posted: October 20 2023 at 06:58
Multiple votes are allowed. Up to 5 if necesssary. Lol.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - October 21 2023 at 13:52
Back to Top
VianaProghead View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: July 15 2015
Location: Portugal
Status: Offline
Points: 3015
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VianaProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 07:19
I really only like of Cans And Brahms” of Wakeman that is an interesting piece of classical music and “Mood For A Day” that is a good piece of acoustic guitar music. The others three tracks are disconnected and don’t deserve make part of this great album. Without  these tracks thi scould have been a masterpiece. It's the reason why I gave only 4 stars to the album.
"PROG IS MY FERRARI".
Jem Godfrey (Frost*)
Back to Top
progaardvark View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams

Joined: June 14 2007
Location: Sea of Peas
Status: Offline
Points: 51428
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote progaardvark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 08:28
I voted Other. Five Per Cent of Nothing should have been expanded into a 7-minute long instrumental and all the other solo tracks should have been saved for their respective solo albums. All my footprints go in very specific places, especially after getting soaked up by a dish rag.
----------
i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag
that's a happy bag of lettuce
this car smells like cartilage
nothing beats a good video about fractions
Back to Top
suitkees View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: July 19 2020
Location: France
Status: Offline
Points: 9050
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 08:55
I like all the solo tracks even five percent, they make the album more interesting, or at least more special. I actually don't understand the aversion against those tracks. I generally like it when a band experiment things and you would expect that progressive rock fans would like that too. It may not necessarily be good or fantastic, but it is at least interesting - and I think that all those solo tracks are interesting and make Fragile special.

The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Back to Top
JD View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: February 07 2009
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 18446
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 09:26
It's their mini version of ELP's Works Vol 1.  LOL
But seriously, given the intent to highlight each musician individually, and thereby setting up the extended solo stuff live, I get it. And yes, it does break up the momentum of the otherwise, brilliant, other 4 songs.

I accept them and don't have a problem with them


Thank you for supporting independently produced music
Back to Top
unclemeat69 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: April 14 2007
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 362
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote unclemeat69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 09:43
I only really like the Howe, Squire and Anderson ones (Clap is on the Yes Album, the one here is of course Mood For A Day).
They do kinda break the flow of the album for me except for The Fish as it flows nicely out of Long Distance Runaround.
Follow your bliss
Back to Top
AJ Junior View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 11 2021
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 253
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AJ Junior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 10:02
Never really thought about it until people on the internet started complaining. Still a 5-star album for me and one of the greatest of all time. Controversially, my favorite Yes album. I'm still kinda confused as to what the "solo-tracks" even are though. 
"Together We Stand, Divided We Fall"
Back to Top
ThamesRoyal View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: October 06 2021
Location: Oakland
Status: Offline
Points: 51
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ThamesRoyal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 10:21
I like them all, although Cans & Brahms is my least favorite. There's something pub like about that track!
Back to Top
Octopus II View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 21 2023
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 10978
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Octopus II Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 10:22
I certainly don't have a problem with them. Smile
Back to Top
AFlowerKingCrimson View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 02 2016
Location: Philly burbs
Status: Offline
Points: 18483
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 10:23
Originally posted by AJ Junior AJ Junior wrote:

Never really thought about it until people on the internet started complaining. Still a 5-star album for me and one of the greatest of all time. Controversially, my favorite Yes album. I'm still kinda confused as to what the "solo-tracks" even are though. 

My thoughts exactly which is why I added it as an option. People also complain about I know what I like and more fool me but not as much as the solo stuff on Fragile imo. Fragile is one of my favorite Yes albums but maybe that's partly because it's one of the first I ever heard. 

The solo tracks are considered to be:

Cans and Brahms (Wakeman)
We Have Heaven (Anderson)
Five Percent For Nothing (Bruford)
The Fish (Schilenderia Praemataurus) (Squire)
Mood for a Day (Howe)


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - October 20 2023 at 10:25
Back to Top
TheGazzardian View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: August 11 2009
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 8739
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote TheGazzardian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 11:18
They give the album part of its characters. IMO "The Fish" and "We Have Heaven" are the standouts, "Mood For a Day" is good (but I do prefer "Clap" from the Yes Album), "5 Percent for Nothing" is interesting but doesn't hit any emotional notes, and "Cans and Brahms" is ok but the actual Brahms Symphony its from is better, although I get that Wakeman was restricted from composing something for Yes so they had to do some sort of cover.
Back to Top
Steve Wyzard View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 30 2017
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 2664
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Wyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 13:26
I voted for "I accept them and don't have a problem with them". They don't make the album better or worse, and the band's discography would not be as interesting without them. "Mood for a Day" is my favorite of the five.

If you'd really like to make this thread interesting, can't it also be said that "Long Distance Runaround" (not to mention "A Venture" from The Yes Album) is also a Jon Anderson solo piece with the rest of the group backing him?
Back to Top
verslibre View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: July 01 2004
Location: CA
Status: Offline
Points: 17539
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 15:08
Other: Rick Wakeman rules!
Back to Top
richardh View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 28412
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 16:14
Fragile must be one of the best sounding albums ever. It's a little bit grainy but equally as clear as a bell. On headphones it rules. I also think that Yes never played better. The interplay is quite extraordinary. Greatest 5 peice line up ever imo. Of course the 3 centre piece tracks rule the album but the rest cannot and does not spoil it. Arguably it's also the most eclectic Yes album and that adds to the fun. 4.999/5 Wink

Back to Top
someone_else View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: May 02 2008
Location: Going Bananas
Status: Offline
Points: 24359
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 16:16
Options 2, 3, 9, 12 and 13 are applicable for me.

But what is Clrap doing here?
Back to Top
Hrychu View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 03 2013
Location: poland?
Status: Offline
Points: 5430
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 17:04
Yeah. Clap is not on Fragile. The author probably meant Mood for a Day.

Honestly, I don't mind the solo tracks that much. I do think 5% for nothing would've been better had it been developed into a full song and also that Cans & Brams has too much of a "muzak" or "street barrel organ" feel for me to enjoy it as much as the fully fleshed out songs on Fragile, like HotS or SSotS.
Back to Top
Zappastolethetowels View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 19 2023
Location: NY
Status: Offline
Points: 1196
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zappastolethetowels Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2023 at 17:49
Idk... this seems a little redundant 
Back to Top
Sean Trane View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Prog Folk

Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Online
Points: 20300
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2023 at 03:13
Howe's Mood For Day in on Fragile and not Clap, as that's on TYA. Geek




They kind of ruin the album, though I like Anderson's We Have Heaven.

Just imagine that we could've had another 9-mins epic instead of those useless pieces : something close to Southside of the Runaround.Big smile

Or better yet: S&G's America


.
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
Back to Top
Progosopher View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 12 2009
Location: Coolwood
Status: Offline
Points: 6467
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2023 at 13:31
They help make the album great.

The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
Back to Top
AFlowerKingCrimson View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 02 2016
Location: Philly burbs
Status: Offline
Points: 18483
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2023 at 13:53
Of course I meant Mood for a Day. I fixed it now. 

A little trivia though. The initial recording combined both but then Steve decided to make it two tracks which might explain why a live version of Clap is on TYA.


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - October 21 2023 at 13:55
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.162 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.