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Poll Question: Choose three of your favourite tracks/songs used in cinema.
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    Posted: May 29 2023 at 02:57
Hi you music lovers ! This is not about film music!

Well, not entirely... This is more about music used in films, but that also has (had) an existence outside of that film, and by that I don't mean on the soundtrack, but on an album of the band/artist you want to bring forward.

As an example (and to get that one right out of the way... Tongue): Radiohead - Exit Music (For a Film)




End of 1996 I went to see Baz Luhrmann's wonderful Romeo + Juliet. A great film, full of great pop/rock songs. The best came with the end credits, but I didn't know the band yet, called Radiohead (because I'm always staying to read the end credits of a film, especially when I want to know who wrote/played what music... I discovered their name only then).
So, immediately after the screening I ran out to the record store to buy the soundtrack (well that's not true because it was late in the evening and the shop would be closed anyway, but this is to make the story a bit more juicy), only to find out that this end titles track was not on it! Well, Censored damned Censored... Angry
Fortunately, a couple of months later OK Computer was released... Actually, this song was specifically written for the film, but only first released on Radiohead's new album.

So, what are we looking for? Music, songs, tracks that was/were not (necessarily) written for a film but has been used in a film where you noticed it. So, no theme music or film compositions that only exists thanks to the films or their soundtrack albums (so most Ennio Morricone, Lalo Schifrin, etc. won't qualify), but music that also or especially has an existence (before or after the film's release) outside of the film thanks to the artist/band of your choice. No James Bond theme music, but I would allow some of those famous title songs. You see, there are rules, but in this mad house...

There are many directors who use a lot of pop and/or rock music in their films (e.g. Wim Wenders, David Lynch, Baz Luhrmann, thus... and many many others, so I don't think you will have difficulties to find something. It doesn't have to be pop or rock, but since we are on a prog rock site... (and prog is allowed). However, we also like to discover lesser known or unknown music - even if it is by known bands/artists - so if you can avoid those songs that everybody already knows (James Bond title songs, for example Tongue), that would be better (but not an obligation).

To sum up:
- Choose one or more (up to three, four...) songs that you noticed - not necessarily discovered - in a film, but that was not - necessarily - written for that film and that as such also exists independently on a band's/artist's own releases (before or after the film's release);
- Present your choices, mentioning the film and preferably with a youtube embed (and a nice story with it, if you wish);
- After one or two weeks (or so) we will ask you to nominate one of your choices to be put up in the poll;
- Once the poll is up you can vote for three of your favourites, other than your own.

I hope I didn't forget anything. Enjoy!

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Here is the playlist of the final nominations for the poll (thanks Greg!):



https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4L2fjTTZ6xeAvIjKGywcl74




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A first candidate of mine, with a similar story as Radiohead's one. This song accompanies the end credits of Le cinquième élément (The Fifth Element), the 1997 film of Luc Besson, and ended up on RXRA, Eric Serra's first solo album. Serra is of course especially known for his film music (for Luc Besson, notably, but not exclusively. GoldenEye, anyone?), but this solo album is quite enjoyable.

Eric Serra - A Little Light of Love (from the film Le cinquième élément and the album RXRA, 1998)



Edit: alternative video here, if the above one doesn't work...


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Usual story. The video you posted doesn't play for me. This one does but probably not outside the States, though it is from Eric Serra's official channel.

Edit; updated to link provided by Kees for the full song.



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This is a well-known rocker from the 1985 teen comedy Better Off Ted, starring a young John Cusak. I saw it screened at a lecture hall on my college campus and the writer/director spoke afterward in a Q&A with students. He talked how much of the music budget went to getting permission for the song. There was, I believe, a Sinatra song in the movie for which they paid an impersonator to sing as it was cheaper than getting the actual recording.

Here's the clip from the movie.



Oh, and the full song.

Van Halen - Everybody Wants Some!!



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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Usual story. The video you posted doesn't play for me. This one does but probably not outside the States, though it is from Eric Serra's official channel.
<snip video>

You found the (shorter) edit for the end titles of the film. It'll do, but I chose the album version which is 7 minutes long. Maybe this is an alternative that works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGv7YyFNKog

Nice to see Van Halen coming up!

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^That one works for me.
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As I wrote in the other thread, I have little memory for what music was in films. One strange exception is Clerks, which was big fun to watch in 1994, and I realised that there was quite a bit of music in it that was different from what I usually listen to, but that I liked and made a lot of sense in the film.

Girls Against Boys - Kill the Sexplayer
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And, very very different:
Michael Nyman - The Piano
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And a bonus, probably too well known this one. RIP Ryuichi Sakamoto, Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence.

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Hi,

Sorry ... I can't do songs, but I will take the title cut of "Purple Rain".

Goodness ... no PURPLE RAIN yet? it is by far one of the few rock films that is actually a film and music altogether and tied beautifully, even if you don't like Prince! It is a fabulous film, and emotional makes the music from the album even stronger and richer ... no rock album has EVER come close to the quality, story and 
continuity of that film.

Ryuichi Sakamoto's soundtracks are ... amazing. though I love MCML, in many ways the music in The Sheltering Sky is fabulous, as is the music for "Little Buddha" which features some outstanding soprano pieces in classical music. I also like what he did with "The Last Emperor", for which he shared the Oscar with David Byrne ... in what was a reversal ... David did the Chinese music, and Ryuichi did the Western music for all the film! And they took home the gold! Deservedly so!


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Hmmm, maybe I was not clear enough in my OP, so before we go further let me know how I can be more explicit about this:
Originally posted by I I wrote:

This is not about film music!

Well, not entirely... This is more about music used in films, but that also has (had) an existence outside of that film, and by that I don't mean on the soundtrack, but on an album of the band/artist you want to bring forward.
So, I specifically wanted to exclude film scores or songs from soundtracks that only exists as or on those soundtracks (or as reference to the soundtrack). Well, I know Michael Nyman has done different versions of The Piano, as maybe did Sakamoto with Merry Christmas... but their main reference point remains the film. Prince is quite a unique case, but yes I want songs (or tracks) not a whole film score. So, with "this is not about film music" I mean that the music should have an existence otherwise. This can all be open to discussion of course, but not for this poll... Tongue

Sorry, if this complicates things. I thought it would be the other way around... I'll give another example.



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From a very famous artist (and gosh, many films use his work...) and a very famous film (well, I guess...), from the album 1. Outside that appeared in 1995 and used for the opening titles and the end credits in the film Lost Highway by David Lynch, from 1997:

David Bowie - I'm Deranged:

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:


Sorry, if this complicates things. I thought it would be the other way around... I'll give another example.

My issue was finding things that qualify from the beginning, so the more constrained the definition, the harder it is. You may not connect to my lack of interest for the music/film connection despite loving both films and music, but honestly, I don't have a clue what was composed for the soundtrack and what wasn't, and I'm not  really interested. I thought soundtrack is what the music for films is called, be it composed specifically for the film or not. Clerks have a soundtrack CD. Were the songs on it composed for the soundtrack? Maybe not, but I don't have any idea whatsoever, and why would I care?


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I thought soundtrack is what the music for films is called, be it composed specifically for the film or not.
True, but it can have an existence only as film music (and there has already been an IA poll about that), but also as an autonomous work (autonomous from the film) from the artist/band. It is this latter category that I'm aiming at. Kill the Sexplayer fits the bill since it also appeared on the Girs Against Boys album Cruise Yourself.
Sorry if you cannot connect to that. And maybe my choice of Eric Serra put you on a "wrong" track. Since there are really loads and loads of songs made by artists/bands (and not film music composers) that are used in films, I thought this would be rather open and accessible. I may be mistaken...


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I can think of so many. The first two songs I thought of were from Harold and Maude and The Graduate, but despite being released before on albums, the music feels like it was composed for the film. An interesting one is Lard von Trier's Breaking the Waves, where he uses songs for the interstices between "acts" (even Pedro I think would appreciate "songs" alone in this context). Great film from a great.

Tarantino (and Lynch) is a favourite of mine for taking older music and inserting it in his films. Across 110th Street off Jackie Brown is one favourite but I am going to mention "Bang Bang" from Nancy Sinatra's 1966 album How Does That Grab You?, which was used in Tarantino's Kill Bill.



The song was wriiten by Cher's ex-hubby and music partner Sonny Bono and was released earlier that year on an another 1966 album (A Cher one), The Sonny Side of Chér (1966).
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Since there are really loads and loads of songs made by artists/bands (and not film music composers) that are used in films, I thought this would be rather open and accessible. I may be mistaken...

Sorry for repeating myself. I'm well aware that there are many and I understand what you're looking for. The thing is just, my way of watching films stands in the way of this, as I will appreciate them as integral work without normally perceiving the music as a separate entity, with the implication that I don't normally know, afterwards, what music was in the film. Which means that the fingers on one hand, maybe two, are probably enough to count the things that I even know qualify. The three things I have posted are rare exceptions in this respect. Lucky as I am,  one of them will count, so that I can participate. Well, I'm kind of ambitious now to find some others, but for the sake of this poll I just hope others have a different attitude to music in films.
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I thought of Radiohead's Exit Music, too, it's been used in several movies, TV shows. 

Also thought of The Doors - The End and its brilliant use in Apocalypse Now. But it's just too famous to suggest here. 

David Lynch likes to use Roy Orbison in his movies, too famous again? Ermm

I'll find some other examples soon. Smile
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This piece is a memory from my early childhood which I would like to share with you guys. It is, so to speak, my first conscious experience with classical music, which I got to know in a playful way through Disney’s Fantasia (1940). Of course everybody knows the film but perhaps the memory of this beautiful music has faded a little in the meantime?

The Sorcerer’s Apprentice, a symphonic poem by the French composer Paul Dukas (1879), based on J:W. von Goethe’s poem of the same name (1797) will be my first suggestion. Smile

Here’s an excerpt from Fantasia followed by a full live recording. The entire piece was used in the film btw.


Paul A. Dukas: L'apprenti sorcier (Orchestre National de France)



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In this case, I choose a director, Nanni Moretti, who recently presented his 'Il Sol dell'avvenire' at Cannes, and I look for some songs that he has given space to in some scenes of his films.

There are also some recurring songs, in his films, that he has helped to make famous or popular, songs to which he has given a free video because, at times, he has used them to seal with music some crucial passages of the film.
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Kees:

Exit Music is my fave song by Radiohead....
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