Vangelis was progressive!

kingfriso wrote: Hypothesis is by far his best record. This strange space/free-jazz record is amazingly atmospheric and odd. I like it very much!

A great album, but, its doesnt fall in that unique style what people recognized as Vangelis music as well.

Rocktopus wrote: ko wrote: kingfriso wrote: Hypothesis is by far his best record. This strange space/free-jazz record is amazingly atmospheric and odd. I like it very much! A great album, but, its doesnt fall in that unique style what people recognized as Vangelis music as well. There are tons of  nice albums like Hypothesis, by so many artists. Hm, I sort of agree, but I do know tons of strange space/free-jazz records, and still feel Hypothesis (which is also my Vangelis favorite) sticks out as rather unique. Could you name some of those tons of nice albums by so many artists? Maybe there's some I shoukd know about?

Of course i can not listed *covers* of Hypothesis   but I can make a list of a lot of *strange space/free-jazz* albums - much better than Hypothesis. I presume that yu're able to listed them by yourself too- please don't tell me that Hypothesis is THE best album of that strange space / free - jazz > WHAT IS HUGE AS AN OCEAN! 

Edited by ko - December 27 2009 at 15:54

To me, Vangelis is one serious composer of 20th century. One of the most important, if you like. He did do alot of great things, and he did it with that electronic music. Who did for the genre more than him anyway? Tangerine Dream and Klause Schulze,(I like them, btw)  or Jarre (i hate him with a passion), couldnt be in Vangelis' range.

Edited by ko - December 29 2009 at 03:21

Rocktopus wrote: ko wrote: To me, Vangelis is one serious composer of 20th century. One of the most important, if you like. Oh, I see. Well he's certainly nothing like that to me. I enjoy him as a fine artist among many with a relation to the progressive "rock" movement of the 70's. Seeing him as a serious composer of the 20th century and one of the most important, sounds.... well... seriously uninformed.

Rocktopus wrote: ko wrote: Actually, I don't care about unlistenable modern composers! This also sound.... well... seriously uninformed. Since its written this obviously looks more uninformed than it sounds.

The movie Blade Runner is undoubtedly an all-time classic. The atmosphere is so memorable, that almost every adventure game with urban or sci-fi settings will remind me of Blade Runner.

I have the Blade Runner trilogy (film soundtrack) by Vangelis, which is probably considered to be his best work (according to RYM).

I thought he was meaning guys like Stockhausen or Arvo Part...(The second might be "prog related" I think). Calling them unlistenable means that he never listened to them with enough attention. Try the 2001 Odyssey original soundtrack for a first approach.  Back to Vangelis, he has done an experimant in that direction with the album "Invisible connections" recorded for Deutsche Grammophon, that's a Classical music label. But if Vangelis is noise, dark ambient and so on, what should we say of Magma, Soft Machine or Bevis Frond? Is the middle section of "saucerful of secrets" NOISE?

ko wrote: Please tell me some names in your choice?

Some of my faves among 20th century composers:

Dimitri Shostakovich
Bela Bartok
Giacinto Scelsi
Krzysztof Penderecki
Morton Feldman
Kaija Saariaho
Maurice Ravel
Claude Debussy

I don't mind if you prefer Vangelis to these and the rest of the big names of 20th century. But stating that he is one of the most important is just silly and wrong.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I like contemporary music and Part is one of my favourites. I don't compare Vangeluis with any of the musicians that you have mentioned above. They are different. Also Invisible connections can't be compared.  However I still don't know what was the meaning of "unlistenable".

It's a good idea for another post: What do you think is unlistenable? (only one name and possibly present on progarchives).