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ziggystardust360 
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 Posted: July 25 2008 at 22:29 |
 Easy Money wrote:
Here's my two cents: Avant-garde music, electronic music from many era's and minimalist music make up a big part of my record collection, but I have always found Anderson's music to be very shallow and trendy. No offense to some of you who like her, but I think her main skills are in schmoozing the "in crowd" and making sure she is in good with the right people. If there is a genre for networking and social climbing on this site, then she definitley belongs. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 25 2008 at 22:44 |
ziggystardust360 wrote:
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She is quite experimental. |
Experimental is not necesarilly Prog Ziggy, if it wa we would had to add REM.
Iván
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 25 2008 at 22:53 |
"O lovely pussy! Pussy my love! What a wonderful pussy you are."
Laurie Anderson
It's really in the lyrics...
Edited by Slartibartfast - July 26 2008 at 00:11
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ziggystardust360
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Posted: July 25 2008 at 22:56 |
You have a point there Ivan.
But I still strongly support her being added to Archives in Prog Related like I requested.''O Superman'' for example has prog elements.And not just that really all of her albums have Prog related qualities.
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Easy Money
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Posted: July 25 2008 at 23:11 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
"O lovely pussy! Pussy my love!<pre ="lyric">What a wonderful pussy you are."Laurie AndersonIt's really in the lyrics...
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Nice try Slarti, but my opinion is unchanged, ha ha.
Didn't Laurie steal those lines from that Madonna sex book.
Apparently Laurie tried to get Don Van Vleit (Beefheart) to guest on one of her records, but he turned her down saying something about beware of women with violins. I don't know what he meant, but I always thought it sounded funny.
Edited by Easy Money - July 25 2008 at 23:40
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 26 2008 at 00:10 |
Easy Money wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
"O lovely pussy! Pussy my
love!<pre ="lyric">What a wonderful pussy you are."Laurie
AndersonIt's really in the lyrics...
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Nice try Slarti, but my opinion is unchanged, ha ha.
Didn't Laurie steal those lines from that Madonna sex book.
Apparently Laurie tried to get Don Van Vleit (Beefheart) to guest
on one of her records, but he turned her down saying something about
beware of women with violins. I don't know what he meant, but I always
thought it sounded funny. |
I might be wrong, but I think
Beautiful Pea Green Boat from Bright Red predated Madonna's book.
Never heard about the Beefheart thingy. Was that before or after
William Burroughs?
By the way fellow Anderson fans, if you look at the collage in my
signature, towards the middle, at the top middle of the shelving unit
at the bottom, is my box set of United States Live!
Edited by Slartibartfast - July 26 2008 at 01:42
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Logan
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Posted: July 26 2008 at 00:36 |
ziggystardust360 wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
As usual I'll be the devil's advocate.
I bought Live at Town Hall NYC with great expectations, and found
nothing remootely related with Prog, yes she's far beyond most
mainstream artists, yes her music is weird (Mostly because the strange
arrangements) but I find a very basic and simple structure.
Later bought "Home of the Brave" and my impression was reinforced. simple music with weird ornaments, nothing else.
I believe it's a mistake to add every weird artist just because they are weird.
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''Home of The Brave'' is very prog,IMO.
''Big Science'' is really her defining moment and ''Mister Heartbreak''.
She is quite experimental. |
I'll quote a bit of what I wrote on page one when i revived this topic in October (sorry quoting myself but it's easier than rewriting old thoughts).
Logan wrote:
...She's an amazing, quirky performance artist. She's not
really progressive rock of course -- she is an experimental avant garde
"art music" artist and a kind of "pop culture" icon. Has been resident artist at NASA I recall and helped with the Athens Olympic ceremonies Not pop
music, but she had interesting commentary on culture and development.
Big Science was about technological effect. Love to see her here,
but could understand the rejection.
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As this site has increasingly progressed from "Progressive Rock", I
suspect there now may be more tolerance for truly progressive artists
such as Laurie Anderson.
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I'd rather describe her as quirky than weird, but maybe that's because like the word "eccentric" it has more a positive connotation for me. I don't think of her as Prog -- progressive, yes, but not Prog. Structurally, she has something in common with various minimalist composers. I feel she has a place in PA in Prog Related even if she doesn't fit the definition there well. I think she has an approach that partially puts her in the camp of art rock artists, and I think she has something in common with various progressive electronic artists,as well a some in prog related. Not all are complex. I think her compostions can seem deceptively simple. She's also something of an inventor , but that's by-the-by. I wish I still had Home of the Brave. On page one I provided a link to a stream of Big Science -- okay it is simple.. Her songs can build and evolve in interesting ways. I find her approach to composition intriguing. And yes, her quirkiness counts for a lot in terms of my interest. It's far more than simple music with weird ornaments to me. She was also innovative and experimental, which makes her progressiveness, but, no, not really prog. I see the boundaries expanding on what is prog anyway. Okay, she's no Edgar Froese, but interesting in her own right, and I think she could considerable appeal to quite a few of those into progressive electronic, and certain art rock artists. Prog Related feels right to me.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 26 2008 at 01:41 |
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I'd put the Life On A String album up as exhibit number one of her worthiness of inclusion. It's a little hoakey in parts, yet many brilliant and beautiful moments in it as well.
My favorite parts, the violn/cello/bass track Here With You that precedes Slip Away and of course Slip Away, itself:
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What's this? A little dust in my eye
Well I'm not the type to cry
It's four a.m. I'm standing by the bed where you lie
Sleeping the sleep of the newborn
I put [my] finger to your lips. Warm air.
Five a.m. You lift your hand and open it.
Then you slipped away. You slipped away.
Oh death, that creep, that crooked jerk...
He comes, he comes walking. He comes sneaking
Down that long irreversible hallway
Grabs you in your sleep
I walk outside to the parking lot.
Bright coins of water on the sidewalk.
Big white building where your body lies
Stands in the middle of the fields. Icy air.
And after all the shocks the way the heart unlocks
And ooo we slip away. We slip away.
I'm thinking about the way that lost things always come back
Looking like something else
A fishing pole, a shoe, an old shirt, a lucky day
Ooo then they slip away into the remains of the day
Ooo they slip away. They slip away.
I'm thinking how you taught me how to win
And how to loose
And how to fight the crippling blues that I was born with
Bad dreams and nightmares
Ooo they slip away. Ooo they slip away into the remains of the day.
I know that sometime I'll stop looking for you.
Stop seeing your face every day
Bad dreams and nightmares and big bad wolves
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You told me you had no idea how to die but I saw
The way the light left your eyes
And after all the shocks the way the heart unlocks
And ooo then you slipped away. You slipped away."
The song Life On A String is interesting too:
"..
Some people know exactly where they're going
The pilgrims to Mecca
The climbers to the mountaintop
But me, I'm just looking
For just a single moment
So I can slip through time..."
Edited by Slartibartfast - July 26 2008 at 01:44
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