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Captain Fudge
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Topic: First prog epic ever? Posted: March 11 2005 at 08:51 |
Yeah, I say it's Jimi Hendrix's 1983, A Merman I Should Turn To Be
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Epic. Simply epic.
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: March 11 2005 at 08:56 |
Berlioz - Symphonie Fantasique, 1830
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 11 2005 at 10:04 |
Dragon, thats far too clever and high brow for a Friday afternoon..![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
I'm going for the whole of the 'Days of future passed' suite by The Moody Blues. Whole album concept, themes and reprises of themes, poetry, mellotrons. who could ask for more??
It would be better if it didn't sound like second hand Beatles, I guess, but I love it anyway. ![](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Emperor
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Posted: March 11 2005 at 10:06 |
Among those I know, hear and have: Procol Harum TWAS IN HELD IN I (1968, 17 minutes, great composition!).
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Posted: March 11 2005 at 10:14 |
Days of Future Past is a good thought and as it's both Friday and I'm feeling too lazy to suggest something else....
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Posted: March 11 2005 at 12:34 |
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
Berlioz - Symphonie Fantasique, 1830 |
Indeed, certainly progressive and an epic. But i'm more inclined to say Beethoven's nineth symphony, epic movements centred around the origins and universal position of man. Plus the addition of a coral movement as the finale was a first, and unbelieveabley effective.
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: March 11 2005 at 12:57 |
On the other hand I absolutely hate Beethoven IX. Go figure.
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Posted: March 12 2005 at 15:13 |
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
On the other hand I absolutely hate Beethoven IX. Go figure. |
You wouldn't believe how much i hear that. ![](smileys/smiley19.gif)
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Captain Fudge
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Posted: March 13 2005 at 09:04 |
Vivaldi was compared with Pink Floyd. i mean, they say he was the pink Floyd of his age.
So most songs by him (The Seasons tetralogy is absolutely awesome) are progressive![](smileys/smiley9.gif)
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Teenage sucks hard -- Emo sucks even harder
Epic. Simply epic.
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Posted: March 13 2005 at 10:21 |
Just put Rick Wakeman in front of a pipe organ, take out the synthesisers and we have something which will closely resemble Bach's organ works, 'Toccata and Fuge in D Minor' is very much the same as 'Jane Seymore'.
Shame, Bach never wore a shiney cape.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: March 13 2005 at 10:48 |
Captain Fudge wrote:
Yeah, I say it's Jimi Hendrix's 1983, A Merman I Should Turn To Be![](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
As far as I know Hendrix was still dead in 1983, or am I missing something?![Confused](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
I agree with Emperor, "In held Twas in I".
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Posted: March 13 2005 at 10:48 |
I'd say it was the 96 hours symphonic epic "Hrrrrrgh an Grrrrr" by the late Boolboo:
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(The late Boolboo: master of bone-n-egg-flute, inventor of 'Neandertronics', the 34-tones-chord and beat poetry, good skull drummer btw.)
He refused to be AOR in any way and swiftly became the musical rebel of his time. His massive creative output included the stunning 96 hours epic "Hrrrrrgh an Grrrrr" performed with human bones and 17 ostrich eggs on a hilltop, a breathtaking masterpiece which alienated him from the masses in his home valley as it just wasn't accessible enough. His small but loyal fan base comprised a horde of college apes with acquired taste and an interest in atonal experiments. At the end of his career, 6 months before his death at the age of 27, even his most loyal fans ceased to applaud as his new compositions had begun to copy his classics: He became a sad derivative cover version of himself. Three years after his death his son Zank Frappa used his father's bones to perform a shorter version of "Hrrrrrgh an Grrrrr" (single edit) in a pig pit. It became an instant hit in the neighbour valley and dominated the dance floors for no less than 2 months.
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: March 13 2005 at 10:50 |
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Posted: March 13 2005 at 11:07 |
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Posted: March 13 2005 at 11:23 |
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richardh
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Posted: March 14 2005 at 16:49 |
Miaugion wrote:
I'd say it was the 96 hours symphonic epic "Hrrrrrgh an Grrrrr" by the late Boolboo:
![](http://www.bbc.co.uk/beasts/evidence/prog6/images/evi_neanderthal_large.jpg)
(The late Boolboo: master of bone-n-egg-flute, inventor of 'Neandertronics', the 34-tones-chord and beat poetry, good skull drummer btw.)
He refused to be AOR in any way and swiftly became the musical rebel of his time. His massive creative output included the stunning 96 hours epic "Hrrrrrgh an Grrrrr" performed with human bones and 17 ostrich eggs on a hilltop, a breathtaking masterpiece which alienated him from the masses in his home valley as it just wasn't accessible enough. His small but loyal fan base comprised a horde of college apes with acquired taste and an interest in atonal experiments. At the end of his career, 6 months before his death at the age of 27, even his most loyal fans ceased to applaud as his new compositions had begun to copy his classics: He became a sad derivative cover version of himself. Three years after his death his son Zank Frappa used his father's bones to perform a shorter version of "Hrrrrrgh an Grrrrr" (single edit) in a pig pit. It became an instant hit in the neighbour valley and dominated the dance floors for no less than 2 months.
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That brings up images of Raquel Welch dancing at the front of the stage.....................topless preferably.![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Guillermo
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Posted: March 14 2005 at 16:57 |
Emperor wrote:
Among those I know, hear and have: Procol Harum TWAS IN HELD IN I (1968, 17 minutes, great composition!).
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Yes. Maybe it was the first Prog Epic. But The Moody Blues` 1967 "Days of Future Passed" album :is it a continuous piece of music, or it was the first Prog conceptual album? I don`t have the Moody Blues` album, but I listened to it once in the Radio and I can`t remember anything from it apart from "Nights in White Satin".
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Posted: March 14 2005 at 17:01 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Captain Fudge wrote:
Yeah, I say it's Jimi Hendrix's 1983, A Merman I Should Turn To Be![](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
As far as I know Hendrix was still dead in 1983, or am I missing something?![Confused](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
I agree with Emperor, "In held Twas in I".
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Yes. Hendrix died in 1970. But that song"1983...", is in his double L.P. album called "Electric Ladyland", recorded in 1968, his last with The Jimi Hendrix Experience (Hendrix/Mitch Mitchell/Noel Redding). I listened to this song a long time ago, and I can`t remember anything about it.
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Emperor
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Posted: March 15 2005 at 09:07 |
Guillermo wrote:
Emperor wrote:
Among those I know, hear and have: Procol Harum TWAS IN HELD IN I (1968, 17 minutes, great composition!).
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Yes. Maybe it was the first Prog Epic. But The Moody Blues` 1967 "Days of Future Passed" album :is it a continuous piece of music, or it was the first Prog conceptual album? I don`t have the Moody Blues` album, but I listened to it once in the Radio and I can`t remember anything from it apart from "Nights in White Satin".
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Nigts In White Satin is amazingly nice track! But except it and the 1986 album by Moody Blues (not impressive at all) I still never heard something by the band... ![](smileys/smiley18.gif)
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Emperor
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Posted: March 15 2005 at 09:08 |
What about Floyd's INTERSTELLAR OVERDRIVE (1967)? ![](smileys/smiley2.gif) It seems like instrumental epic... And maybe even Beatles's A DAY IN THE LIFE (1967) too!
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