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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 18:09
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

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Nektar...
 
That's right! I really liked Evolution, but I was somewhat disappointed with Book Of Days. For how long were they away from the music industry?

21 years, holy cow!
Book is actually my fave of the new three.
 
I really should listen to Book Of Days some more, I only just got it last week. Maybe it will grow on me. But my first impression was that it isn't as good as Evolution. But then again I was quite impressed with Evolution!! I have not yet heard The Prodigal Son, is it any good?
 
21 years away from the music biz and then making albums like these is quite amazing
 
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I'd rate Prodigal as a third. There's currently two DVDs out that are quite good.  I saw them on the Evolution tour with Caravan.  Verry nice. Big smile

I've reviewed about everything except for Book for what it's worth.

 
I ordered a Nektar DVD last week called Pure. I'm really looking forward to seeing it, the set list is very interesting! I will check out Prodigal Son too, sometime. Thanks for the tip!
 
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Thanks for reminding me about Proto-Kaw! I am a Kansas-fan but I have yet to hear the Proto-Kaw albums. I knew that something good would come from creating this thread Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 18:33
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 01:51
Happy the Man did not release anything new between 1979 and 2004.  Both Beginnings and Death's Crown were apparently old recordings released many years later.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 02:13
Alquin released a new album in 2006, 29 years after they broke up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 02:27
Please don't just list band names here. Try to offer a commnetary on the comeback and why it might be considered "great" and "unlikely".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 06:47
Well, what made Nektar's comeback so good was that they (and by "they" I mean Roye Albrighton, the guitarist and core of the band) jettisoned comercialitis and started making fresh progressive music.  Get any of the live DVDs and they haven't abandoned the old progressive stuff.

By the way, also a big fan of Happy The Man.  After their comeback they seem to have fizzled out.  Damn shame because The Muse Awakens was quite good from a progressive perspective.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 08:49
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Well, what made Nektar's comeback so good was that they (and by "they" I mean Roye Albrighton, the guitarist and core of the band) jettisoned comercialitis and started making fresh progressive music.  Get any of the live DVDs and they haven't abandoned the old progressive stuff.

By the way, also a big fan of Happy The Man.  After their comeback they seem to have fizzled out.  Damn shame because The Muse Awakens was quite good from a progressive perspective.
If I am not mistaked some of the Happy The Man band members went on to form Oblivion Sun, who released a pretty good debut album in a similar vein.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 09:30
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Well, what made Nektar's comeback so good was that they (and by "they" I mean Roye Albrighton, the guitarist and core of the band) jettisoned comercialitis and started making fresh progressive music.  Get any of the live DVDs and they haven't abandoned the old progressive stuff.

By the way, also a big fan of Happy The Man.  After their comeback they seem to have fizzled out.  Damn shame because The Muse Awakens was quite good from a progressive perspective.
If I am not mistaked some of the Happy The Man band members went on to form Oblivion Sun, who released a pretty good debut album in a similar vein.


NEAR as I can tell, Keith Macksoud and Eric Slick were never in HTM...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 14:56
We've had a progressive comeback period here in Holland.
 
Kayak came with a finished version of the "Merlin"-concept. A whole lot of live shows and other records. "Close to the Fire" and  "Merlin - Bard of the Unseen" are great progressive albums!
Supersister came with the live dvd Supersisterious
Focus plays live again, with a great new guitarist (still we miss Akkerman a bit)
Alquin plays live again
 
Who would have thought that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 19:31
Originally posted by kingfriso kingfriso wrote:

We've had a progressive comeback period here in Holland.
 
Kayak came with a finished version of the "Merlin"-concept. A whole lot of live shows and other records. "Close to the Fire" and  "Merlin - Bard of the Unseen" are great progressive albums!
Supersister came with the live dvd Supersisterious
Focus plays live again, with a great new guitarist (still we miss Akkerman a bit)
Alquin plays live again
 
Who would have thought that?
 
Kayak's Close To The Fire is great! Clap
 
Focus 8 is good too!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 19:35
Sabbath-Ozzy album please....

Unlikely because of DIO  being in the band now, and Ozzy dealing with his so-so solo career....
Great because it's the real SabbathWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 20:25
Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by kingfriso kingfriso wrote:

We've had a progressive comeback period here in Holland.
 
Kayak came with a finished version of the "Merlin"-concept. A whole lot of live shows and other records. "Close to the Fire" and  "Merlin - Bard of the Unseen" are great progressive albums!
Supersister came with the live dvd Supersisterious
Focus plays live again, with a great new guitarist (still we miss Akkerman a bit)
Alquin plays live again
 
Who would have thought that?
 
Kayak's Close To The Fire is great! Clap
 
Focus 8 is good too!

The last new Kayak I got was the Merlin DVD.  Was a bit disappointing.  Love Kayak though.  Should I give new Kayak another try?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 03:14
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by kingfriso kingfriso wrote:

We've had a progressive comeback period here in Holland.
 
Kayak came with a finished version of the "Merlin"-concept. A whole lot of live shows and other records. "Close to the Fire" and  "Merlin - Bard of the Unseen" are great progressive albums!
Supersister came with the live dvd Supersisterious
Focus plays live again, with a great new guitarist (still we miss Akkerman a bit)
Alquin plays live again
 
Who would have thought that?
 
Kayak's Close To The Fire is great! Clap
 
Focus 8 is good too!

The last new Kayak I got was the Merlin DVD.  Was a bit disappointing.  Love Kayak though.  Should I give new Kayak another try?
 
I don't know about Merlin, I haven't heard that one yet. But Close To The Fire is in my opinion far better than the band's early albums Shocked It is also quite different from the early ones. Andy Latimer from Camel adds some great guitar to a couple of songs! The title-track is available for free listening here on PA. It's the best and most progressive song from the album.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 03:19
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Sabbath-Ozzy album please....

Unlikely because of DIO  being in the band now, and Ozzy dealing with his so-so solo career....
Great because it's the real SabbathWink
 
I was thinking of unlikely come-backs that actually did happen Tongue
 
Black Sabbath is one of my favourite bands, but I doubt that they could ever do another good album together with Ozzy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 10:14
Hi,
 
I'm not exactly enamored with rehashes of the old music ... that is not to say that I would not want to see them at all ... and I have seen a few ... but you want me to be honest? There is only one I was extremely proud to see ... only one!
 
MAGMA (1999 in SF at the Progressive Music Festival) 
 
... and everyone else felt like a nostalgia trip down memory lane.
 
Here are some examples:
 
Gong - Way too sad and missing that "3rd dimention" (as I call it) ... in 97 when they came through here with Pierre, they had a really good low end that made the rock music in their repertoire stand out quite well ... but the 2 other times it felt like a small band and we had to fantasize and imagine the "trip" ... and the music was not any better in my book. Still love them and Daevid was excellent and Mike was in his usual outstanding shape, and Gilli ... but ... it lacked heart.
 
Damo Suzuki - With a band that allowed him to do his own thing, but in may ways I really felt that the musicality and musical ability of this band was so far inferior to the original that the music almost sounded like it was hoping to be noticed or understood ... it was a noisy chuck berry (so to speak) to my ear of you will. And that was sad ... good versions of Mushroom and a couple of other things, but in general ... really sad ... very sad ... and not sounding good at all.
 
Brand X - Sounded ok. Maybe it was the drummer or just the combination ... it sounded way too metronomic for my ears and it was not enjoyable like the originality of the albums ... it was a bit too mechanical for my tastes.
 
Amon Duul 2 - My favorite band of all. None of them was ever more insipiring and creative and experimental and blew out the lights at the same time, and could create as good a lyric as Jim Morrison ... and be wayyyyyy more relevant than so many ... but the recordings around them other than "Live in London" are for the most part really sad and lacking ... it's not even the recording ... it's the rest. There are way too many bootlegs of so many bands where they sounded way good in those days ... even in an off day ... but the later rehashes sound tired and in fact aound exhausted! And that is so sad ... even an accoustic version of Apocalyptic Bore would sound better! Or Mozambique ... albeit today the white beast is aids, not the other one!
 
....
 
The other side of the coin are the folks that kept growing and it doesn't matter if you saw tham 35 years ago or not ...
 
Klaus Schulze is as good today as he ever was ... and you only have to see the Rheingold DVD to realize ... this is unreal! ...
 
Tangerine Dream is as good today as they ever were, even if I wish that Edgar was more patient and allowed the music to fly a littile past a guitar lead ...
 
Mike Oldfield is still out there and as relevant as he ever was -- and sometimes even more beautiful if that is possible ...
 
Vangelis is as sweet and powerful as he ever was even if Irene Pappas is occasionally replaced by a soprano opera singer that blows your ears away and sounds as pretty as Renata Tebaldi, Maria Callas or Birgit Nilsson ever did! You can't ask for more or better ... it is better than Jon Anderson doing the singing!
 
Zappa plays Zappa --- even though this is the son, the quality is now better than ever ... let's say that it has softened up a little over the years. If you have not seen this ... you will never understand why FZ is so important to so many musicians out there ... and why so many of the prog bands like him, and often pay homage to him in subtle ways.
 
You really know how simple some music is ... I mean ... an Eric Clapton is easy to sound the "same" today as he did years ago ... a Gong is not unless Tim Blake and Stiv Hillage are there making sure that the sound is complete ... and so few bands know how to translate their material so that they could do something different with it ...a veritable "unplugged" ... that would help these folks shine ... can you imagine King Crimson unplugged? It would sound like sh*t! And ELP ... I cringe at the thought!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 10:45
Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by kingfriso kingfriso wrote:

We've had a progressive comeback period here in Holland.
 
Kayak came with a finished version of the "Merlin"-concept. A whole lot of live shows and other records. "Close to the Fire" and  "Merlin - Bard of the Unseen" are great progressive albums!
Supersister came with the live dvd Supersisterious
Focus plays live again, with a great new guitarist (still we miss Akkerman a bit)
Alquin plays live again
 
Who would have thought that?
 
Kayak's Close To The Fire is great! Clap
 
Focus 8 is good too!

The last new Kayak I got was the Merlin DVD.  Was a bit disappointing.  Love Kayak though.  Should I give new Kayak another try?
 
I don't know about Merlin, I haven't heard that one yet. But Close To The Fire is in my opinion far better than the band's early albums Shocked It is also quite different from the early ones. Andy Latimer from Camel adds some great guitar to a couple of songs! The title-track is available for free listening here on PA. It's the best and most progressive song from the album.
 
 
 
When Kayak had a new start they first made the fine Close to the Fire. Then they came with Nightvision, of wich only the first two tracks are good... it's a pitty. Then came Merlin (wich I find one of the finest recordings ever, I also like the dvd very much). After that we have Nostradamus wich I partly liked. I will never understand why some people don't like Merlin... it's fantastic! My favourite Kayakperiod is still the first one. The first four albums are great!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 11:32
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Nektar...


FTW. I would love to see them tour more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 11:36
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
! And ELP ... I cringe at the thought!


I for one would love to see ELP tour with just a piano,simple drum kit,acoustic guitar and upright bass. I would love to see what they could do with a simple fresh approach. No egos. No bloated stage set up. Just simple straight forward music of their songs redone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2009 at 18:47
I wonder why no-one mentioned the reunion of VdGG in 2005 after 27 years.


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