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    Posted: September 15 2005 at 21:38

Hi! I'm KEVO of Dark Victory. We are a hard rock/prog band. I'm the lead singer and play keys. I am of African descent (by way of Pennsylvania!)  and was surprised to see that David Sancious and Tone were not included in the A - Z list of prog acts.

I am the first to admit that there doesn't seem to be a lot of black prog acts around. I dunno why. I grew up listening to Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Genesis and me and my other proggy black friends would listen to and discuss how great these bands were.  Yes is still my all time favorite band.

Check out Dark Victory at ampcast.com/darkvictory.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 21:42

Doug Pinnick of King's X is the only person I can think of off the top of my head, though some here would argue that King's X is not prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 21:44
Originally posted by pogoowner pogoowner wrote:

Doug Pinnick of King's X is the only person I can think of off the top of my head, though some here would argue that King's X is not prog.

Who cares if King's X is prog or not,they are really good,I enjoy their music.That's all that counts.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 21:47
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 21:48

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 21:49

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 22:03
Originally posted by pogoowner pogoowner wrote:

Doug Pinnick of King's X is the only person I can think of off the top of my head, though some here would argue that King's X is not prog.

Speaking of Prog Bands that have an 'X' Planet X

Guitarist- cant think of his name right now.....anyways- love seeing black dudes in bands- I think it kicks ass. (im white)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 22:09
Okay. thanx everybody for your posts. has anyone out there heard of David Sancious and Tone?  David is a great keyboardist and guitarist. he was the first keyboardist for Springsteen's E Street Band and then went on his own.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 22:13
No I havent- tell me about them...........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 22:15

 

Blacks are wonderful musicians and are welcome in progressive rock, unless of course they won't start creating progressive hiphop or progressive reggae. Well as long, as hiphop or reggae are not dominant tone...

About David Sancious And Tone not being included - maybe it waited for you to fill that gap and make an article about them. We will be glad to know if they are any good - the more good prog acts the better!!

yet you still have time!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 22:18

Rafe, you are of course KIDDING about the hip hop thing...at least I hope you are.

here are a few of the albums from the 70's.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 22:27
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by pogoowner pogoowner wrote:

Doug Pinnick of King's X is the only person I can think of off the top of my head, though some here would argue that King's X is not prog.

Who cares if King's X is prog or not,they are really good,I enjoy their music.That's all that counts.

Yes, hahaha! King's X is awesome and prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 22:36
There has got to be more than ones we've listed.....surely
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 22:39
Many incarnations of Zappa's band?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 22:54
Originally posted by KEVO KEVO wrote:

Hi! I'm KEVO of Dark Victory. We are a hard rock/prog band. I'm the lead singer and play keys. I am of African descent (by way of Pennsylvania!)  and was surprised to see that David Sancious and Tone were not included in the A - Z list of prog acts.

I am the first to admit that there doesn't seem to be a lot of black prog acts around. I dunno why. I grew up listening to Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Genesis and me and my other proggy black friends would listen to and discuss how great these bands were.  Yes is still my all time favorite band.

Check out Dark Victory at ampcast.com/darkvictory.

Why is race even an issue?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 23:31

Trust me when I tell you that I have a lot more problems with blacks than whites when it comes to the music i listen to. it's an issue for me because as a prog lover I have to deal with people who don't believe that I should be into it.

Since you probably don't have to deal with these issues, it's not a problem for you.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 23:33

Unfortunately,you're right about the low number of blacks in this particular genre,unless you count a handful of members in Zappa's band over the years.And as another poster suggested,we're represented in all the classic fusion bands.And to me,fusion is just another form of prog anyway.Because it's not "jazz" enough for jazz snobs and it's TOO "jazzy" for many rock-n-rollers.But that's a whole 'nother rant...

You've got me very curious about David Sancious and Tone.I'll have to check their stuff out.

But the race thing doesn't really bother me too much.I'm proud of my fish-outta-water status...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 23:38
Then we must convert the singer of thin lizzy to prog
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 23:41

Welcome to the party Jango!  I'm proud of being what and who I am and I love my prog; always have and always will! Besides being the lead singer of Dark Victory I also am pursing a solo career here in St Louis (not exactly a prog hotbed!).

Do you know of a place I can post a couple of my more proggy original pieces?

the following albums are probably the best of David Sancious and Tone...

David Sancious & Tone*

TRUE STORIES - Arista AB 4201 Compacet Disc released 2002 (1978)

Sound of Love (5:22)
Move On (4:41)
Prelude #3 (4:08)
On The Inside (1:58)
Fade Away (4:58)
Ever The Same (7:04)
Interlude (2:19)
Matter Of Time (9:52)

 


David Sancious

JUST AS I THOUGHT - Arista AB 4247 Compacet Disc released 2002 (1979)

Run (3:07)
Just As I Thought (1:27)
Again (5:11)
The Naked I (2:38)
Valley Of The Shadow (5:48)
Suite (For The End Of An Age) (8:05)
Remember (1:20)
And Then She Said (4:53)
Again (Part II) (3:09)

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2005 at 23:42

Chester Thompson was in Zappa and Genesis.

Victor Wooten and his borther Roy (Future Man) Wooten of Bela Fleck and the Flecktones have played in various prog related projects.

Some of the soul singers in Pink Floyd were black.

I can't think of any others.

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