Megadeth - Prog Related

I was wondering why there is Metallica to be found in the Prog related sub-genre, but not their rivlas Megadeth with Dave Mustaine as front man. I actually moved to prog after listening to very much speed and thrash metal and can say that Megadeth is much more proggier than Metallica, even if it's not prog entirely. If you don't believe me listen to tracks like: My Last Words, In My Darkest Hour or Holy Wars.. Punishment Due. The latter is actually two songs in one, with the same concept but different solo passages and melodies, which in my opinion is very prog related. Don't get me wrong, Megadeth isn't real prog, but much more prog related than Metallica in my opinion. 

I don't know.  If Megadeth get in, people will argue why isn't Testament in, why isn't (slightly-progressive thrash band) in.  A very touchy area.  I think some bands similar in style like Nevermore have been rejected already. 

But, then again, prog-related isn't prog, so either way I guess. 

And what about the many, many PROG bands who would need this site's support, and are kept out by people who seem to worry about adding as many prog-related bands as they can think of? Do any of you realize that other prog sites have already added and reviewed those bands, while on the 'ultimate prog source' people are tearing each other apart over The Stranglers, Angel, Megadeth, and even Dragonforce?

Edited by TheSubhuman - August 10 2009 at 16:36

^^ Agreed!

Edited by AmericanProgster - August 10 2009 at 16:44

This is going to get niiiice and bloody

*prepares a splatter tarp*

TheSubhuman wrote: And what about the many, many PROG bands who would need this site's support, and are kept out by people who seem to worry about adding as many prog-related bands as they can think of? Do any of you realize that other prog sites have already added and reviewed those bands, while on the 'ultimate prog source' people are tearing each other apart over The Stranglers, Angel, Megadeth, and even Dragonforce?

I tend to think of the early music of bands like Iron Maiden,Metallica,Megadeth etc. more like Proto Prog Metal than Prog Related.But that's just me.

TheProgtologist wrote: With the addition of Metallica I think Megadeth definitely belong here.Rust in Peace is a classic and is just as "proto-proggy" as Master of Puppets and And Justice For All.

Agreed. While I still think that Master of Puppets was much more important/influential for Prog Metal than Rust in Peace, I think that they should be here - if only for the sake of completion. I don't think that we should add all metal bands that got a bit more technical in the 80s ... but the most important ones in relation to Prog Metal, and IMO  Megadeth are easily in the top 5.

BTW: It's not too late to create a "Proto Prog Metal" category ...


Edited by Mr ProgFreak - August 11 2009 at 01:31

As an outside observer (I don't care at all about the suggestion, or the music we're talking about), I can only say: Wow! That "don't suggest Y just because X is here" rule sure works. At full capacity. 

Eh, I'll put in my 2 cents, since you guys are probably expecting me too anyway (at least the longer term members that know me, heh).
Megadeth has what it takes to be put under a "Proto Prog Metal" category if it ever existed, but we know that isn't happening any time soo. Megadeth has been massively influential on prog metal and dare I say to it's development.
Better musicianship? Easily. When Kirk Hammett is in your band, you lose about 1000 musicianship points.
Sorry Kirk, but your solos are disgustingly sh*t for the most part. No sense of rhythm, horribly phrasing most of the time, some really horrible note choice at times and the worst vibrato in heavy metal lead guitar, period.
Even Dave Mustaine actually has decent vibrato, although I don't think he's a great soloist anyway.
Megadeth had Marty Friedman, Chris Poland and now Chris Broderick, Metallica were not going to be able to compete with that lead guitar wise, those guys are leagues ahead of Kirk.
Riff wise, I learnt my thrash metal chops playing both Metallica and Megadeth. The Megadeth riffs were harder to play on average, easily.
So in terms of technicality, it's easy Megadeth is way ahead.

Composition? Sorry guys, but I gotta hand it to Metallica for being more instrumental in the development of progressive metal composition.
Metallica had 3 albums, to my mind, that feature material that shows clear links to the development of prog metal. I just don't think Megadeth's material is proggy enough to make the cut, even if it is better to listen to for me personally.
Megadeth only had one in terms of the composition side of things, that being Rust In Peace and even then less than half the songs are really prog related-metal songs.
In My Darkest Hour and Tornado of Souls always struck me as the two most defining "prog metal" pieces from Megadeth. The way the riffs develop are done in a prog metal style to me.


Edited by Petrovsk Mizinski - August 11 2009 at 06:17