Jimi Hendrix

Anyone remember Robert Fripp saying that he imagined King Crimson to be 'what Hendrix would sound like playing Bartok.' Hard to say there wasn't some influence.

But then again, by that logic, anyone important in developing the blues tradition could also be considered influential...

So I guess this is just trivia :-)

Those points have, as far as I am concerned, little to do with the compositional structures, the music itself, in Prog. It was also Eric Clapton who first used distortion in popular music, and I'm sure he might have changed between rhythm guitar and soloing before Hendrix did aswell. Regarding the stage performances, I can hardly see what impact they have on the music. The use of wah-wah can hardly be used as an arguement, because the wah-wah pedal is an accessory for electric guitar. It's a bit like saying that the first major artist using Fender amps in the early 50's influenced prog, because Steve Howe used Fender amps. It doesn't really work out in my mind.

You have, however, one point that is more reasonable than the others, the one about Hendrix influencing people to create strange sounds with the guitar. However, during that time, there was much psychedelic experimentation in music, and I don't think Hendrix is the sole source. I also think that this arguement suggests that we could also consider Electric Blues artists of the '50s such as Muddy Waters or B.B. King as Proto-Prog, since they often used extensive soloing on the guitar in their music, a form of playing that is also found in Prog.


Edited by Philéas - August 13 2006 at 07:23

Ok, so let's get back on topic!

erik neuteboom wrote: Many progrock guitarplayers are influenced by the late Jimi Hendrix, I presume these guitarplayers has put that influence in their music so to me it sounds reasonable to conclude that Jimi Hendrix was very influential to progrock ...

I again ask you where you hear Hendrix in any Prog song. In all the Prog I've heard, I haven't heard one single direct influence from Hendrix. If you provide me with evidence that he was a major influence on the developement of the classic Progressive Rock sound, I will consider changing my mind.

The arguement you're using suggests that Hendrix is proto everything, not only Prog. You say he has influenced practically every guitarist, in that case you'd have to name him even as Proto-Pop (Pop, of course, referring to post-1970 Pop) to some degree, as there are Pop guitarists influenced by him. I'm sure one could somehow trace his influences as far as rap or electronica or other guitarless genres with this attitude. We need to draw the line somewhere.

Poor you Micky, perhaps a misplaced childhood could have tributed to some magic !

Did you know that when Jimi lost his mother (alcoholic, destroyed liver) when he was 12, the guitar became a substitute. Even when he went to the toilet the guitar was with him and he also imitated every sound with his guitar.

Philéas wrote: erik neuteboom wrote: I have created an own subgenre entitled Prog Andaluz but it's rejected while we are still looking at subgenres like Raga-/Indo-rock on Prog Archives, very confusing  .. I haven't heard any Spanish prog, but judging from the close relation to the folk music (flamenco) people seem to have down there, I'm sure that there is a particular style of prog in Andalusia, and in Spain in general. I'm all for that new subgenre!

oh man... talk to Erik.... the man has some great suggestions... I reviewed one he suggested to me by Mezquita.. WOW!  You'll love it.. trust me...

Ghost Rider wrote: micky wrote: Dr4Wazo wrote: and what about Peter Frampton hhahah... he did do a double live album.... more prog in that alone than Hendrix has Oh no, that too... Are there no limits to your skeletons in the closet? BTW, as much as I like Hendrix's output, I don't think he should be added to PA. If we're looking for influential guitarists whose output can (at least in part) considered prog, we should look to Jeff Beck. "Blow by Blow" is a jazz-rock masterpiece of the first order!

damn right partner...  and no.. there are NO limits to the skeletons in my closet.... unless you are just referring to my choices in music...

Progressive is not the same as Prog Rock.

Jimi Hendrix was a minor influence on some Krautrock bands - but hardly influenced Prog Rock as a genre at all.

He's not even Prog-related.
    

He's maybe the best guitarist ever and I enjoy his music a lot.  But I don't find it to be Prog, neither he had so much influence on pure Prog artists.

Edited by Barla - August 12 2006 at 17:10

Evans wrote: What, you want your own sub-genre? :)

Let's start a poll: "Should Erik get his own subgenre?"

-So. What kind of prog is your favourite?
-I've always liked erik neuteboom prog