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Icarium
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Topic: Robert Wyatt influenced post rock Posted: December 16 2014 at 17:41 |
I have been thinking during this time when i have spun Rock Bottom and other Wyatt groups or solo albums, hes instrumentation and how the songs develops is similar to mmany post rock i have listend to, Talk Talk seems influenced by Wyatt, yet I also hear an atmosphere in Wyatts music i also can hear in post-rock, a sort of delicate touch.
I find Wyatts approach to song writing very refreshing, hes way of constructing songs combining beauty and wierd is almost unmatched, hes unwillingness to play safe yet stoakly has 'catchy' phraces and textures of tastfullness sprinkled over is hjust wonderfull, very adventourus and brave music.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 17:44 |
Talk Talk and Wyatt? Interesting. I do feel a resemblance now that you mentioned it. Talk Talk is super underrated, IMHO.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 17:47 |
Talk Talk's last 2 albums definitely have that Wyatt jazzy airiness to them.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 17:50 |
^I agree Steve. Whatever happened to Mark Hollis (spelling?) after that?
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 17:57 |
SteveG wrote:
^I agree Steve. Whatever happened to Mark Hollis (spelling?) after that? |
According to his Wikipedia entry, he's retired from the music industry to devote more time to his family. A sad loss for the music world, but I can understand his reasons.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 18:00 |
^Ok, thanks Micky. At least he got out before he went coo coo.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 18:57 |
how he creates floaty atmosphere with organand mellotron + distingt bass guitar and fluid drumming is also a post rock feature.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 21:03 |
Rock Bottom is one of my favorites. Robert Wyatt is very original sounding.
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 00:56 |
hes quite something, i feel hes music is very open, i see few others have that looseness to the form, in terms of what he let hes songs, be filled with, lots of intricate yet delicate, elements, uncompromising, that is why i made the poll with Fripp, as both do not give a toss, about what is expected, they produce music of their own personality, their gravitas is so ingraded in their songs be it original songs or covers.
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Posted: December 18 2014 at 17:08 |
HolyMoly wrote:
Talk Talk's last 2 albums definitely have that Wyatt jazzy airiness to them.
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Loghing Stock is supergood, and it seems quite Wyatt inspired, loose and delicate, like a sufflet.
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Posted: December 18 2014 at 17:54 |
TODDLER wrote:
Rock Bottom is one of my favorites. Robert Wyatt is very original sounding. |
Second that. Consenquently, I think that his music has nothing to do with post-rock. Btw, Robert Wyatt is one of my favourite personalities in rock in general.
Edited by Svetonio - December 19 2014 at 05:21
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Posted: December 19 2014 at 05:24 |
Svetonio wrote:
TODDLER wrote:
Rock Bottom is one of my favorites. Robert Wyatt is very original sounding. |
Second that. Consenquently, I think that his music has nothing to do with post-rock. Btw, Robert Wyatt is one of my favourite personalities in rock in general.
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I do think you misunderstood me, im saying he is influenceual to some post rock bands and to Talk Talk who is famous for making the two first post-rock albums, but I ask the question has Wyatt influenced more post-rock music, is hes way of constructing songs, a pre-courser to what in the 90s became post-rock, a hint of what that were to be. Becouse the instrumentation he use is similar to many post rock i have heard
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Posted: December 19 2014 at 09:49 |
Hi,
In another thread about this, my take on Robert's latest album was very different. I really thought of it as a child's first time on an instrument, and how the adults usually sit around and say ... "how cute" ... and many other endearments, that have less to do with the music, than it does with the person.
That "charm" in Robert's album is rather nice, and the part I liked the most was that when it felt like someone was trying to fall into a melody pattern, it looked like it was broken up on purpose!
To me, Robert is either a clown in music, or he is the Naked Lunch Burroughs of music. Intentionally or not, it is refreshing to see a person that can continually do something different and not be afraid of the usual critics that are always looking for yet another riff and yet another song that remains the same!
I seriously doubt that Robert sits and peruses over the notes of any song and piece he comes up with, though I'm pretty sure that he is thoroughly well educated in music.
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Posted: December 19 2014 at 10:38 |
i agree fullheartedly about what say abour chil-like Mosh, certan willfull naivity or playfullness.
he creates really good melodies.
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Posted: December 19 2014 at 10:49 |
Me too! Great parallel between the clown and good ol Bill. I happen to agree.
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Posted: December 19 2014 at 12:17 |
Icarium wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
TODDLER wrote:
Rock Bottom is one of my favorites. Robert Wyatt is very original sounding. |
Second that. Consenquently, I think that his music has nothing to do with post-rock. Btw, Robert Wyatt is one of my favourite personalities in rock in general.
| I do think you misunderstood me, im saying he is influenceual to some post rock bands and to Talk Talk who is famous for making the two first post-rock albums, but I ask the question has Wyatt influenced more post-rock music, is hes way of constructing songs, a pre-courser to what in the 90s became post-rock, a hint of what that were to be.
Becouse the instrumentation he use is similar to many post rock i have heard
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