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J-Man 
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 Posted: October 29 2009 at 14:27 |
 TheProgtologist wrote:
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The new albums and dvd are now available to order.  |
If only I didn't get the deluxe edition of the new Transatlantic I would have that ordered already 
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 29 2009 at 14:56 |
Dick Heath wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Shaming of the True or Thud are good albums to start with. |
Agree. Also agree these are increasing elusive unless you want to shell out silly money to obtain them. Picked Thud up at Amazon.UK very cheaply 3 years ago (and was surprised to open the envelope and discover a live ep with Kashmir included taped to the CD box) but now see "unobtainable" or a high price second hand there. Also got Toy Matinee very cheap from Amazon, but was dismayed to find I had bought the surround sound version, not playable on a conventional CD player. Bought The Shaming Of The true from via the Kevin Gilbert Estates site also 3 years ago, but see this became unavailable for over a year - although I did read more pressings were being made and now should be available again. I, in part suspect the KG Estates are slow at responding to demand for Gilbert recordings - I suggest their released Thud live recently, to counter a bootlegger offering off-the desk recordings of same for nothing and doing this from early spring 2009. |
I hear you Dick.I was lucky enough to pick up Kevin's cd's a few years ago at really decent prices.
Regarding The Shaming of the True,it is being remastered and will be re-issued soon.
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J-Man
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Posted: October 30 2009 at 16:15 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Dick Heath wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Shaming of the True or Thud are good albums to start with. |
Agree. Also agree these are increasing elusive unless you want to shell out silly money to obtain them. Picked Thud up at Amazon.UK very cheaply 3 years ago (and was surprised to open the envelope and discover a live ep with Kashmir included taped to the CD box) but now see "unobtainable" or a high price second hand there. Also got Toy Matinee very cheap from Amazon, but was dismayed to find I had bought the surround sound version, not playable on a conventional CD player. Bought The Shaming Of The true from via the Kevin Gilbert Estates site also 3 years ago, but see this became unavailable for over a year - although I did read more pressings were being made and now should be available again. I, in part suspect the KG Estates are slow at responding to demand for Gilbert recordings - I suggest their released Thud live recently, to counter a bootlegger offering off-the desk recordings of same for nothing and doing this from early spring 2009. |
I hear you Dick.I was lucky enough to pick up Kevin's cd's a few years ago at really decent prices.
Regarding The Shaming of the True,it is being remastered and will be re-issued soon. |
That's kind of almost odd. I thought the original packaging was great, and the production quality was almost as good as can be. I'm doing some more research to see if it's worth buying... -Jeff
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The Block
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 18:48 |
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Shaming of the True is now the most listened album on my ipod.
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 Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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J-Man
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 18:50 |
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 19:36 |
Suite Fugue is PURE beauty 
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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J-Man
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 19:48 |
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
Suite Fugue is PURE beauty |
You have an opinion on the rest of the album, Gabriel?
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 19:53 |
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^ Excellent as well. But not comparable to this one. It's just perfect. Really GG influenced, in my opinion, but with a more modern touch. Certifiable #1 Smash, City of the Sun, Staring Into Nothing and Best Laid Plans are my favorites.
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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J-Man
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 19:56 |
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
^ Excellent as well. But not comparable to this one. It's just perfect. Really GG influenced, in my opinion, but with a more modern touch. Certifiable #1 Smash, City of the Sun, Staring Into Nothing and Best Laid Plans are my favorites. |
One of the things I love about Shaming is the way it's prog without really trying to be prog. It just is filled with beautiful melodies, and little oddities that make it more than a mainstream album. One of the reasons why it is easily in my top 10 albums of all time is the simple reprise of the first song in the ending. I think it gives a nice book-end feeling to the album, and I always want to hear the album again.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 20:02 |
Jeff says: I've been listening to this album for the 19th time
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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J-Man
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 20:03 |
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
Jeff says: I've been listening to this album for the 19th time |
Oh that's another call, can I call you back John?
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OzzProg
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 20:40 |
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Can anyone explain in more detail what happened in his personal life? All I can find on the internet is very "censored" information. What happened with him and Sheryl Crow? Why did he kill himself? etc...
His music is magic... I own The Shaming of the True, and the 94' ProgFest video...
I almost cry every time I realize that he was shortlisted to be the new Genesis singer, but his manager found him dead when he was going to deliver the news :(
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 13:30 |
Here's a good article that explains the whole Gilbert/Crow relationship.Needless to say she really f**ked Kevin over,and I cannot stand the woman to this day.
Kevin did not kill himself,he was found dead on bed at his home,wearing some fetish gear with a belt looped around his neck and the other end secured to the headboard.The official cause of death is "accidental suicide" but he was really a victim of auto-erotic asphyxiation.I consider that the most tragic part of his life,that his death was so unecessary.
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J-Man
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 14:27 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Here's a good article that explains the whole Gilbert/Crow relationship.Needless to say she really f**ked Kevin over,and I cannot stand the woman to this day.
Kevin did not kill himself,he was found dead on bed at his home,wearing some fetish gear with a belt looped around his neck and the other end secured to the headboard.The official cause of death is "accidental suicide" but he was really a victim of auto-erotic asphyxiation.I consider that the most tragic part of his life,that his death was so unecessary. |
Wow, thanks for posting that, Jody. I just knew he died of an asphyxiation, but I didn't know any of the details.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 16:39 |
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The details aren't nice,but that is how he died,there is no ignoring that fact.A lot of his fans don't like to talk about the circumstances of his death.
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J-Man
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 16:42 |
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I do have a lesser opinion of Sheryl Crow now...
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Roland113
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Posted: December 28 2009 at 13:12 |
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*bump*
So for Christmas this year, I received the "Toy Matinee" CD, I've only listened to it a few times so far but wow, what a great group of songs. I wouldn't refer to the CD as prog, but there are several stand out songs and the whole CD is a good listen.
"The Ballad of Jenny Ledge" and "Last Plane Out" both really stick in my head. I think "Thud" has just jumped to the top of my birthday list.
The more I hear of his work, the more I'm saddened by his death.
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I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.
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The Kevin Gilbert Appreciation Thread
