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Kentucky_Hawkwindage 
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 Topic: BS Technical Ecstasy Vs LZ Presence
Posted: April 18 2014 at 11:27 |
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Here we have 2 controversial albums both released in 1976 by rock giants Black Sabbath & Led Zeppelin. Both albums consistantly get mixed and even bad reviews.I will vote for Black Sabbath TE as i'd rather listen to it song for song.I will say in my opinion that Led Zeps Achilles Last Stand is the best track of either album though.
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"Nobody's Gonna Change My World That's Something To Unreal" Lyrics that i live my life by-from Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy's track You Won't Change Me
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Sagichim
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 11:46 |
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Although Presence has a few killer tracks it's definitely Technical Ecstasy for me, I never thought it was uninspired as people make it to be.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 11:46 |
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Presence is my 2nd favorite Zeppelin album, I've always loved it to bits. I'm fairly new to TE but this is a no-brainer for me.
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Kentucky_Hawkwindage
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 11:49 |
 Sagichim wrote:
Although Presence has a few killer tracks it's definitely Technical Ecstasy for me, I never thought it was uninspired as people make it to be. |
Myself i've enjoyed TE immensley over the years.The album as a very special place in my heart.In fact it's the only picture disc i ever bought.Dirty Women,It's Alright & You Won't Change Me are indeed special links to my past.I'm just now beginning to get into Presence after all these years,but there are only about 4 tracks i can handle at this point.Achilles is awesome though!Tea for One ain't bad either.
Edited by Kentucky_Hawkwindage - April 18 2014 at 11:55
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"Nobody's Gonna Change My World That's Something To Unreal" Lyrics that i live my life by-from Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy's track You Won't Change Me
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sukmytoe
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 11:58 |
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TE is not up to the standard of any of the previous Black Sabbath albums but I've always enjoyed it as it is a good album in any event. TE for me easily.
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Xonty
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 11:59 |
Easily Presence for me. Love the sound and a huge Zep fan  Only really like the early BS albums (pretty much goes downhill chronologically to be honest)
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 12:09 |
HolyMoly wrote:
Presence is my 2nd favorite Zeppelin album, I've always loved it to bits. I'm fairly new to TE but this is a no-brainer for me.
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Yeah I'm with you man. Presence is a classic that just gets better the more I revisit it. To me it is their last worthwhile moment, live or studio, as they began to deteriorate fast in '77. But what a swan song it is. Totally rockin, muscular, and consistent. Epic songs, bluesy songs, every track makes ya wanna groove.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 13:31 |
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Presence is just as good as anything else Led Zep ever did
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Logan
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 13:57 |
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Presence is my least favourite Zep studio album, but I still like it. I haven't heard that Black Sabbath album.
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verslibre
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 14:42 |
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Sabbath > Zeppelin anytime, anyplace.
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Wanorak
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 15:01 |
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Presence by far. A couple of killer tracks in Achilles Last Stand and In My Time of Dying beat anything off TE IMO.
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Kentucky_Hawkwindage
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 15:19 |
Wanorak wrote:
Presence by far. A couple of killer tracks in Achilles Last Stand and In My Time of Dying beat anything off TE IMO. |
I agree with you friend that In My Time Of Dying is awesome,but i do believe it's from Physical Graffiti...
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"Nobody's Gonna Change My World That's Something To Unreal" Lyrics that i live my life by-from Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy's track You Won't Change Me
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 15:27 |
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What a coincidence, I've heard that Sabbath album on a rock radio today
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Dellinger
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 22:12 |
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It's been a looong time since I've listened to Presence, and I haven't got Technical Ecstasy yet. However, even though I don't remember Presence to have anything interesting besides Achilles Last Stand, that song alone makes the album worth having, and I'd be really surprised if Ecstasy had anything even remotley as good.
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Wanorak
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 23:04 |
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OOOps lol my bad! Presence still kicks TE's ass.
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Posted: April 18 2014 at 23:48 |
Sagichim wrote:
Although Presence has a few killer tracks it's definitely Technical Ecstasy for me, I never thought it was uninspired as people make it to be. |
I am one of those who find TE uninspired except for three tracks: Back Street Kids, All Moving Parts Stand Still, and It's Alright. The latter two are untypical of Sabbath, which is why I find them appealing. The rest of it just sounds like warmed over outtakes from Sabotage phoned in through a haze of alcohol & drugs. Presence is rather uneven for me but Achilles' Last Stand is powerful enough to carry the rest of the album. One of Zeppelin's finest moments.
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 19 2014 at 02:10 |
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Presence gets my vote, although TE is a very good album, and I don't really understand the dislike for it. I think it's far better than Never Say Die.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: April 19 2014 at 03:54 |
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It's a tough call, but count me in for Sabbath, by a hair.....
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ole-the-first
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Posted: April 19 2014 at 05:50 |
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Techincal Ecstasy contains much more interesting songs but there is 'Achilles Last Stand' on Presence, so no vote.
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snowsnow
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Posted: April 19 2014 at 10:04 |
Presence by a fair bit - it has 3 belters:
Achillies Tea for one Nobody's fault but mine ( my fav track - great track to get the blood pumping!)
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