Amon Duul II Wolf City - LP Sleeve variant

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   Hi everyone 
First time post on here although I've been hanging around for a while and using the wonderful resources of the site. I've acquired a copy of Amon Duul's wolf city and have tried to find version /release details, the one thing I'm struggling with is that all releases appear to have had a gatefold sleeve whereas mine has a single sleeve with a top opening. It most closely matches this version on Discogs  down to matrix numbers and sleeve description including all text and the switched track order, only difference is that it is not a gatefold. 

Anyone have a similar copy, any help in identifying this copy would be really appreciated, many thanks Phil. 

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RedPhil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: May 17 2017 Location: Cardiff Wales Status: Offline Points: 9	Topic: Amon Duul II Wolf City - LP Sleeve variant Posted: May 17 2017 at 23:07
	Hi everyone First time post on here although I've been hanging around for a while and using the wonderful resources of the site. I've acquired a copy of Amon Duul's wolf city and have tried to find version /release details, the one thing I'm struggling with is that all releases appear to have had a gatefold sleeve whereas mine has a single sleeve with a top opening. It most closely matches this version on Discogs down to matrix numbers and sleeve description including all text and the switched track order, only difference is that it is not a gatefold. Anyone have a similar copy, any help in identifying this copy would be really appreciated, many thanks Phil.

dr wu23 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20671	Posted: May 18 2017 at 13:08
	captcha sucks What label is it on...? Edited by dr wu23 - May 18 2017 at 13:30
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Kepler62 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 09 2017 Location: Fort Erie Status: Offline Points: 501	Posted: May 18 2017 at 19:39
	Are you sure it's not some East German knock off? Post a picture of it.

RedPhil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: May 17 2017 Location: Cardiff Wales Status: Offline Points: 9	Posted: May 19 2017 at 00:35
	Thanks, it's on UA - I don't think it's a knock-off, a friend passed it on to me, he had it from back in the day and it certainly looks like it's been 'enjoyed' since the '70s rather than a recent knock-off. I have photos but have been unable to upload - I'll look for a way Thanks again Phil

RedPhil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: May 17 2017 Location: Cardiff Wales Status: Offline Points: 9	Posted: May 19 2017 at 02:04
	OK, tried and failed - what's the easiest way to upload photos to a post? Thanks Edited by RedPhil - May 19 2017 at 02:10

Tom Ozric Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926	Posted: May 19 2017 at 02:13
	I have a U.A. press in the gatefold cover. I never knew it existed as a single-sleeve.

Kepler62 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 09 2017 Location: Fort Erie Status: Offline Points: 501	Posted: May 19 2017 at 06:09
	I have a Canadian one on UA that has a single sleeve.

RedPhil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: May 17 2017 Location: Cardiff Wales Status: Offline Points: 9	Posted: May 19 2017 at 23:26
	Hopefully some photos More to follow

RedPhil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: May 17 2017 Location: Cardiff Wales Status: Offline Points: 9	Posted: May 19 2017 at 23:30
	Remaining photos

RedPhil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: May 17 2017 Location: Cardiff Wales Status: Offline Points: 9	Posted: May 19 2017 at 23:40
	Thanks for all your replies and research. I did look at the Canadian version on Discogs but I think it has a different serial number, I'd appreciate if you could check the photos against your version kepler62. As you can see from the photo the sleeve is top opening. Also just noticed on loading the photos some text on the label has been blocked out, does this offer a clue. Thanks for your help again guys, Phil

ExittheLemming Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420	Posted: May 20 2017 at 01:03
	Judging by the labels (with some of the text similarly blocked out at the manufacuring stage) I'd say it's this one: http://www.45worlds.com/vinyl/album/uag29406 Nothing about a top insert on the sleeve however....

RedPhil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: May 17 2017 Location: Cardiff Wales Status: Offline Points: 9	Posted: May 20 2017 at 04:23
	Thanks ExitTheLemming The labels certainly look a match, however the copy you link to has the gatefold sleeve. Thanks for taking the time. By the way I'm loving the music, maybe I'll have to live with the mystery of the sleeve, not planning on selling so doesn't really make a difference Enjoy whatever you're listening to today Phil

Catcher10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 18006	Posted: May 24 2017 at 09:39
	The US version was a single cover, not gatefold. Could be someone swapped out the cover because they wanted the gatefold. Even though your actual LP is the German issue......I think this happens a lot at used record stores.


Cosmiclawnmower Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 4018	Posted: May 24 2017 at 13:25
	During the early 70's a lot of UA lps were pressed in Germany but were for the UK market (probably due to fuel restrictions impacting on pressing plants in UK. My suggestion is that someone has dismantled a gatefold copy, taken the centre (inner gatefold) out and re-sealed it to make a single sleeve; why they would make it a 'top loader' is a bit of a puzzler but thats my best bet.. i'm not aware of any UK varient that has a single sleeve but i could be wrong.


Kepler62 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 09 2017 Location: Fort Erie Status: Offline Points: 501	Posted: May 24 2017 at 16:59
	Come to think of it I have a few albums that I bought new back in the seventies with the sleeve not matching the record. I'll have to look. They were definitely imports. Canadian pressings weren't the greatest pressings back in the seventies and it wasn't unusual for me to buy a German or Japanese import even though I could get a Canadian one for much cheaper. This was back in the days when you bought records at a record store and the guy in the record store knew his sh*t. Discovered a lot of music this way. My Wolf City LP is a Canadian pressing with a single sleeve. Nothing special about it except the music! Edited by Kepler62 - May 24 2017 at 17:02

Barbu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855	Posted: May 24 2017 at 18:26
	Come to think of it scratching balls while listening to Wolf City is so Ooooaaaah satisfying.

Tom Ozric Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926	Posted: May 24 2017 at 23:18
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RedPhil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: May 17 2017 Location: Cardiff Wales Status: Offline Points: 9	Posted: May 24 2017 at 23:28
	Thanks again guys, some similar thoughts to mine - except for the scratching balls thing . Thought maybe it was a resealed gatefold with the centre removed but then it'd be more complex to put the opening at the top and there is no sign of such work. Also possibly a swap of sleeve and record - most likely - except that all the identification on the sleeve is right, I believe the US version carried different serial numbers. Could it have been an early, pre-production - promotional - version? Thanks again - keep scratching Phil

Barbu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855	Posted: May 25 2017 at 07:57
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moshkito Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18271	Posted: May 28 2017 at 13:06
	Hi, The original album, even the American version had Surrounded by the Stars on SIDE B ... the whole album opened with Wolf City, and then went into the instrumental. Somewhere along the way, probably because there were a couple of versions of "Surrounded by the Stars" done LIVE, it was switched, and what used to be Side B became Side A. I still can not listen to "Surrounded by the Stars" as the opening cut in that album!
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