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Topic: It Was 73 Years Ago TodayPosted By: Dean
Subject: It Was 73 Years Ago Today
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 04:22
Today is the 73rd anniversary of John Lennon's birth, so I thought I'd pay tribute in his own words:
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Replies: Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 06:52
On this day in 1967, Commandante Che Guevara has been killed.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 08:34
^ I am not sure I see the connection. One sang of peace and love, the other was a rather bloodthirsty revolutionary
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 09:02
lazland wrote:
^ I am not sure I see the connection. One sang of peace and love, the other was a rather bloodthirsty revolutionary
A revolutionary yes, but was he bloodthirsty ?
As i remember things, he was fighting for the poor people in a region of cruel dictatorship, dictatorships often backed by the US, due to the fact that the US, at that point in time, was totaly blinded by their communist fears.
Making the same political misjudgement in the americas, as they did in Vietnam.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 09:09
Oh well, that celebration was short lived.
Happy Birthday.
They say it's your birthday It's my birthday too, yeah They say it's your birthday We're gonna have a good time I'm glad it's your birthday Happy birthday to you
Ah Ah Ah Come on Come on
Yes we're going to a party party Yes we're going to a party party Yes we're going to a party party
I would like you to dance (Birthday) Take a cha-cha-cha-chance (Birthday) I would like you to dance (Birthday) Dance yeah
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 09:25
tamijo wrote:
lazland wrote:
^ I am not sure I see the connection. One sang of peace and love, the other was a rather bloodthirsty revolutionary
A revolutionary yes, but was he bloodthirsty ?
As i remember things, he was fighting for the poor people in a region of cruel dictatorship, dictatorships often backed by the US, due to the fact that the US, at that point in time, was totaly blinded by their communist fears.
Making the same political misjudgement in the americas, as they did in Vietnam.
This is a thread about John Lennon. Please stop discussing other people.
edit: meant as a general request, not to pick on tamijo
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 09:29
War is Over (if you want it)
Happy Christmas from John & Yoko
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 09:30
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 09:54
Sorry
Back to congratulations - he means a lot to me !!
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 10:10
I remember reading the interview he did with Rolling Stone in 1970(?), back when I was in high school. It literally changed my life. He taught me so much of the music industry and how dreams often get betrayed by the very people who are supposed to look out for them.
His thoughts on war and peace have also influenced me heavily, and regardless of him contradicting himself like there was no tomorrow, I still carry a lot of his words in my heart.
And that's just his words - don't get me started on the music
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 10:18
Guldbamsen wrote:
I remember reading the interview he did with Rolling Stone in 1970(?), back when I was in high school. It literally changed my life. He taught me so much of the music industry and how dreams often get betrayed by the very people who are supposed to look out for them.
His thoughts on war and peace have also influenced me heavily, and regardless of him contradicting himself like there was no tomorrow, I still carry a lot of his words in my heart.
And that's just his words - don't get me started on the music
When I was "researching" the quotes to make the above image I was surprised by some of the things he said until you realise he was John Lennon, a smart-mouthed kid from Liverpool full of ripe British sarcasm and a wickedly sharp wit, this doesn't come across in print. I think the more people took him seriously the more deliberately contradictory he got - it's the Liverpudlian way.
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Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 10:19
lazland wrote:
^ I am not sure I see the connection. One sang of peace and love, the other was a rather bloodthirsty revolutionary
You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 11:10
Dean wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
I remember reading the interview he did with Rolling Stone in 1970(?), back when I was in high school. It literally changed my life. He taught me so much of the music industry and how dreams often get betrayed by the very people who are supposed to look out for them.
His thoughts on war and peace have also influenced me heavily, and regardless of him contradicting himself like there was no tomorrow, I still carry a lot of his words in my heart.
And that's just his words - don't get me started on the music
When I was "researching" the quotes to make the above image I was surprised by some of the things he said until you realise he was John Lennon, a smart-mouthed kid from Liverpool full of ripe British sarcasm and a wickedly sharp wit, this doesn't come across in print. I think the more people took him seriously the more deliberately contradictory he got - it's the Liverpudlian way.
Thanks. That explains a lot.....Liverpudlian
I've seen a couple of live interviews with him, and he does seem to have a "knifey" tongue accompanying his words. Then again, after having lived in the insanity that was The Beatles all through the 60s, who can blame him?
He was, and continues to be, a huge inspiration to this Dane.
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 14:46
He is greatly missed. I surely know that I miss him.
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly. I'm crying.
And:
Love is the answer and you know that for sure Love is a flower you got to let it grow
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 15:04
my favourite song of his is Woman ans So This is Christmas [/blush]
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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 15:08
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 15:15
Very nicely done tribute, Dean.
I love John Lennon's music, and certainly listening to his music and watching documentaries about him has had a big personal impact.
I know this is not about Che, and so sorry to go off-topic in this post: when I saw Che mentioned the first I thought of was the Revolution song. I don't want to talk politics, but there are definite connections to be made. One of the things is simply that Che and John were two of the most iconic personalities of the 20th Century -- had this rock star status, and both were often looked up to by the same people. I think I only have two t-shirts given to me with the images of people -- one is of John Lennon, and the other is Che Guevara. As different as their paths and approaches were (Lennon took on more of a Gandhi approach to resistance, whereas Guevara used violence as a means). Both Che and John had contradictions that make them more fascinating. Both have a certain mystique and have been rather branded, and have evoked a certain mythologization. Both have been adopted by protest movements and radicals, and their images adopted by left-wingers.
Anyway, though i was young, I remember when Lennon was killed, and his life, even when contradictions between action and word, still makes me rather lachrymose.
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 18:11
His personality affected the attitudes of American teenagers and kids. It was so cool when he came into our lives. Remembering all the hilarious comments he made between 64' and 65' on national television and he simply won us over. That film of The Beatles performing in front of the Queen?..."The people in the cheaper seats clap your hands....and if the rest of you just rattle your jewellery." Or when he says to Dusty Springfield on Ready Steady Go..."Let me see your scabs" He truly took American kids out of their depression! We looked up to him as a leader of our youth. That may seem corny to some, but it was inevitable he was to come into our lives and influence us. During Beatlemania...he wrote love songs with some of the strangest twists in the lyrics. He had a very different style of using words that no one in America had ever heard before. And...it stuck with American kids to a extreme point where they would actually quote those lines when they were on a date. Girls and guys both..did this sort of thing in high school with John Lennon songs.
He brought a message to America...where he somehow addressed us to express how we feel! We weren't doing that in school because it felt forbidden, but John Lennon was Rock n' Roll, carried a proud and outspoken attitude that taught American kids to not be afraid of life. It felt good not being afraid of the teacher, the principal, the adults ..whatever? That is what he taught us and his songs influenced us to follow that path..for real! He changed the American environment. He was truly great!
When he died...I was 24 years old, driving in the rain , heard the announcement and had racing thoughts of the first time I saw him on the Ed Sullivian Show. In my mind..he was bopping his knees up and down (as he often did) and dressed in a suit. And then all his songs raced through my mind until I arrived at the band house where everyone was crying. They couldn't understand! Some of us were in denial. Everyone was remembering what he meant to us all and all at the same time! It was like a electrical shock and felt as if someone of great importance had been taken away from us without warning...and so everyone cried and cried endlessly that day. Most people in America loved him and so it was like a rip in each one of their hearts.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 22:32
My favorite Lennon-Beatles song
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 00:33
<-------------It was twenty-four years ago today when this fellow was born.
Happy birthday John!!!
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 14:10
RIP John my favourite solo John Lennon song is either Mother, the opening track on "Plastic Ono Band" or the obvious classic "Imagine". A great artist, music would probably not be like it was and is today if it wasn't for him/The Beatles with those great albums, especially Sgt. Pepper.
Happy 73rd John!!
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 11:25
Fave John songs...Strawberry Fields, I Am the Walrus, Revolution 9...the man was prog before there was prog
You say it's your birthday? Happy birthday to you!
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 13:56
Very nice tribute, Dean!
December 1980: After exploring the back catalogues of bands like Genesis, VdGG, King Crimson, Yes and Jethro Tull, my brother (four years older than me) and I "rediscovered" The Beatles, and we had only just begun with Lennon’s solo albums, starting with Plastic Ono Band and the brand new Double Fantasy.
I remember coming home from school the 9th. After a while my five years younger sister suddenly said: "Oh, have you heard that John Lennon is dead?" My brother and I thought it was some kind of sick joke, but we phoned a news line (no internet in those days) and, sadly, she was right.
A black day indeed. But he’s not forgotten. And he will never be forgotten as long as man lives.
Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. Sometimes you can say the same about death.
------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
(Peter Hammill)
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: October 12 2013 at 13:35
refugee wrote:
Very nice tribute, Dean!
December 1980: After exploring the back catalogues of bands like Genesis, VdGG, King Crimson, Yes and Jethro Tull, my brother (four years older than me) and I "rediscovered" The Beatles, and we had only just begun with Lennon’s solo albums, starting with Plastic Ono Band and the brand new Double Fantasy.
I remember coming home from school the 9th. After a while my five years younger sister suddenly said: "Oh, have you heard that John Lennon is dead?" My brother and I thought it was some kind of sick joke, but we phoned a news line (no internet in those days) and, sadly, she was right.
A black day indeed. But he’s not forgotten. And he will never be forgotten as long as man lives.
Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. Sometimes you can say the same about death.
I remember the day after when I heard the news at work...me and another Beatle fan made black flags and hung them from our car antenna's
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: October 16 2013 at 14:24
Great tribute to John Lennon, Strawberry Fields Forever is one of the first songs I remember, the mellotron intro is impossible to forget.
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 16 2013 at 15:23
A fellow Libra and a downright arsehole....in the sense that he spouted peace, truth and love and our cynical press, leaders and powers that be deemed him a degerenerate arsehole. The world needs more arseholes.
Remember BIll Hicks...."They shot Kennedy, MLK, Ghandi, Lennon, but Reagan they wounded.....wrong choice!"
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 17 2013 at 06:52
proggman wrote:
Great tribute to John Lennon, Strawberry Fields Forever is one of the first songs I remember, the mellotron intro is impossible to forget.
The greatest thing ever committed to vinyl imo.
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 17 2013 at 20:41
I feel it a bit ironic that this thread is named after a line in Sgt.Pepper, a song Paul rote
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 18 2013 at 01:52
Lennon was the only public figure I ever cared about. He was a total one off , someone who created much beauty for us to enjoy but also wanted to change the world for the better. Imagine is a song that makes you think. That in itself is incredibly rare.
Not only that he gave the Yes drumming legend that is Alan White his first big break.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 18 2013 at 02:37
smartpatrol wrote:
I feel it a bit ironic that this thread is named after a line in Sgt.Pepper, a song Paul rote
That's not irony, but thanks for you input.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 18 2013 at 02:57
Dean wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
I feel it a bit ironic that this thread is named after a line in Sgt.Pepper, a song Paul rote
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 18 2013 at 03:07
smartpatrol wrote:
Dean wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
I feel it a bit ironic that this thread is named after a line in Sgt.Pepper, a song Paul rote
That's not irony, but thanks for you input.
How is it not irony?
Because it isn't. Titling a tribute to someone with words written by someone else isn't ironic.
i·ro·ny
n.pl.i·ro·nies
1.
a. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
b. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
c. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See Synonyms at http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wit" rel="nofollow - wit1.
2.
a. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: "Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated"(Richard Kain).
b. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. See Usage Note at http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ironic" rel="nofollow - ironic .
3. Dramatic irony.
4. Socratic irony.
[French ironie, from Old French, from Latin rna, from Greek eirneia, feigned ignorance, from eirn, dissembler, probably from eirein, to say; see wer-5 in Indo-European roots.]
Even if I had assumed that John wrote them, or wrongly attributed them to John that still would not be irony
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Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: January 10 2014 at 21:10
"Surrealism to me, is reality" "It all exists, even if it's in your mind" .
...And many others, with the same friendly, brotherly flavour.
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: January 13 2014 at 09:51
I remember reading something a long time ago about John Lennon hearing the music of MAN and stating that it was very good and reminded him of some of the songwriting he did with The Beatles. John Lennon must have been so cool to work with and he probably had a very open mind accepting new artists all the time. When observing some of the film footage of the Imagine sessions with Spector...he was frustrated with "Oh Yoko". Like many creative artists he could not tolerate certain situations and I believe that is what made him so great. I love his confrontation with the fellow who was sleeping on his lawn/property. On film he tells the guy..."Those are just nonsense lyrics" and he says...."How could I have been talking about you?" He tries to set the guy straight and suddenly you get the impression that John Lennon was truly a down to earth person who had much love in his heart. He may have been frustrated with certain aspects to life, but I get the impression that he was for the good of life and about helping people. You can witness that on the Imagine film when he invites the guy in for breakfast. That's another reason why I have a rip in my heart whenever I think of his death. Love ya...John!