The Residents are now on the archives.
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Topic: The Residents are now on the archives.
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Subject: The Residents are now on the archives.
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:11
| OK, The Residents now appear on the archives. Go under R and you'll find them listed 3 times, this is an error that is to be fixed, but the 3rd listed is the correct one as albums are being added to that. Max should be fixing this anytime as well. Also under T "The Residents" appears like 5 times, ignore this as that is also an error. Anyways I'm adding all of the albums myself so don't worry about that, just please review if you have any of them that are there already! |
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:15
You've got to be joking - the Residents aren't prog 
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:21
Yes they are. Great biog Retro! I look forward to slapping up a review or two! |
Certif1ed wrote:Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:22
Yes they are man, read the biography if you must. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:22
| Oh, not happy with the classification though. RIO/Avant-Prog would surely be more appropriate? |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:24
The Residents? You've got to be kidding.....
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:26
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Nah - I was only joking in the light of all the stupid unjustified comments about Queen recently. You should know me better - I almost always justify what I say if I'm serious. No bites on the wind-up then |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:30
| Oh sorry Certif1ed, I'm not familiar with all of this Queen junk, I have no idea why anyone would argue against them being here, so I don't even open the threads. |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:33
I would pick RIO/Avant Prog because that's closer than Electronic Prog Music, but I didn't want to slap The Residents with the Canterbury title because that's surely not them. Now, if Max made RIO/Avant separate from Canterbury (which I have no idea why that's not the case), then this can surely be changed. But I tagged them as electronic, because you can't argue the fact that they're like 90% electronic. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:35
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Sorry to have hijacked your thread in a moment of levity - I hope that by replying it draws more attention to this new inclusion
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:35
But by the same token, they're hardly Kraftwerk are they? I'd say the RIO connection is too strong to ignore. |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:45
| Correct, as soon as Max gets on I have some things to clear up with him. |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:52
| I PM'ed Max about this whole mess, this should be cleared up in no time. Also what are you going to review Trouserpress? |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:55
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definetly avant-prog.
I was wondering why thewy werent in the archives before. :/ ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:56
Duck/Buster, Eskimo, Commercial Album, Not Available. Any of those, seeing as 'ow those are the albums I have.  |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 18:02
| Ah, nice. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 19:41
| Who are the Residents?....who cares?? |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 19:47
Posts like this won't win you many favours here. They're a band with a small but dedicated following whose inclusion on this site is long overdue. So yeah, Retro cares, I care and a lot of others care too. Take your snide remarks elsewhere. |
Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 20:06
I agree with this sub-genre qualification! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 22:49
Trouserpress wrote:
Why don't you try Post Punk, would be more exact. Not every weird band is necesarilly Prog. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 23:14
| I just wondering if any of you could recommend a good residents album to start out with??? |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 23:29
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Try with The Third Reich and Roll, Eskimo or almost anything from Meet the Residents (If you can ever get a copy, because it was taken out of circulation for being a satire to Meet the Beatles) to The Commercial Album (1980), during this years they were barely listenable, with the years they only turned weirder and chaotic but not Prog'. Not heard anything by The Residents after The King & Eve, but due to their musical evolution and some comments, it's not promissing. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 23:31
| Thanks! |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 23:34
| The Residents have far too many prog elements to be thrown into Post-Punk or Experimental exclusively. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 01:57
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Good thing they are finally included; my favorite album of them is "Eskimo". What a great hoax it is! Some listeners may even believe this really is slightly reworked traditional Eskimo music, until in the last track they suddenly start singing "Coca-Cola is life!" -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 05:13
They have nothing to do with post-punk, they were contemporaries of FAUST and early 70s avantgarde! |
Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 05:19
I just recently had a chance to listen to severel Residents albums I was really stunned! 
It depends on your musical tastes and ability to accept weird stuff, but I would surely NOT recommend "Meet the Residents" or "Third Reich'n'Roll". Chances are you would smash the player... 
THE RESIDENTS ARE UNIQUE AND MOST TWISTED AND WEIRDEST MUSICAL STUFF I LISTENED TO EVER. They are funny too. For novices I would recommend "Duck Stab/Buster Glenn" or "Commercila Album" to get used to their wickedness. 
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Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 05:47
Retrovertigo, I would like to congratulate you for the addition of the Residents, your bio is very good. 
Isn't it odd that recently two names were added to Progarchives which do not really belong to officially defined "progressive rock" - one is pompose and poppish glam hard rock - QUEEN, the other serious conceptual artists and avantgarde deconstructionists - THE RESIDENTS! You probably cannot have more different, unconnected and distant musical styles than that of these two. Interesting! 
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 06:46
I only have one Residents CD, but I want to hear more, so the inclusion here is COOL! 
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 08:15
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Any mp3 you guys want to add to the RESIDENTS on the website ?
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 09:29
I don't know them well enough... but I'm sure Retrovertigo has suggestions? 
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 09:42
| I have plenty of mp3's Max, I'd like to submit a decent number for people to start The Residents with, how many can I submit? |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 12:13
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3 to 5 ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 12:17
That's not very many, considering bands like KC, GG and Yes have upwards of 5 and the Resident's discography is HUGE. But hey, I'm not gonna bite the hand that feeds me. 
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Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 12:45
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Great to have them in the archives. As for mp3's, I think at least one song from 'Eskimo' has to be added. 'Festival Of Death' maybe? -------------  |
Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 13:23
Hey Retro, if you need assistance I also have several songs in mp3! I would suggest you to upload some of not too weird stuff as a good introduction to people who never heard anything. I would pick some tracks from "Commercial Album" (easy upload since they are short), "Eskimo", "Duck Stab" (my personal fav song "Blue Rosebuds") and maybe "Meet the Residents". |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 13:28
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Well if it's 3 to 5, then I will pick 5!
I was really tempted to add Cry for the Fire from the 13th Anniversary Show and something from the new Animal Lover, but those are good I guess. I'm not home so I can't add them yet. Max, you should implement a direct mp3 add for collaborators.
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 14:51
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i have just discover the residents! man! this is very strange music! it has a mix of Yello, Japan, devil dolls with very litle beat. icky flix is very SCARY! i think it sounds like a dead post goth/post new wave music! i like the "demons dance alone" album though! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 14:52
Yet it pre-dates the lot. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 18:52
They started in the 70's, but they are still playing and since Assorted Secrets, they have a clear Post Punk Sound. I admit they are closer to Prog' (especially during their first albums) than Queen and far more experimental, but still not sure they belong here. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 19:02
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Great addition - to quote no less an authority than myself, if Faust had come from Louisiana this is what they'd have sounded like. There is a RIO connection - Chris Cutler of Henry Cow was the first to write about them in the UK music press and I think Recommended Records were the first to distribute their music in the UK. He and Fred Frith also played on some of their releases, such as Commercial Album. Having caid that, classifying them is almost impossible - post punk was when they took off, but they were doing their thing several years before punk started. I was lucky enough to catch their 13th anniversary show at The Hacienda - one of the strangest and most memorable gigs I've ever seen. I'll probably submit a review or two myself, if I get time. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 00:22
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the Residents are an avantgarde band, and there is an avantgarde section in the archives. they rightfully belong there. the meaning of "progressive" would become very shallow if we couldn't include artists like the Residents, IMHO. "Eskimo" is my favorite album of them. what a great hoax! ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 01:47
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I have to admit the inclusion of The Residents is correct if the requiremet is having at least one 100% Prog' album, it was my mistake judging a band without listening all their albums. Just a few minutes ago I finished listening a copy of Eskimo a friend who works still in a radio gave me, and even when I still find the Punk and/or Post Punk influences and I don't like the album at all, it's a Progressive release IMHO. I don't change my opinion about the rest of the material I heard (Proggish with Post Punk main influence), but this album justifies their inclusion. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 01:57
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I didn't expect a Genesis fan to really dig them anyways.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 02:04
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Well, I'm digging, or not? In my case is different, I worked on a radio some years ago and was exposed to various kind of music and very unknown artists who send their material (Well the label sends the material to be honest), so I like to dig sometimes. Casually a friend who still works there is a Residents lunatic (I remember he usedto drive me crazy), so I called him after reading Baldie's post and of course sent me a copy in a few hours. Iván
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 02:14
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you'd be surprised, I like Genesis AND the Residents. my prog taste is very eclectic. my taste tends towards bands with a weirder or rougher edge than Genesis, but they certainly have their moments. and I can't forget I grew up listening to them, because my parents did. so yes, it is a feeling of nostalgia, in a way. being born at the end of the 60s, at the beginning of prog, and in SF too, as a kid of two hippies, and growing up among bead curtains, incense sticks and other sweet smokes, love-ins and lots of psychedelic and progressive rock is quite educational ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 03:31
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wow BaldJean likes Genesis......never saw that coming in a million years ------------- 
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 03:32
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 04:48
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I thought you liked Genesis as well? |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 12:27
How can they be post punk influenced if they predate punk by about a decade?! |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 13:23
| Post-punk means bands who after 1977 took the raw sound of punk and mixed it with experimentation. The fact that The Residents are one of the bands who spawned punk (The Residents' Satisfaction single predates punk and has the style) is probably why they're listed under that. However The Residents supposedly haven't listened to any other music since the early 1970's so any influence of punk is non-existent. |