Petition to get Jon Anderson back into Yes
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Topic: Petition to get Jon Anderson back into Yes
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Subject: Petition to get Jon Anderson back into Yes
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 14:21
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Not sure if this has been posted yet or not. Apparently it was taken off of Yesfans(for whatever reason). Anyway, there are actually two of them. https://www.change.org/petitions/the-rock-band-yes-re-instate-jon-anderson-as-the-lead-singer# http://www.thepetitionsite.com/942/060/892/get-jon-anderson-back-to-yes/ |
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Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 14:34
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Jon Anderson is still a gifted composer/songwriter with heaps of creativity within. He doesn't need Yes, Who has dried up long ago and has become a bloated parody of itself. I say, Jon, surround yourself with new talent and form a new vehicle to fuel your artistry. ------------- And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11 |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 14:52
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I'd rather Yes without him. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 17:06
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lol Like that has any chance of succeeding. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 17:09
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Yes is definitely better with Jon, but if they don't want him/he doesn't want to be in (don't know the situation), then he won't be in it. You can't force these things.
------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 17:40
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LOL They should be forced to live in the same house and do a Progressive Big Brother programme. With all the ex members of Yes aand we get to vote them all off until there is a Yes left over. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 18:05
Jon has ZERO creativity left..  ------------- Stardust we are. -Roine Stolt |
JesusisLord wrote:Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 18:13
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No need to be snarky about someone's religious beliefs. Not a religious person myself, but come on, that was uncalled for. However, I agree with Snowie, and prefer Yes as they now are. Jon and Yes together had become stale. Think some new(old) blood has done them some good. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 18:58
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Yes don't need Jon though I have very low expectations of Yes. If I change my ID to Satan_Is_Our_Savior do I get a pass? ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 20:40
I love Yes - I love almost everything they've done - regardless of who is on vocals - but I have been spending time with Olias of Sunhillow lately, and, damn it, I miss his voice in Yes. Even if the recent 'Fly From Here' was a 4 star album for me (see, fanboy..... ) - it probably would've been done differently with Anderson's input, and gained more respect than it does...........
Olias is a journey into a fantastical place, an amazingly ambitious conceptual work conceived and performed by one man - not bad at all for a lead vocalist.....................
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Posted By: Master of Time
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 21:55
| If Benoit was still on lead vocals this would probably be something I really wanted, but I have now see Yes twice with Jon Davison and I don't really care anymore if Jon Anderson comes back. I'm sure I would love it if he did, but I would be perfectly happy if Yes kept Davison for the rest of their career. |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 02:49
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Jon did a new work recently and as far as I can tell, it got zero publicity here. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 03:05
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I would love to hear Yes with Benoit and Jon. I also think that Jon Davidson and Jon Anderson would make a good musical collaboration. ------------- I am currently digging: Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 03:32
If it insures that Jon Davison stays in Glass Hammer then I'm all for it
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 03:43
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I think Yes could easily manage with different lineups - it's what they're good at. they can do a 25th anniversary Reunion of the Union lineup, but with added members (where was Moraz back then, anyway?)
------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 04:34
.if you are in the right mood this is going to blow you away . ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 04:37
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They're probably my least favorite of the original Prog heavyweights but you certainly can't deny Yes (with Jon) produced some genre defining moments in their output during the early 70's. Thereafter alas, the name Yes has become but a franchise sticker over which many tiresome ageing hippys wage media wars for their pension rights. It's irrelevant who the singer is when the band are tantamount to a karaoke machine (though I thought Fly From Here represented something of a return to form) ------------- 
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 04:46
| Something's wrong when you start petitioning for artists to do what you would like them to do.. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 04:56
I never understood the love for this album. Yuck. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 05:37
This. Artists are artists, not slaves... ------------- 
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 11:46
They are slaves if the record company and fans force them to play the same thing over and over and they concede to it. ------------- My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head. |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 11:48
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No. No. No. It's in the US Constitution that we have the right to petition our favorite band for a redress of grievances.
------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 11:55
But Yes are from the UK, not the the US ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 12:01
I agree with much of this, aside from Ian's comment re least favourite. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 12:08
Don't we own the UK?  ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 12:10
Not that long ago it was the other way around. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 12:45
------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 13:00
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Don't care anymore. There's a better chance of King Crimson reforming for a new album, and Jon joining them on vocals alongside Belew for a performance of Lizard's title track than Jon rejoining Yes. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 13:02
I'm still trying to appreciate it. I'm not sure if I ever will.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 13:08
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I love what Jon Anderson did for '70's Yes, and I love the Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe album and Yes' project with the orchestra on tour about a decade ago: that was Jons dream and it was great. But I wouldn't support the petition. I have the feeling that bringing Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn back in brought some freshness to the band (for however long that remains fresh, I don't know.) Jon wouldn't want long tours anyway and he's happy to work with Rick and do solo stuff, so...
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 13:21
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How about a petition to get CAN back together instead? ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 13:22
He may not have a lot of voice left ... but the creativity is there and he will translate it better as time goes by. I have not been a YES fan since the last album of theirs I enjoyed ... Relayer ... and when Patrick Moraz was dumped, I lost all respect in YES, and have not bothered since. Jon is fine, and doesn't need YES anymore! He needs to get his own vision done, like he did before ... and sing it differently, and as I told him when he was around here ... stop trying to sing everything ... do it like a poem, or a rap poem ... or anything else ... add something to that stuff that was not there before ... he stated at me, smiled ... giggled ... and then winked! The rest of YES ... is about what is all wrong with the rock music world and business in my estimation! I don't even find the music that great! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 13:26
Sadly, Michael Karoli is deceased, so there could never be a complete CAN reunion. Personally, I'd like to see GG get back together and record a new album. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 14:43
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Yes just ain't Yes without him......full stop! ------------- "I always say that it’s about breaking the rules. But the secret of breaking rules in a way that works is understanding what the rules are in the first place". Rick Wakeman |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 15:58
Benoit put in a lot of hard work and gave nothing but a great performance with his vocals - I haven't heard Davison in Yes yet, but he too has a top, Jon Anderson-like voice. But Jon Anderson, they're not.
I doubt J.A. will ever return to Yes, but the Yes-machine will still crank on. It's only when Rick W returns for the 2639th time and brings his vocal buddy Ashley Holt it may go all pear-shaped.......
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 16:57
I hate to say that but I'm not going to dispute it ,but then again, Jon isn't doing anything all that fresh and interesting, either. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 18:38
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Jon Anderson's last album was not too bad. He's hopelessly devoted to cheese and digital synths, so anything new really needs a no-nonsense producer like Rick Rubin or Nigel Goodrich. Jon also needs some help in the lyrics department. There's only so many times you can write about the Big Dream. I also love Fly From Here. Best thing since Drama. That being said, the week link in Yes these days is Geoff Downes. He's okay on the Drama stuff, but is woefully inadequate on imitating Wakeman...especially Awaken. Jon Davison is pretty amazing, but Yes shows are boring as hell these days. Everything is so slow. Jon and Jon is an intriguing proposition. Sharing vocals etc. I would love to see Squire, Wakeman, Howe, Anderson, White and Davison in the studio with a good producer that would reel in the band's eccentricities and assure a warmly mixed and mastered album (this is what's been missing from prog since 1980, IMO). Then do a series of residencies in London, LA and New York. Maybe do full albums and have Dean stage props. Maybe even revisit some 80s-90s Yes music and rearrange for a leaner more succinct presentation. Keep the band healthy, happy and creative. Also, bring in additional musicians to fill in the sound as needed. Good musicians, not heritage like Downes. If these bands want to stay on the road, they need to play to their strengths. Another band that could do this is Rush. Come out and do an instrumental medley of the old tunes everyone wants to hear. Maybe bring in a guest vocalist to do the singing. Don't play as long and play residencies. ------------- Stardust we are. -Roine Stolt |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 19:24
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Why would you try get attention for a band that is 30 years past their expiration date? Give your attention to better bands.
------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 19:52
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Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 21:06
yeah, like the modern heavy weight, Charles Mingus  just joking...seriously, who would you recommend? ------------- Stardust we are. -Roine Stolt |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 21:11
| Implying Yes is musically relevant at all these days, with or without him. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 22:05
I happen to agree with you but let's not get all contemporaneous here: all you need for relevance is sincerity in my book (and Yes ain't had that for over 30 years, hence my comparing them to that of a franchise) I'm inferring you think old men in prog are irrelevant, which is at best fatuous. -------------
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:18
Exactly, also called the recency fallacy. I watched John McLaughlin and Zakir Hussain live last year and there were many others in my age group (mid 20s) in the audience. Please don't try to tell us we were watching something 'irrelevant' just because some of their pieces go back 30 years. They are wizards who've got better instead of getting rusty with time and many young musicians would find it hard to match the depth of their repertoire. As for Yes, they are a touring machine now and have yet to convince me they are truly committed to recording new material. Not that they have to, nothing wrong with that if they don't have much anything of significance to say in a new album anymore. But that makes the consideration of band composition a little insignificant. Jon Davison is a good singer and since Yes are tribut-ing themselves for all practical purposes, why not. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:29
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I love Yes and Rush and Zeppelin and Who and Stones.......but guys, all of yas......it really is time to do something else. |
Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 08:53
Rush is still good. Ged can't sing anymore, but they can still rock. The Who still sound ok live, but I was over them in the late 80s. Zep has kept their legacy, as far as I'm concerned. Their reunion show was excellent and Plant really has grown as an artist every decade since he began. As far as Yes goes, I'm just amazed at how these dudes have the energy to live on the road and play these same old long-ass songs every night. Not to mention, the people going to see them. ------------- Stardust we are. -Roine Stolt |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 14:32
From what I heard from his other solo albums: most of the stuff I don't like either. I do like quite some stuff he did with Vangelis though, but I get the impression that Vangelis is the main composer in their duo projects. I don't think Jon or Rick will ever return to Yes on a more permanent basis. Both had health problems which keeps them from the long tours with Yes. They tour together but that is probably much less intense. Maybe sometimes there will be reunions, that's another thing.
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Posted By: Chozal
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 14:39
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Did Yes produce any good albums / a regular output of albums recently ? Seems to me more of a live nostalgia act ... Unrelated note : Thanks KC for not turning into that ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Infinite-Progability-Drive/141225469388975" rel="nofollow - The Infinite Progability Drive , feeding you daily progressive/weird music for just a like <3 |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 00:14
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Jon Anderson should not go back to Yes. Survival and Other Stories is his best album since Change We Must, and the other things he's put out like Open are great. He's releasing Olias Pt 2 sometime in the next few years too.
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Posted By: doublerainbow1975
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 05:54
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I think Jon being on his own has been great for him. He seems free to pursue his own projects and collaborations with artists, and doesn't care about the big label - or selling out arenas. I have seen YES many times, but Jon's solo show last year was as powerful as any of those shows - because it was small and because he brings you right there - to that wow moment, with just a few chords and his voice. His vocalized version of the WURM section in Starship Trooper was unbelievable. With a little bit of 'scat singing' he covers all of the melodic layers that the bass guitar and key occupy. I guess I say let Jon be Jon and let him keep exploring . . . he is a force all his own. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 09:05
Bands that are doing something different, and just as good ... not necessarily better! But if the context means that yesterday's were good and today's is trash, then your line would be very incorrect in my book! There is just as much good work going on today as YES then! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:47
I really agree with this. I haven't seen Yes, but I saw Jon on his solo tour, and it was wonderful.
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:31
Well said zuma,
Putting aside the YES, JA polls for a second, having read some comments here, I would humbly submit:
To all the young fascists here who seem qualified to tell the musicians in YES what to do, I have a question:
Have you championed your lives so excellently that you are now capable to tell grown world-class artists what to do with their lives??? I have a simple suggestion for you: If you don't enjoy what YES are doing these days, don't buy their records or go to their concerts. I doubt the band, YES(or anybody else really...) gives a rat's bottom what you think anyway.... Right...
As far as the petition for Jon, I quote part of it:
"By continuing to tour as "YES" with other lead singers, the band is misleading its fan base and tarnishing their legacy...."
Right, I am sure this will have a positive effect on Steve, Chris & Alan and will also help Jon Davison & Geoff, by telling them they are tarnishing the legacy. Brilliant! This is exactly what is needed. Chris & Steve & Alan like any seasoned
VERY sucessful band leaders, have large ego's and are probably laughing at or ignoring the clueless super-fans who submitted this poll.
This poll smells like something that the self-annointed YES elite fans at alt.music.yes would concoct, Good luck with that lads...
To qualify my position, YES are my fav band of all time all I would love it dearly if Jon Anderson rejoined them once more., though I do have a question for the JA worshipers and current YES haters....
If we were to have celebrated ABW&H(I saw the tour and enjoyed it) that means we should accept YES without Squire(for me that sucked big time...). Why can't you enjoy YES without JA??? JA is not blameless in this whole mess, by the way...
For my part I haved loved every YES tour since 1977(though the Trevor Rabin stuff has not aged well...)
What YES is doing now, touring those three particular records in totality, is pretty freekin amazing.
Why can't we all just get a Long Island Iced Tea???
 I can't wait for a DVD of the current tour. By the way, the Fly from Here suite, was awesome in concert last summer,
Jon Davison is a real gem, stop the hatin and start appreciatin! ------------- "Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:35
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Jon has to get in to get out, getting up then getting down hasn't been working out...
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 17:03
Much needed. Hopefully the band regards the petition as a silly attempt by fans to live in the past, or something along those lines.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 22:52
Agree completely.
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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 27 2013 at 09:48
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I just wrote a long post that the forum decided wasn't "authorized", so I lost it all. I'll just sum up quickly then: I personally have zero interest in a bunch of senior citizens reliving their glory days (albeit, in a slow and plodding fasion) to a crowd of other senior citizens who can't move on from the past.........but none of them care what I think, and rightfully so. The petition is going to get zero notice from the band or Anderson, so I think it's pretty silly and a waste of time. |
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 27 2013 at 11:28
A Ha! God got you and deleted your little(prolly pretty big, actually..) rant.
  I know you don't dig current YES and you'd rather see a 70 year old Robert Fripp hang upsidedown and jam with Phillip Glass, fine. I just have a question for you since we are both guitar players...
What chance do you or I have of playing Awaken at even the "slow and plodding fashion" you allude to?
Oh, also, have you ever contemplated an Avatar update?
Love ya!
 Dennis
------------- "Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire |
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 27 2013 at 11:32
You could have just said "rogerthat". ------------- "Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 27 2013 at 11:39
As I said, I have great respect for the members of Yes, especially Steve Howe. He was a huge influence on my guitar playing........to the point that I could probably pull off a very passable (though certainly not better or even as good) version of Awaken. But maybe I'm being immodest  As to Fripp and Phillip Glass........no thanks. I'd love to see Fripp with a new version of King Crimson though  (as long as it wasn't a nostalgia act trotting out aging past members......Fripp himself being the exception, since he's aged much better than most prog rock stars of the past). |
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 27 2013 at 13:14
You can pull off the solo in Awaken? Dude! I am not worthy!
  He does that on a 12 string you know.. I could do most parts of it but that blazing speed run that ties it all together is
beyond me, and I have no trouble playing, Clap, The Ancient(acoustic part) and Mood For A Day. You rock skippy!
As far as Fripp goes, that would be a tough comparison, he has always kinda "hid" behind other guitarists.
Steve Howe, Gary Green, Steve Morse, even Pete Townshend all did the "heavy lifting" (guitar playing)onstage by themselves. Basic rock bands like Aerosmith, Def Leopard or Judas Priest pack a bunch of guitars on stage, but I never understood Fripp's need for guys like Adrian Belew(who I think is phenomenal). And don't say it "adds" to the music. Multi guitarists sonically all kinda merge live, its so hard to hear them indivudally...unless you do the Pink Floyd live thing where each guitarist plays a discreetly orchestrated part....
No Fripp bashing here, lets just keep him aside from single guitar player bands.
 As far as Fripp being fresher.... Fripp has never been fresh or old. He always plays the same kinda "pattern rock"
or "math fusion rock" with other guitarists. You seen one Fripp show you have seen them all! Oops, now I have done it! . All the Fripp fans are gonna be out for blood now... ------------- "Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 10:09
Well, I would need lots of practice to get back in shape, but I think I could do it.........if I had a 12 string As to Fripp, well, he was the ONLY guitarist in the band from '69 to '78, which is the only period I care about. He did far more than 'pattern rock" for most of that time. Even in the 80's and beyond Crimson, you have to understand that his guitar patterns are the base for the entire compositions.......all the "heavy lifting" as you say, is him. The rest of the band work their parts around him. So it's pretty funny you thinking he doesn't do the "heavy lifting". I'd like to see Howe try to play his "patterns". I doubt he's capable (but then, I'm certainly not........very few are)....or would want to Anyway, we've veered way off topic here. Jon Anderson rules, Yes is a hollow shell without him. Yet still this petition is silly, IMO. |
Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 22:24
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Better yet, go for the Court Injunction! "Jon Roy Anderson, you are hereby remanded under the Prog Penal Code, for a period of no less than two releases, to your former band Yes...." ------------- -John |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 28 2013 at 22:43
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You cannot recreate the past. Let the man say when -- he is free, and knows himself better. The classic Yes will always be there. That should be enough for you. ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 12:43
Ok, you win the Fripp thing, I was really thinking of his eighties work till now, I was never a big fan of his early "bang the gargabe can lids"(Moonchild) thing.... I do love Greg Lake, so nice he was in early KC, don't worry bout the sidetrack, not much activity for YES here on PA, so I bet this thread dies out sooner then later, at least we are talking guitarists...
Speaking of..., Steve Howe(even now) could wipe the floor with Fripp and 3 others like him, so I can't let that Howe slam stand. If you wanna find a guitar player who comes close to Howe then venture on out to Austin,Texas and look for a young man named Johnson.
Oh, and YES are doing just fine with JD, just as fine as they did back in 1968 with Peter Banks & Tony Kaye & Bill Bruford.
------------- "Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 22:23
This is a live performance of Frame by Frame and it's Fripp who plays that complex, fast pattern (you can see it at 0:53). What Belew does is also incredibly difficult because his parts intersect with Fripp while he has to sing at the same time. You can see he gets out of time at "Step by step" but adjusts and covers it. Yes, he adds to the music.  It's a completely different kind of music from what Yes envisioned, if I may say so. |
Posted By: Larree
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 22:42
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Well, as long as this little Steve Howe vs Robert Fripp sidebar thing is happening now... All I am going to say is this... Strictly as guitarists, putting their individual bands and their unique compositional approaches aside, I think Steve Howe could probably figure out and play Fripp guitar easier and better than Fripp could figure out and play Steve Howe guitar. Because to me, Steve Howe is more of a guitarist's guitarist, while Fripp is simply from outer space and probably never cut through the basic rudimentary chops that the rest of us mortal guitar players had to cut through. Just sayin' ------------- http://larree.ws" rel="nofollow - The Larree (dot) Website |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 22:45
| Just to clarify....I am not saying one is technically better than the other, strictly as a guitarist. That's not for me to judge. But I do consider Fripp a lot bolder and more imaginative than Howe. |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 04:46
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Are we throwing all our toys out of the pram about this? Don't be ridiculous. "I demand that my favourite band replaces their current singer with my favourite singer, even if neither singer nor band wants that to happen." How would that actually work? Pay them a few extra million, maybe? And get them to not argue much too, eh? What if I were to demand a Prog Supergroup featuring Chris Squire, Robert Fripp, Ian Anderson, and Nick Mason (each being the only person on every album by their respective bands) they could get Keith Emerson in there as well, and name the band CRINK after their first initials. I demand that they do this!! *shakes fist pointlessly*
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 22:07
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I just saw Yes on Cruise To The Edge. When "introduced", JD got the biggest applause of all of them. Just saying! More comments in a different thread, if/when I get around to it. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 03:01
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Does it really matter who sings/plays/dances in the latest version of the official Yes tribute band? ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 04:41
------------- What? |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 04:53
Yeah, Fripp is so unconventional that I'm not sure if he would be able to play Puff The Magic Dragon
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 06:45
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I wonder if Jon Anderson even gives a toss whether we all want him back in Yes or not..................
........think I might go and listen to 'The Ladder'...........
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 09:44
Haters gonna hate. Nothing to see here. Move along lads. ------------- "Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 10:12
Some of my favourite musicians are old men... look at Faust or Magma, both still going hard to this day. It's just Yes specifically that haven't done anything worthwhile in decades. |
Posted By: Larree
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 12:12
Well, not without a bunch of whole tone scale runs thrown in! ------------- http://larree.ws" rel="nofollow - The Larree (dot) Website |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 14:06
I have to admit I would have done it too ... the folks in it are worth it and then some. I think Edgar Froese is in that too! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 20:52
About the 26th minute when they do Matte Kudasai, that's some pretty conventional guitar by Bob. ------------- -John |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 21:17
------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 21:18
------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: sturoc
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 21:58
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WOW did this thread go down a few different paths ! I'll bring it back around.... Think on this: You've been in a group that has had success musically, commercially. A member of this band from the get go, we've all been thru alot for a long time, decades of touring, conflicts with members, departures, new members etc. Meanwhile you've done many solo projects, some with others. Over the span of some 45 years, you've taken breaks away from this group due to health issues and your artistic direction. Then one day after much thought you have decided to finish and be done. You've accomplished everything you've imagined with this band and more. Even reunited several times. But now it's time to move on to other things. While the compositions are timeless performing them is not. Forward motion discovers new ground. Then someone comes up with a petition that may show fan support for you to return to that long standing group. What those that started this effort do not realize is that your decision is made by you and you alone. The supporters, while worthy fans, don't understand that someday we all must move forward and this is your time to do so. It would be hard for me to grip their logic, almost hurtful to deny them their desire. In the end, we are all individuals on our own paths. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 05 2013 at 01:39
I agree 100% Listening Jon's painfully acute voice and horrendous lyrics without sense, is a torture for me. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 05 2013 at 01:47
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I'll sign the petition Yes is dead , long live Glass Hammer!
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 06 2013 at 01:49
| As one with the knowledge and magic of the source, attuned to the majesty of music, they marched as one with the Earth................................ ...........................need I say more ??? |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 06 2013 at 14:22
I agree 0%. Listening to Jon's beautiful voice and spiritual lyrics, that mean a lot personally, is a pleasure for me. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 06 2013 at 14:32
Don't ruin it. Ivan agrees with me. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: April 06 2013 at 14:36
| Yes, ofcourse it's his decision. However, I have heard him say interviews that he would go back if they would have him. Therefore a petition could get the point across and help him. It's probably mostly irrelevant to the band but it would signal a message to them if nothing else. In the end it's really up to Chris and the band Jon. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: April 10 2013 at 22:47
| Yes has proven they can do it without him---Drama and FFH---If Jon could go solo and be great without Yes as his backup band--he would be a great solo artist---like Gabriel---he is not a great solo artist---he needs Howe, Squire, White and Wakeman----having said that I wish he could still be the singer---but let the others contribute as much as him. |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: April 11 2013 at 00:10
They might make little sense to you but they mean a heck of a lot to me ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 11 2013 at 01:06
It's called personal taste Iván -------------
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: April 11 2013 at 01:07
I know ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: April 11 2013 at 15:28
Hi Laz,
We haven't chatted lately, surely its my loss.
You are 100% correct here, kind sir. Jon's voice in YES has always been a gift that transcends through many
layers of human perception. Haters always gonna hate. ------------- "Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 11 2013 at 18:20
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I stopped listening to Yes cd's after Going for the One and never really cared that much for any of Jon's solo outings...so it's a moot point for me. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 11 2013 at 23:18
Not hater, I know what I like and what I don't like, and I believe our opinions should be respected without using aggressive adjectives, we come here to give our opinions without need of harsh replies. I dislike acute voices, it's my taste. Iván
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: April 12 2013 at 00:06
 but nothing against you Ivan, I just thought you wrote subconsciously ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 12 2013 at 00:27
Not subconciously The funny thing is that IKWIL is one of the few Gabriel era songs I don't like
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: April 12 2013 at 00:31
------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 23:07
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*ahem* Back to the issue about "Is Yes truly 'Yes' without Jon Anderson?" Here's a pretty good opinion piece on this topic: http://www.dailyvault.com/article.php5?id=294" rel="nofollow - http://www.dailyvault.com/article.php5?id=294 "The band members from the classic lineup of Anderson, Howe, Squire,
Wakeman and White are all in their sixties. The clock is running out,
and the question before Squire and Howe is simple; which is going to be
your priority from here on out, the money or the legacy? To choose the
latter, Yes will need to welcome Anderson (and hopefully also Wakeman)
back and be willing to tour less often and less intensively. Choosing
the latter path can burnish Yes's once-secure status as the most
important, successful, and long-lasting band in the progressive rock
genre. To choose the former, is to throw in the towel on a band that
deserves so much better."
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 23:56
| I read the article--and I understand where he's coming from---as a long time fan, I think Yes as it should be, classic line-up--will never be--because it can't be---one last special concert to be filmed---maybe---but as a working band, this is it. Jon as a songwriter has not been very good for some time--and while he still sings good, it's hit or miss for a big live rock show----and only Howe seems to amaze in live performance---I think it's hard to reconcile this for some fans. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 21 2013 at 00:42
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Since they are in indeed in their sixties already, the question is should it be fussed about so much. By this logic, if one of the persons who co created the music dies, the band should never play again. I know Led Zep did make that decision (doh, they reunited too!!! ) but it is not a kind of thinking I agree with. Performance of a piece of music exists independent of the act of conceiving it. If rock does not accept performance as a legitimate form of art divorced from personalities and names, it will never become 'timeless'. And Jon Anderson was one part of ABWH so that argument is tenuous anyway. |