Subgenres you haven't explored yet?
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Topic: Subgenres you haven't explored yet?
Posted By: Polymorphia
Subject: Subgenres you haven't explored yet?
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 22:38
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Are there any prog subgenres on PA you haven't explored yet? Prog-related and Proto-Prog count as well. Suggestions are welcome. I have never explored "Indo Prog/Raga Rock" nor "Rock Progressivo Italiano" nor "Neo-Prog" nor "Tech/Extreme Prog Metal." 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 22:49
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Zeuhl, RPI, and Prog Electronic. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 22:53
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^I haven't listened to a lot of Zeuhl, but from what I have, I think you would like it. Off the top of my head, the only subgenre I can think of that I haven't explored to at least the extent of a band or two is Indo-Prog/Raga Rock. But there are a few others that I'm quite ignorant of, having heard only a minimal amount of music from them: Neo-prog, Krautrock, and Canterbury in particular. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 22:56
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^Canterbury is amazing. Small but oh-so consistent. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 23:08
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I've pretty much explored every sub genre on the site to some degree. I don't have much experience in Kraut or Indo, but I've heard enough of them to know what's what. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 23:28
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Experimental/Post Metal Indo-Prog/Raga Rock Neo-Prog Tech/Extreme Prog Metal Various Genres/Artists (I have no clue)
 ... You mean you are not doing well with the likes of Can, Neu!, and TD? |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:Posted By: Master of Time
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 23:38
| I've listened to a little of every genre, but there are two subgenres that I've only really listened to two artists out of each: Progressive Electronic (Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze), and Tech/ Extreme Prog Metal (Opeth and Mastodon). Though I only recently explored Krautrock, and I haven't really explored Neo Prog, Experimental/Post Metal, and Zeuhl very thoroughly as they don't interest me much. |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 23:44
| i've listened to a bit of the metal stuff, but its appeal generally eludes me... For example, the first, oh, 6 minutes or so of Green Carnation's "Light of Day" is great, but then they go and ruin it... As for Opeth, Queensryche, Dream Theatre, et al, it's just not to my taste. I'd rather listen to Future Sound of London and Burial, the Flaming Lips and Radiohead and Sigur Ros.... As far as Zeuhl goes: No. Just...: No. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 23:51
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Indo/Raga only. While I certainly have my favorites, I find good music in all of the other subs. Krautrock probably being my least favorite, but it may well be there are some hidden treasures there as well. Maybe I'm too easy to please?
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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 23:55
| What entails "exploring"? Listening intesively to a number of realeases or just getting a first impression. There are some sub-genres where I pretty quickly realised that they do not really appeal to me, like Zeuhl or RIO/AvantProg. I do not really feel like exploring further. On the other hand I am not too familiar with Canterbury but am quite willing to look further into it. |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 00:30
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Indo/Raga is the one I'm the least familiar with, but even there I know some artists. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 01:33
QFT. Subgenres I'm very limited with are: - Experimental/Post-Metal - Heavy Prog - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock - Krautrock - Neo-Prog - Prog Folk - Progressive Electronic - Progressive Metal - Psychedelic/Space Rock - RPI ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 01:57
| Haven't listened to much RPI |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 03:07
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Of course I'm nobody to judge anyone's tastes, but RPI and Neo are really worth exploring, many gems in there!
I have superficial knowledge of all subgenres but some which I am quite ignorant about are
- Indo / Raga
- Post Rock / Math
- Tech / Extreme / Experimental Post metal
- Krautrock
- Electronic / Space
there's simply too much good music out there, no time and money to dig it all!
"I know what I like, and I like what I know"
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 03:10
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I've tried all of the genres, but I tend not to dig too deep into most of them anymore...and I flat out stay as far away as I can from stuff like neo/symph (with the exception of, like, Yes). ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 05:07
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Haven't listened much to Post/math but I have liked all that I've heard, in particular "From Monument to Masses". I'm not very keen with extreme metal but I quite like Arcturus. Currently neo-prog is what I listen less but even there I can find good stuff ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 05:14
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Pretty much dabbled in all subgenres, to different degrees. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 13:28
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As far as Indo-Prog goes, I've only listened to Shakti (who are amazing by the way). I've only recently started to explore Zeuhl and its already turning out to be one of my favorite prog subgenres. I plan to have a few Magma albums this Christmas. Avant-prog/RIO is another one I've only recently gotten into. I guess I haven't explored prog electronic as much as I should. And I did somewhat explore neo-prog a long time ago (and hated it), but my appreciation of music has changed so much from that point that I might as well not have. All I remember from it anyway is synth pads, slightly overproduced guitars, and lots of sentimentality. But, who knows, that may be what I like about it if I give it a good listen. I've also had limited experience with Canterbury. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 13:31
I've found Zeuhl to be very addicting. Many people recommend 4 Visions by Eskaton, but it's a bit boring compared to MDK, Kohntarkosz, and Eros (Dun). |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 13:35
Prog-folk is amazing. I recommend ignoring Tull for a bit and checking out Comus (First Utterance), Jan Dukes de Grey (Mice and Rats in the Loft), and Strawbs (Ghosts and Grave New World). |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 14:47
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Indo-raga, Zeuhl, Tech / Extreme / Experimental Post metal
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 15:16
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Indo prog (that seems to be the most popular answer) Tech/Extreme metal Those are two I doubt I will ever really explore, but who knows, maybe one of these days I'll get on a death metal kick. Just really starting to explore RIO and post rock. Have a wide variety of: Symph, Eclectic, Heavy, Prog Metal, Neo, Zeuhl, Canterbury and RPI ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 17:28
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Indo Prog Exp/Post Metal Krautrock Post Rock/Math Rock RIO/Avant Prog Zehul Prog electronic Don't know a lot about Electronic and Krautrock, but I want to explore them. The other genres... they're just not for me.
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 17:33
No, I'm just not terribly familiar with their music. Can is one band that I do know; I like them, and plan to explore more of their catalog. I'm sure I'll get around to listening to more Krautrock some day. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 17:37
Amon Duul II's Yeti is a good entry point. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 18:00
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^Listening right now
------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 18:21
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 18:22
I like rock music.  So does AH, I think.  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 19:36
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I'm not a huge advocate or fan of Neo-Prog, but IQ is one band that i actually like. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 20:52
What are you talking about? Rock music is of the devil. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 21:24
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Prog Metal Indo RPI
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 22:05
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I'm really surprised at the number of people who haven't check out RPI. It's such a phenomenal subgenre. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: RedNightmareKing
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 22:34
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Indo Prog
Krautrock ZeuhlProgressive Electronic A friend of mine tried getting me into Magma for Zeuhl, but it just didn't really click with me. I should probably try again. As for the other three, I just haven't had a starting/reference point. ------------- I consider drone metal to be progressive... |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 22:47
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My thoughts exactly Andy. People who already likes Symphonic can't go wrong with RPI, especially with the classic stuff!
I explored pretty much every genre just to know what I don't like, and that is:
Prog Electronic (sorry, but too boring)
Post Rock (again boring)
Neo Prog (not entirely though, I like a few bands)
And most of the post 2000 metal stuff seems too sterile and corny for me, though there are stuff I really like.
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 05:23
I've tried Comus and remember thinking that they were alright and worth another listen. The other two I haven't listened to and shall investigate. And if you wanna try out some more Canterbury, I recommend both of Hatfield And The North's two albums, Egg - The Polite Force, and any of the well-regarded albums by Caravan. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 06:26
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post-rock/math rock |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 06:37
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Indo/Raga is the only sub I havent listened to anything from. There are a few others that I'm not particularly well versed in, mainly Zeul, Post/Math- Rock, Krautrock, and Electronic. With the first two I havent found much I care aout so far but may do at some point, the other two I really dont care for. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 09:10
Will do! |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 10:05
excellent suggestion. I would add also the GONG's flying teapot trilogy. For Zeuhl I suggest starting with Xing Sa, Eskaton, Setna, Eider Stallaire and Universal Totem Orchestra which are probably the easiest to approach, before getting on Magma, Shun-Niggurath and so on. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 10:45
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I have really researched most of the genres here, but with RPI I feel I need a tour guide, such a staggering amount of little known bands..it is almost like a all-in or nothing thing with RPI :P
my small humble list, now I am a bit of a completest so bands I do list I have all the albums or most of them: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, Delerium, Festa Mobile, I Quelli, Jacula, Le Orme, L'Uovo di Colombo, PFM, Goblin, Balletto DiBronzo, Area, Maxophone, Osanna, Museo Rosenbach .. ones I have properly labeled anyway I know I have more of the newer RPI albums released in the last few years too.. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 11:22
There are so many bands to explore in RPI, but it won't be effective to list all my favorites so I will just name a few if your interested. The must have by my taste are: Cervello Biglietto Per L'inferno Locanda Delle Fate Osanna - Palepoli Picchio Dal Pozzo Semiramis Reale Accademia Di Musica |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 12:09
I've actually listened to the teapot trilogy. Good stuff. And I actually couldn't get in to Zeuhl until I listened to Magma and Dun, oddly enough. Who needs accessibility?  |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 15:17
Or you could just start with PFM and go from there.  ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 15:35
Just finished listening; loved it. It reminds me of something I would hear on 88.1 KDHX, my local independent radio station. Raw, immediate, and idiosyncratic. I liked it more than Can, actually. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 15:36
You didn't read his full post, he already did. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 16:47
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 17:00
While most would probably disagree with me, I think Banco is a better introduction to RPI than PFM or Orme. They just have a pinch more of that saucy Italian vibe  . And better vocals.  ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 17:16
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The most popular groups in a sub are not always the 'best' to start off with. PFM is the most popular RPI group and Sigur Ros is the most popular Post Rock group, but while I like both RPI and Post Rock I never cared for those two groups. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 17:37
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Posted By: Mr. Mustard
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 18:43
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Canterbury, Neo, Electronic I should look into. Zheul, Krautrock, Indo, and Avant-prog will probably never click for me though. :( ------------- 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 18:46
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 18:46
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You should check out Shakti from Indo. It's a side project of John McLaughlin and simply amazing. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 22:20
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Never listened to any prog electronic or krautrock, and only a tiny bit of avant/RIO. Most of it just grates on my ears.I've recently decided to explore zheul. Magma isn't really doing it for me, though. Are there any other bands in the genre I should try before calling it quits? ------------- "I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...." |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 22:56
| ^ There are some suggestions at the end of the previous page. |
Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 23:26
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^ Ah, thank you. I'll give some of those bands a listen. ------------- "I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...." |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 22:52
| Math Rock. Does Zappa count as part of that genre? |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 12 2012 at 23:36
Currently Zappa is in RIO/Avant. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |