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Topic: Help with a rhyme
Posted By: refugee
Subject: Help with a rhyme
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 07:30
I’m translating a children’s book from Danish to Norwegian. It’s about a car-crazed duck called Axel, The author rhymes Skoda with Toyota, which I believe is perfect in Danish but unfortunately less good in Norwegian, where the distiction between d and t is much more audible. Do you know any car brand or model that rhymes with either Skoda or Toyota?

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 07:41
How about Skoda, off roader?

No hang on that onkly works in English...sorry.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 07:42
How does Skoda/ Rover sound in Norwegian?

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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 07:51
Skoda/Toyota sounds better, but thanks anyway.

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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 07:56
I’m sorry that I bothered you, now I found this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coda_%28electric_car%29" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coda_%28electric_car%29

The rhyme works perfectly in Norwegian!


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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 08:35
If you're changing a car brand - you might as well change both rhymes. I'm not sure how many children are familiar with Coda. How bout Peugeot and Renault?


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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 09:03
The author has already used:

Alfa Romeo/Ford Mondeo
Bugatti/Maserati (not a perfect rhyme, but I kept it)
Lamborghini/Morris Mini

and

Peugeot/Renault

She has also used more uncommon names like Callaway Coupé (I googled it and found that Callaway is an engine design company who is notable for their modification of Chevrolet cars, especially Corvette), so I don’t think Coda is too odd in the setting. But thanks! Beer

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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 09:22
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

If you're changing a car brand - you might as well change both rhymes. I'm not sure how many children are familiar with Coda. How bout Peugeot and Renault?


That’s actually a very good idea – if I (or someone else) could find another rhyme that’s not been used in the book already. I’ll keep it open for now, and I appreciate any suggestions.


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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 09:26
Skoda --> Pagani Zonda,

Toyota --> AC Cobra

maybe

i have no idea, but the rules for rhyming phoneticly is quite strickt Stern Smile


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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 10:03
What if I used Opel Kadett/Chevrolet Corvette? Maybe that’s better than the obscure Coda …

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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 10:05
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Skoda --> Pagani Zonda,

Toyota --> AC Cobra

maybe

i have no idea, but the rules for rhyming phoneticly is quite strickt Stern Smile

They don'y rhyme at all in English


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 10:06
Mercedes Benz / Kia Carens?

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 10:20
Skoda / Hyundai?



Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 10:21
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Mercedes Benz / Kia Carens?


Very good suggestion! I have to think about it – if I choose it, I would have to do another replacement, becase the cars mentioned in this passage are:

Chrysler, Ferrari, Callaway Coupé, Audi, Mercedes Benz, Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Ford Mondeo, Bentley, Bugatti, Jeep, Maserati, Passat, Lamborghini, Jaguar, Morris Mini, Porsche, Peugeot, Rolls Royce and Renault.

Then comes this troublesome line which includes:

Aston Martin, Skoda, Seat and Toyota.

After that it’s Saab, Suzuki, Chevrolet and Mazda.

So If I choose the Mercedes, I’ll have to replace the first one with another brand/model, and if I choose the Corvette, I have to find another car to replace the second Chevrolet.


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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 10:25
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Skoda / Hyundai?


You must pronounce them totally diferently in France that's all I can say.


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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 10:59
I’ve made up my mind. It’s Mercedes Benz/Kia Carens. I replaced the first Mercedes with Aston Martin (it was easy to make it fit with the rythm, and I couldn’t use it later anyway). So thanks a lot to all of you, and special thanks to Moris (clarke2001) for making me think "outside the box" and someone_else for finding the solution!

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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 11:22
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Skoda --> Pagani Zonda,

Toyota --> AC Cobra

maybe

i have no idea, but the rules for rhyming phoneticly is quite strickt Stern Smile
 
The Pagani Zonda would rhyme better with Honda.


Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 19 2012 at 12:29
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

Skoda --> Pagani Zonda,

Toyota --> AC Cobra

maybe

i have no idea, but the rules for rhyming phoneticly is quite strickt Stern Smile
 
The Pagani Zonda would rhyme better with Honda.


Zonda and Honda is indeed a perfect rhyme, and it would have worked well. But now I’ve sent my translation to the editor, and I’m happy with the Benz/Carens rhyme.

Btw, I did this translation for the Swedish Läsrörelsen whose goal is to make children read more and develop a good language. The book will be printed in several hundred thousand copies and given to all the children who choose a Bok Happy Meal menue at a McDonalds’s restaurant in Norway. So it’s one half idealism, one half big business. Last year I translated some wonderful nonsense verses by the Swedish poet Lennart Hellsing, so they really choose high quality for the children.


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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
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