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Topic: Worst subject in school?
Posted By: PyramidMeetsTheEye
Subject: Worst subject in school?
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:52
I so freaking hate math,useless stuff why the f**k will i need an freaking linear function?
so what are your most hated subjects in school




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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:55
It was maths and PE.

Although I like maths now.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:31
Structural Analysis in the '80's.

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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 09:08
I joined my colleagues in celebrating not doing math after the 10th grade through bacchanalian festivities, burnings of the manuals and quickly forgetting everything we ever learned. 

But every subject done in school was crap, anyway. 


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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 09:15
In high school, it was Chemistry.  I found it interesting, but I never got the hang of how to balance equations, which pretty much held me up from getting very far.

In college, I took a class in Greek Art and Architecture, and it totally went over my head.  I had no clue what was going on or how to memorize it or anything.

In grad school, I took a Managerial Accounting class, and though it was very interesting, it was also unbelievably hard.  I took the final exam with a bad cold, and somehow got a B minus.


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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 10:43
I guess math, I had to take it twice. Right now I am doing Chinese Language which is quite hard, but the teacher goes easy on me.

I also had to take Human Communications twice. And I managed to avoid doing languages until now.


I am a history major and those things don't really enter into it, you wouldn't think.



Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 10:53
I was in a German School (again, not only for Germans) in Quito and I had to take chemistry in German. That was a total nightmare. 

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 11:05
I did very poor in spelling and geography. They both seemed to be pretty pointless and dull subjects to me. There's no substance to them. Subjects which do not penetrate simple rote memorization of arbitrary facts carry no importance to me still.

Originally posted by PyramidMeetsTheEye PyramidMeetsTheEye wrote:

why the f**k will i need an freaking linear function?


I don't know, probably to understand anything in modern life. If you're going to be ignorant about something, at least have valid reasons for it instead of inane cliches devoid of any truth.


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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 11:09
People are always saying "oh I'll never use this". What's wrong with expanding your general library of knowledge?


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 11:18
That's the more fundamental issue. There's a bit of apocrypha about Euclid which I always tell on the first day of the math courses I teach.

As it goes, a youth had just begun to study with Euclid. He had just learned Euclid's first theorem, which proves it is possible to produce an equilateral triangle from a given line. He asked Euclid, " What shall I get by learning these things?"

Euclid called for a slave and commanded, "Give him three-pence since he must make a gain of what he earns.", then he dismissed him from his tutelage.



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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 11:49
I had hard times with practical biology - by which I mean the dissections of fishes and giant cockroaches.


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 11:54
Ha, I knew it would be math before I even opened this. However, when I was young I did hate math, but I believe that was more because of the way I was taught. For some reason my school used these textbooks called Saxon math, and when I opened one as an adult I thought it was the most deeply stupid way to organize a math course possible. They tried to be "cumulative", so they would introduce a concept in one chapter but then only have 3 problems about that concept, the rest of it was stuff from before. So you had to keep doing the same sh*t over and over again through the whole year. The headmaster was a brilliant mathematician, I don't know why he loved them so much. Also early math is much less interesting (even if much more concretely useful, obviously). 

Foreign languages are very tedious for me.


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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 12:11
I was the opposite of the topic starter - loved math BECAUSE it was useful, hated subjects like History because they were not. I've heard the arguments against my point of view, but ask yourself - has there EVER been a job function OR ANY OTHER that you wouldn't have been able to perform had you not know when Columbus sailed the ocean blue? Note: teaching someone else when Columbus sailed the ocean blue does not count as an answer.   

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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 12:25
I hated languages at school.  I now think it was the teaching to a certain extent.  I still get nightmares over doing French in the Language Lab!  Basically listening to tapes and repeating or answering q's.  You never knew if the teacher was listening in!  Torture.
 
I can speak Spanish now and wish I could do more, at least I know I can do it. 
 
I enjoyed Maths.  I think the most irritating were English and Art because I so wanted to be good at them.  But wasn't Cry


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 12:29
Biology was tough last year, real tough. Genetics and all that.


Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 12:56
Its not that I would say "what's the point of math," "What's the point of language" but they are difficult subjects that may not be worth teaching everyone, except in general.

I had to take

Elementary School Math
Middle School Math
High School Math
College Math:
Level 1: Intro To Math (Tested Above [Miracle])
Level 2: Intro To Math 2 (Tested Above [Miracle])
Level 3: Intermediate Algebra (Took twice, Passed)
Level 4: Survey Of Mathematics (Passed)
Level 5-> not required for me
Hopefully no more

But that is a F LOAD of math. I don't need to know that much about the subject, and the end result is that I don't know, because I forget.

And in terms of basic decision making and judgement in non-scientific fields and among those just wanting an associates degree, such an extensive familiarity with math should not be a requirement, whether or not it could possibly be valuable in rounding out such decision making and judgement.
 


Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 13:13
It would appear you were given a very rudimentary understanding of mathematics. Shouldn't that be the point of early education? You received enough on the subject. I know this isn't a thread about mathematics so I don't want to keep going off on this, but if you hope to do anything even remotely technical or be well rounded, you needed what you got. 

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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 14:39
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I was in a German School (again, not only for Germans) in Quito and I had to take chemistry in German. That was a total nightmare. 

WHAT?


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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 15:54
Math.

Cliche I know, just can't f**king do it.
I could be semi asleep and get A's and B's through all my other classes but I had to work my ass off in Math to get straight C's and occasionally a B. My final semester of HS (maybe it finally was pounded into my brain enough) I got a final grade of A- in pre calc and almost died.

Just can't do it, and it's frustrating because I know it technically should be simple...then you get frustrated more so.

Agreed, part of it was I never got "why" all this stuff was. Maybe if I had a math theory class it would've helped. Just was numbers and triangles on a paper to me.
I also suffered from the classic "why do I need this?"
Problem was I originally went to college for Meteorology which turned out to be applied calculus...so it required mountains of math, Ouch Realizing it would've taken me 7 years and a lot of misery I dropped that major like my 2nd dayCry


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 17:05
Study Hall

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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 18:38
I've forgotten more math than you'll ever learn, sonny jim.  Wacko

Also, this thread is at the end of the first page (maybe onto the second by now), this forum is full of people of all nations, and there hasn't been an argument yet over whether "math" or "maths" is correct?




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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 19:21
Chemistry is an objectively bad (pseudo) subject.

Dynamics/mechanics are also pretty pain-inducing

Originally posted by PyramidMeetsTheEye PyramidMeetsTheEye wrote:

I so freaking hate math,useless stuff why the f**k will i need an freaking linear function?



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 19:26
math by far,  everything else I enjoyed or could do well if I applied myself



Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 20:31
I'd say probably chemistry. All the labs are pretty tough and I just can't get the hang of balancing those equations! I actually really like math and it is essential and important, as is science.
My best subjects would have to be Music and geography.


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 22:45
I probably would have liked math and math-related subjects more if I was taught in some way what exactly I was doing. 

I don't know what utility a function or an equation is supposed to have in the real world. I'm not sure I ever knew. I was just plugging in numbers and solving for x for 10+ years. Of course most people hate math; most people don't look at numbers and just "get" them. And when educators give you plug and chug bullsh*t for all your education without attaching meaning to it, you should be able to understand the malaise and resentment.

I did worst at Chemistry and Algebra II (C and B respectively) in high school. They're just hard concepts to grasp unless you care about them, and with all the other crap we're learning and extracurricular activities and stuff, they go to the bottom of the Care pile.


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 22:47
I understand the disdain for math education, but  I don't understand the disdain for the subject itself. I especially don't understand why people feel no shame bragging about their complete ineptitude with mathematics.

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 22:50
I'm actually kind of embarrassed. It's not like I'm proud of it. Calculus would probably be really helpful to me with acoustics and all that, but plenty of people have been successful in music and music technology without kicking ass in calculus anyway. Besides if I stared wide-eyed and stunned at algebra, there's hardly a point with calculus now.

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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 23:07
Probably classes that require large amounts of writing and/or work, because I'm lazy. LOL I've enjoyed my math and chemistry classes so far, but I've not gone very far in either yet.


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 23:07
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I was in a German School (again, not only for Germans) in Quito and I had to take chemistry in German. That was a total nightmare. 

WHAT?
Oh sorry Caio I guess that wasn't clear. Let's retry. 

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I was in a German School (again, not only for Germans) in Quito and I had to take chemistry in German. That was a total nightmare. 

Yes. It was a nightmare. Even taking the damn class in my language would've been horrible. 

I have to add that I used to enjoy math up to the point where I stopped paying attention and I started to suck (which didn't change until almost at my current age). I also have to say that everything I saw here in college math I had already seen in high school in my country. 

Something has to be said about schools all around the world not making students actually care about what they are learning or think what they are learning is of any value. I have always been thirsty for knowledge and in some ways my school helped but in some ways it didn't.


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 23:19
Originally posted by PyramidMeetsTheEye PyramidMeetsTheEye wrote:

I so freaking hate math,useless stuff why the f**k will i need an freaking linear function?
so what are your most hated subjects in school

That sucks. I used to be quite a nerd in such matter. Now that I got lazier, ...

On the topic: if we are talking high school, ... AP English 5-6. God, there were so many obligations to reading, writing, and analyzing, YH!

Here, in the university, ... CS302. Man, this s$%t was painstaking. My partner was doing all the work writing the code, and I couldn't even do very well in theory.


Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 02:17
I was never too fond of biology.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 02:37
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I understand the disdain for math education, but  I don't understand the disdain for the subject itself. I especially don't understand why people feel no shame bragging about their complete ineptitude with mathematics.
hey I wasn't happy about it,  it was hell getting through the advanced stuff--  no bragging here, my friend



Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 02:38
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

I was never too fond of biology.


I was so not fond of biology that I never once have studied it in any capacity


Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 03:31
Algebra.

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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 03:34
Social studies, Religion, Computer knowledge...
On the other hand, other than music and art, i also love math, which alot of people seems to dislike thouroughly Tongue
 
To me, really understanding math is like really understanding a foreign language that not many people know. Being good at maths make me feel like i'm mastering one of those languages, and it makes me feel slightly better than most people Tongue Maths may not be fun to everyone, but trust me, the deeper you get into it, the more fun it gets!


Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 07:34
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I was in a German School (again, not only for Germans) in Quito and I had to take chemistry in German. That was a total nightmare. 

WHAT?
Oh sorry Caio I guess that wasn't clear. Let's retry. 

No, that was clear enough, it's just that this is mind-blowing (teaching a subject in another language). 


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 07:49
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I understand the disdain for math education, but  I don't understand the disdain for the subject itself. I especially don't understand why people feel no shame bragging about their complete ineptitude with mathematics.
Same here. I'm not especially great at maths, though it was probably my best subject at school (I hated school so much that all subjects qualify as my worse subject - I left school at 16, my 6 years further education came through the laborious process of day-release and evening classes before I could go to University full-time), I only have a passing interest in theoretical maths but when it came to applied maths and applied physics everything just clicks into place and the world just seems to make more sense. I can't really imagine trying to understand the world without knowing mathematics, which is probably why I find philosophy such a tedious yawn (and pointless endeavour) ... fortunately that was one subject never covered while I was in school so while it would be my absolute worse subject, it simply isn't.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 08:31
German and geography were subjects I was quite indifferent to. On the other hand, I liked maths and chemistry.

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 17:54
Back in highschool I hated Latin, but mostly because of the teacher. And it was pointless too (we were a science class and we weren't "learning" Latin as a part of a classical education, but because of the taxonomies in biology being in Latin - most stupid rationale ever).

Also, the math that was stuffed into us was excessively advanced. I have no problems with maths in itself though. But we really didn't need Analysis, Trigonometry and so forth.


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 18:20
^ but that's not too advanced. Tongue

Doing Romanian instead (teacher being the same and gymnasium "finals" - Capacitate - given the priority) easily made Latin the one subject we wasted our chance with. 


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