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Topic: Jon Davison with YesPosted By: cstack3
Subject: Jon Davison with Yes
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 00:12
Rehearsal, posted on Facebook by the official Yes FB site:
Replies: Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 06:35
Another Jon, eh? Best wishes.
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Posted By: spknoevl
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 07:51
Wow, talk about a generation gap. It looks like some kid sitting in with his grandfather's band.
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 08:00
spknoevl wrote:
Wow, talk about a generation gap. It looks like some kid sitting in with his grandfather's band.
Heh. One of these guys is not like the others. One of these guys just doesn't belong...
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 08:45
Evolver wrote:
spknoevl wrote:
Wow, talk about a generation gap. It looks like some kid sitting in with his grandfather's band.
Heh. One of these guys is not like the others. One of these guys just doesn't belong...
Let's check his age first before we draw such conclusions. Maybe this guy just looks well-preserved.
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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 09:37
Well, based on his photos and what life history I've found for him, I'd guess he's in his early to mid 40's (he's best friends with Taylor Hawkins, the drummer of the Foo Fighters, who was born in 1972).
In any case, young enough to be the child of any of the other Yes members..................
Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 09:49
i really wonder how long these guys can do it. if they go as long as Willie Nelson, we've got another 10-15 years of Starship Trooper....for good or ill. i am interested to hear what these guys sound like with the new jon. i had this idea that i was going to become a yes completest. however, after revisiting some of the late 80s-00s, no way. it's just doesn't hold up. so, i put on Relayer. damn! (fly from here is the best thing they've put out since 90125)
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 12:44
zumacraig wrote:
i really wonder how long these guys can do it. i am interested to hear what these guys sound like with the new jon. i had this idea that i was going to become a yes completest. however, after revisiting some of the late 80s-00s, no way. it's just doesn't hold up. so, i put on Relayer. damn! (fly from here is the best thing they've put out since 90125)
Looks like we are two peas in a pod, you and I.
People have criticised YES for getting old. That is ignorant. YES are about playing music. And they still play(except for Geoff Downes who needs to practice more and do less social media) at unreal levels. Does Steve look old?, sure.
Well, this is not a Justin Bieber production it is actual music. If anybody cares to actually "listen" to what these guys are playing, they will be blown away. Steve does an amazing solo on YIND on Live From Lyon!
I too am anxious to hear Jon Davison, his work on Glass Hammer is clarion & crystal clear. He has the pipes. Do I miss JA, of course I do and when JA & YES stop their little hissy fits, I will be right there as always.
Yes, I do think Fly From Here is their best work since Drama. 90125 was good & popular but it is was over-produced 4 chord verse-chorus-verse. One can hear that style of pop rock only so much, so yeah, I enjoyed 90125, saw YES twice on that tour, but the music does not have much staying power to me now. It seems I can play Drama over and over again, and I still really enjoy it.
I hope YES does a concert DVD with this lineup. It would be great to have Machine Messiah & Fly From Here on video to blast in my living room!
@Chuck: Thanks for the picture.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 12:59
^ I don't criticise Yes for getting old. I criticise them for acting like a bunch of spoilt brats when it comes to lineup farces.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:23
^I don't criticise them at all. Nothing to do with me. Anyway..another photo
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:25
Squire looks like he's up the duff in that one
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:26
Trying not to picture Steven Wilson singing for Yes.
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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:29
I keep thinking Steven Wilson is singing for Yes now based on these photos
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:37
lazland wrote:
^ I don't criticise Yes for getting old. I criticise them for acting like a bunch of spoilt brats when it comes to lineup farces.
Damn pesky Brits,
Do you mean "spoiled"? We Yanks rid ourselves of that old tart the Queen, must we teach her few remaining subects basic verb conjugation as well??? Oy Vey!
Seriously, just to split hairs whith my favorite English Gentleman: Most bands break up over control & money, after only a few years these days. PInk Floyd broke, 32 years ago! So the fact that YES can continue at all in any line-up is really
beating the odds.
By the way, Laz: Do you think the new line-up with Jon Davison is a farce as well? Just curious.
Cheers!
DM
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:45
Snow Dog wrote:
^Geoff Downes is wearing a Keith Emerson T-Shirt.
Too bad Geoff doesn't seem to be able to play even "half" as good as KE.
I loved Drama when it came out and I still do. I saw Benoit David YES twice to see Machine Messiah live, but
in recent live concerts w/YES Downes has been embarassingly pathetic. There is a video of Downes playing HOTS, he ruins it so bad that Steve Howe screams: NO! NO! NO! during the live show! It seems like Downes is lost
on keyboards if he is not playing basic 4/4 music like he does in Asia. Does Downes in YES drive anybody else crazy?
I don't think Downes is taking his role is YES serious at all. He sees himself as some famous rock star, so he doesn't think he needs to practice anymore...
Oh no, now I am bashing YES, like that guy Laz....
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:49
Wow, I am behind on the times. Did they get rid of the other guy already? Fly From Here wasn't terrible... wasn't great though.
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:53
Dennis, you didn't ask me, but I think it's been a farce for quite some time. Even before Jon (the original one) left. Now it's become parody.
Having said that, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt all the way up through 2004 or so. After that, I just hear a band going through the motions. The new album is well recorded and performed, I suppose, but it's a bit "smooth prog" (like smooth jazz). I think geriatric prog was my personal thought while listening to it. Sure there are some lovely parts even so, and Howe's solo on the last track is every bit as good as some of his older ones, but as a whole it just seems very sleepy and slow. And it's not even written by actual members of Yes! (well, they had to get Geoff back in just so they could pretend it was a Yes album and not a Buggles album)
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 13:56
Snow Dog wrote:
At first I thought this was a picture of Yes with Steven Wilson. That hair and girlish figure.
Edit: Beaten by darkshade.
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 14:12
infandous wrote:
Dennis, you didn't ask me, but I think it's been a farce for quite some time. Even before Jon (the original one) left. Now it's become parody.
Having said that, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt all the way up through 2004 or so. After that, I just hear a band going through the motions. The new album is well recorded and performed, I suppose, but it's a bit "smooth prog" (like smooth jazz). I think geriatric prog was my personal thought while listening to it. Sure there are some lovely parts even so, and Howe's solo on the last track is every bit as good as some of his older ones, but as a whole it just seems very sleepy and slow. And it's not even written by actual members of Yes! (well, they had to get Geoff back in just so they could pretend it was a Yes album and not a Buggles album)
I can't argue with a lot of what you are saying.
I have seen all the YES tours in the 2000s and I was shocked why YES repeated the same exact setlist on back to back tours, (the last two that Jon Anderson did with them) YES made this fatal mistake in 1978 & 1979 and the band split soon after. I thought that all the prior YES tours from 1996 reunion were great, Masterworks, heck even the Billy-Goat Tour! And then Rick came back and they did 2 tours with different set lists, they were great! But yeah, when I saw JA in YES with the same exact set list on the next year's tour, I felt like YES was spent and I was a sucker for buying that ticket.
That was YES' last tour with JA.
On Fly From Here, I do enjoy it(The title suite & last song) but it is sad that Squire & Howe had to rely on a 30 year old idea from a Buggle to make an album. Chris & Steve can not write anymore??? WTF???
But I do have a hidden agenda with YES. Their classic songs, YESSONGS era, suck on video, cause the technology
of the day. So I would like to see as much YES live, in high definition, for future enjoyment. I have in high definition:
YES Symphonic & The 35th Anniversary and all the other recent releases and they are awesome!!!!!
I know you will get your 5.1 setup going and you will know what I mean.
Having RUSH R30 and Time Machine in high-def is priceless to me. Is Geddy Lee's voice kinda gone? Sure, but there are no hi-fi concert vids of the classic era Rush, so I will glady take & pay for what bands like YES & RUSH can put out(they have proven it can be at a high level)
Yeah, Fly from Here was a bit over produced and does not sound at all organic or natural, but everything today is overproduced and cut & pasted, in general.
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 14:17
Yea that must be Swilson will blonde hair.
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 15:00
darkshade wrote:
Trying not to picture Steven Wilson singing for Yes.
Jon does look quite a bit like him.
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Posted By: jacob s cracker
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 15:26
Oo-er.
I read the name of the thread as Joy Division with Yes. Must say I'm slightly dissappointed
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 15:30
^Chris Squire would do an amazing rendition of Love Will Tear Us Apart.
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Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 15:38
When are the cosmic Yes fans going to chime in this thread with a little more unconditional love and understanding?
(teasing only a little)
I say whatever Yes does, more power to them.
Most classical artists stay actively touring well into their 90's. Yes deserve at least double that.
Remember, the original guys are really St. Germain characters faking their aging.
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 16:09
brainstormer wrote:
When are the cosmic Yes fans going to chime in this thread with a little more unconditional love and understanding?
I thought I did that already. (Though I did bash Geoff Downes on keys quite a bit...)
I will say, if you haven't heard Glass Hammer - If. Check it out. (Uh, cause the new YES singer sang on that record) And yes he does dress his hair & tee shirts annoyingly like Steve Wilson.
Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 16:15
dennismoore wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
^Geoff Downes is wearing a Keith Emerson T-Shirt.
Too bad Geoff doesn't seem to be able to play even "half" as good as KE.
I loved Drama when it came out and I still do. I saw Benoit David YES twice to see Machine Messiah live, but
in recent live concerts w/YES Downes has been embarassingly pathetic. There is a video of Downes playing HOTS, he ruins it so bad that Steve Howe screams: NO! NO! NO! during the live show! It seems like Downes is lost
on keyboards if he is not playing basic 4/4 music like he does in Asia. Does Downes in YES drive anybody else crazy?
I don't think Downes is taking his role is YES serious at all. He sees himself as some famous rock star, so he doesn't think he needs to practice anymore...
Oh no, now I am bashing YES, like that guy Laz....
last summer geoff was really low in the mix. i hope they tour some smaller venues like they did for the ladder tour. they cannot do arenas anymore. even with jon, they didn't sell enough tickets.
@Dennis-yeah, 90125 is about half good. it's not prog, but really good pop. chris is too low in the mix though. cinema>leave it is awesome. as is hold on and it can happen.
Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 16:18
jacob s cracker wrote:
Oo-er.
I read the name of the thread as Joy Division with Yes. Must say I'm slightly dissappointed
me too! i thought they new order and yes = new joy division!!
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 17:08
For those coming in late, I suppose it is about time to reintroduce this thread, where Chris explains everything:
Posted By: Phideaux
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 20:34
jacob s cracker wrote:
Joy Division with Yes
Ooooh, that would be a GREAT one. Mash Up of She's Lost Control with Heart Of The Sunrise!
Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 21:15
Wow, Steven Wilson gets all kinds of work these days! And TV's Frank from MST3K is on bass!!
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 23:33
darkshade wrote:
Trying not to picture Steven Wilson singing for Yes.
Actually, that might be interesting, just to see what would happen if anyone as gloomy as Steven Wilson tried to sing "Close to the Edge" or "Roundabout."
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 02:10
Apart from all the line up changes turmoil, it's nice to see that they are still active as a band. It's almost 45 years now that the band is there, isn't it? Quite amazing.
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 08:17
Moogtron III wrote:
Apart from all the line up changes turmoil, it's nice to see that they are still active as a band. It's almost 45 years now that the band is there, isn't it? Quite amazing.
Hi Moogtron III,
You summed it up perfectly. The alternative to this is "no" touring YES. And I certainly do not support that, frankly
as the lads approach their 70's we should cherish every last tour, nobody has to buy a ticket if they are so put off...
Current YES concerts are no Yessongs Tour, but they do contain awesome moments that are prized additions
to any prog fan's music collection, for example, recent versions from Live From Lyon:
Astrall Traveller
Machine Messiah
Tempus Fugit
YIND - a nice surprise, amazing guitar work from Steve
(Can we get Parallels on an official release?)
Cheers!
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 11:24
dennismoore wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Apart from all the line up changes turmoil, it's nice to see that they are still active as a band. It's almost 45 years now that the band is there, isn't it? Quite amazing.
Hi Moogtron III,
You summed it up perfectly. The alternative to this is "no" touring YES. And I certainly do not support that, frankly
as the lads approach their 70's we should cherish every last tour, nobody has to buy a ticket if they are so put off...
Current YES concerts are no Yessongs Tour, but they do contain awesome moments that are prized additions
to any prog fan's music collection, for example, recent versions from Live From Lyon:
Astrall Traveller
Machine Messiah
Tempus Fugit
YIND - a nice surprise, amazing guitar work from Steve
(Can we get Parallels on an official release?)
Cheers!
You sure can. It's called Yesshows
(you know, their second ever live album, from 1980)
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 11:31
Horizons wrote:
Yea that must be Swilson will blonde hair.
Where? I don't see any blond hair on Davison.
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Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 11:33
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 12:05
infandous wrote:
You sure can. It's called Yesshows
(you know, their second ever live album, from 1980)
My dear infandous,
Haven't you got some work to do? Like hook up your 5.1 system??? Hmm..
Ok, I should have clarified, first: I bought Yesshows when you were still in diapers.
Second: I would like YES live recordings that are an upgrade from those that sound like they were recorded on a portable cassette player, such as Yessongs & Yesshows.
Uhm Kay???
Yeah, I love the more modern (1996 S.L.O. and more recent) YES live recordings for their hi-fi nature. I do love my bootlegs when there is no other option(the 1977 mono GFTO tour is my favourite boot) but there is no substitute for a hi-fi stereo mix or 5.1 mix of a concert.
Please do check out live TFK or YES or RUSH in 5.1 and you will see what I am on about.
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 12:07
HolyMoly wrote:
It's the beginning of a new love inside, to be an ever-opening flower.
Exactly.
That's what I'm talkin bout.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 12:46
I am actually excited for this lineup....Jon Davison has some serious vocalist chops, he has the Yes tradition from his former Yes trib band "Roundabout" as well as Glass Hammer projects, and he'll bring a much more mature stage presence than Benoit David! All that twirling around....
Looking forward to New Zealand Youtube concert postings to appear soon! In the meantime, check out Jon's imitation of, well, Jon.....
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 13:03
cstack3 wrote:
I am actually excited for this lineup....Jon Davison has some serious vocalist chops, he has the Yes tradition from his former Yes trib band "Roundabout" as well as Glass Hammer projects,
Glad to see the Chicago chapter chime in here.
I totally agree with you Chuck on all counts and can I add? Can we get a 5.1 HiDef video recording of this lineup???
Can't wait.
I hope YES digs deep and opens up the setlist a bit. How bout:
Machine Messiah
Then
Parallels
On The Silent Wings Of Freedom
Fly From Here Suite
Sound Chaser (oops, sorry, Downes is on keyboards)
Dear Father
And You And I
The Gates of Delirium
encore:
Awaken
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 14:29
dennismoore wrote:
infandous wrote:
You sure can. It's called Yesshows
(you know, their second ever live album, from 1980)
My dear infandous,
Haven't you got some work to do? Like hook up your 5.1 system??? Hmm..
Ok, I should have clarified, first: I bought Yesshows when you were still in diapers.
Second: I would like YES live recordings that are an upgrade from those that sound like they were recorded on a portable cassette player, such as Yessongs & Yesshows.
Uhm Kay???
Yeah, I love the more modern (1996 S.L.O. and more recent) YES live recordings for their hi-fi nature. I do love my bootlegs when there is no other option(the 1977 mono GFTO tour is my favourite boot) but there is no substitute for a hi-fi stereo mix or 5.1 mix of a concert.
Please do check out live TFK or YES or RUSH in 5.1 and you will see what I am on about.
Sorry, I was 11 years old in 1980, so no diapers
As to the rest, I figured that was what you meant, but couldn't resist.
Also, I don't think Yesshows sounds bad at all, though certainly the quality could have been better. Yessongs on the other hand........well, it was the 70's I guess is the only excuse for the "sound" on that one (though the performance is the best I've ever heard from Yes).
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 14:32
dennismoore wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
I am actually excited for this lineup....Jon Davison has some serious vocalist chops, he has the Yes tradition from his former Yes trib band "Roundabout" as well as Glass Hammer projects,
Glad to see the Chicago chapter chime in here.
I totally agree with you Chuck on all counts and can I add? Can we get a 5.1 HiDef video recording of this lineup???
Can't wait.
I hope YES digs deep and opens up the setlist a bit. How bout:
Machine Messiah
Then
Parallels
On The Silent Wings Of Freedom
Fly From Here Suite
Sound Chaser (oops, sorry, Downes is on keyboards)
Dear Father
And You And I
The Gates of Delirium
encore:
Awaken
I would love to hear that...........with a decent keyboard player though. Maybe a new drummer too
Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 14:58
cstack3 wrote:
I am actually excited for this lineup....Jon Davison has some serious vocalist chops, he has the Yes tradition from his former Yes trib band "Roundabout" as well as Glass Hammer projects, and he'll bring a much more mature stage presence than Benoit David! All that twirling around....
Looking forward to New Zealand Youtube concert postings to appear soon! In the meantime, check out Jon's imitation of, well, Jon.....
there is definitely a market for good tribute bands. this is the best yes one i've heard.
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 14:59
They could as well have taken the occasion to replace Downes by Fred Schendel
Some questions:
What happened with Benoit? (forgive my ignorance...)
Will JD still sing with Glass Hammer? or did he quit them?
Will they be able to perform Fly From Here tracks live with JD? no copyright issues with BD lyrics?
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 15:01
I don't know ... I got to see them at their very best, and what I consider the greatest symphony/concerto ever put together by a rock band, in TFTO ... goodness ... almost 40 years ago ... wow ... and in all honesty, too much of the rest of the stuff is just a bunch of songs, that don't turn me on.
I like to close my eyes and live through a Mahler Symphony. I like to close my eyes and live through a Tchaikovsky Symphony. To me, The Wall is a symphony/opera done by Pink Floyd ... and sometimes, seeing some of these things, and what nots ... makes me feel old, and out of touch and that the "hits" are long gone and dead. And I would have paid to see Dream Theater with that orchestra ... yes I would ... but sadly, that is not something that many folks here can relate to or appreciate a whole lot. The musicianship alone ... I would not trade John Myoung for Yo Yo Ma.
I realize that most rock musicians do not think of themselves in terms of music, or history, and in the end, I find that sad ... I think many of them deserve a lot more credit than simply a rock band ... a solid bunch of musicians and folks that take music seriously ... but in the end ... I/we lose ... because of the fan nature of "fame" that most places are working with at this time. There is little appreciation for a whole lot else.
We need another revolution ... #10 this time?
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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 15:06
Gerinski wrote:
They could as well have taken the occasion to replace Downes by Fred Schendel
Some questions:
What happened with Benoit? (forgive my ignorance...)
Will JD still sing with Glass Hammer? or did he quit them?
Will they be able to perform Fly From Here tracks live with JD? no copyright issues with BD lyrics?
Benoit is out, Jon Davison is in. I don't think BD wrote any lyrics on the album, so no issues there.
JD is still a member of Glass Hammer.
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 15:31
infandous wrote:
Also, I don't think Yesshows sounds bad at all, though certainly the quality could have been better. Yessongs on the other hand........well, it was the 70's I guess is the only excuse for the "sound" on that one (though the performance is the best I've ever heard from Yes).
Yeah Dude,
Yessongs was recorded on a 4 track recorder. Yuck.
Yesshows came out in 1980, but the songs were from the 1976(was there '74?)1977 & 1 or 2 '78 tracks, and YES didn't seem to really upgrade the recording equipment from Yessongs. Yipes.
One mystery though.. I have ben searching for a YES 1977 Tour Sounboard or better recording. On all the YES forums, people claim that none exist, well, on Yesshows there is a recording of Parallels, which was played in 1977 only.
It is clearly a stereo mix, I think it says from Detroit. So where is the rest of that 1977 show???
I first saw YES in 1977 @MSG, the GFTO tour, I would love to have a better than audience recording of that show, it was like you said, YES when they were truly special. They played 3 encores that night. Full versions of
YIND
Roundabout
Starship Trooper
New York City has never been the same.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 16:27
Gerinski wrote:
They could as well have taken the occasion to replace Downes by Fred Schendel
Some questions:
What happened with Benoit? (forgive my ignorance...)
Will JD still sing with Glass Hammer? or did he quit them?
Will they be able to perform Fly From Here tracks live with JD? no copyright issues with BD lyrics?
Decent questions actually!
Benoit's photo still shows up on the Yes website, but I expect these to be updated soon with Davison's
It appears to me that B. David was given a rather brusque heave-ho after he had vocal problems! Maybe that brought back post-traumatic-stress-disorder back to the band, after going through it with Jon Anderson? (that's why I love that YouTube cartoon clip!)
Jon Davison's supposedly on loan from Glass Hammer, but anything can happen. If he makes the impact that I think he might, I believe he could be the long-term solution to their vocal problem. He might actually draw fans....I always got the impression that fans tolerated B. David rather than fully embraced him.
And, with Mssr. Squire in charge, I'm sure all the legal papers were long in order for Davison to sing anything he wants to sing with a Yes trademark on it! In fact, Davison might now become the main lyricist for the band....I could see them planning for a run-up CD to "Fly From Here."
Interesting stuff going on for an old band!
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 20:15
Gerinski wrote:
They could as well have taken the occasion to replace Downes by Fred Schendel
That's hilarious! Fred just posted this to the Glass Hammer Facebook page a few minutes ago:
Latest tweet from Geoff: "I can't praise Jon Davison's contribution to the New Yes enough. He is bringing out the best in the music, & all of us. Truly inspired. GD"
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 20:47
cstack3 wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
They could as well have taken the occasion to replace Downes by Fred Schendel
That's hilarious! Fred just posted this to the Glass Hammer Facebook page a few minutes ago:
Latest tweet from Geoff: "I can't praise Jon Davison's contribution to the New Yes enough. He is bringing out the best in the music, & all of us. Truly inspired. GD"
Ok, this quote by Downes just comes off as super phoney. I am a huge Glass Hammer fan and an admirer of Jon Davison, but GD's comments are way over the top. Perhaps if Mozart was re-animated and had joined YES, these comments would be on point. Anybody else smell B.S.???
I really do love Drama but I am losing what little respect I have left for Downes. I wish GD would go practice some more scales and leave the PR to the band's management.
And yes, I think Glass Hammer's Fred would be a hell of an upgrade on Keys in YES atm...
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 21:00
moshkito wrote:
I don't know ... I got to see them at their very best, and what I consider the greatest symphony/concerto ever put together by a rock band, in TFTO ... goodness ... almost 40 years ago ... wow ... and in all honesty, too much of the rest of the stuff is just a bunch of songs, that don't turn me on.
I like to close my eyes and live through a Mahler Symphony. I like to close my eyes and live through a Tchaikovsky Symphony. To me, The Wall is a symphony/opera done by Pink Floyd ... and sometimes, seeing some of these things, and what nots ... makes me feel old, and out of touch and that the "hits" are long gone and dead. And I would have paid to see Dream Theater with that orchestra ... yes I would ... but sadly, that is not something that many folks here can relate to or appreciate a whole lot. The musicianship alone ... I would not trade John Myoung for Yo Yo Ma.
I realize that most rock musicians do not think of themselves in terms of music, or history, and in the end, I find that sad ... I think many of them deserve a lot more credit than simply a rock band ... a solid bunch of musicians and folks that take music seriously ... but in the end ... I/we lose ... because of the fan nature of "fame" that most places are working with at this time. There is little appreciation for a whole lot else.
We need another revolution ... #10 this time?
Hi moshkito,
Very nice post.
I just think we need more musicians who care about composing and making music. I go back to the mid seventies and was quite put off by the whole 80's thing when corporations ruined music, then in 1992 Eric Johnson came along and showed me great music continues(Eric Johnson - Ah Via Musicom) granted, music has been taken over by the corporations and pop seekers but there still are bands that emerge who put music first.
I consider Glass Hammer to be such a band. I think The Flower Kings are that kinda band.
I hope more artists continue the great tradition that bands like YES seemed to pioneer.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 21:13
dennismoore wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
They could as well have taken the occasion to replace Downes by Fred Schendel
That's hilarious! Fred just posted this to the Glass Hammer Facebook page a few minutes ago:
Latest tweet from Geoff: "I can't praise Jon Davison's contribution to the New Yes enough. He is bringing out the best in the music, & all of us. Truly inspired. GD"
Ok, this quote by Downes just comes off as super phoney. I am a huge Glass Hammer fan and an admirer of Jon Davison, but GD's comments are way over the top. Perhaps if Mozart was re-animated and had joined YES, these comments would be on point. Anybody else smell B.S.???
I really do love Drama but I am losing what little respect I have left for Downes. I wish GD would go practice some more scales and leave the PR to the band's management.
And yes, I think Glass Hammer's Fred would be a hell of an upgrade on Keys in YES atm...
Thanks, DM! Great analysis! Downes is annoying as hell with his Social Media blather....I pissed him off when I assumed the "Master of Yuppets" role and got after him for slamming Yes fans! Needless to say, I was soon banned from the realm!
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 11:20
cstack3 wrote:
Thanks, DM! Great analysis! Downes is annoying as hell with his Social Media blather....I pissed him off when I assumed the "Master of Yuppets" role and got after him for slamming Yes fans! Needless to say, I was soon banned from the realm!
Dear cstack3,
Did your know that your charm is only equalled by your keen intellect which is only equalled by your hansome appearance(and did you know that was three equals?)? That was a double question, by the way....
Did you kow that all the above is equalled only by the exceptional custom made bass guitar you have? (Has anybody
asked you so many questions in such a short period, before?) Kinda like this:
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 11:41
cstack3 wrote:
Thanks, DM! Great analysis! Downes is annoying as hell with his Social Media blather....I pissed him off when I assumed the "Master of Yuppets" role and got after him for slamming Yes fans! Needless to say, I was soon banned from the realm!
Hey Dude,
Now comes the serious portion of our show....
Yeah man, I try not to be critical of an artist but when something is so over the top wrong, I do think as a paying customer I have a right to voice an opinion. I never cared for Billy Sherewood's over production and completely out matched abilities when he unbelievably got into YES, however I never spoke poorly of him unit I payed $$$ for an official YES live recording and Billy did a pathetically putrid, can't even call it a guitar solo at the end of Starship Trooper at a Universal Ampitheatre Show. It was so far beyond bad and this was YES, so it was truly absurd. So after that point I felt free to shout it from the Heavens, as it were.... This is YES we are talking about. Not Bon Jovi who perhaps picked a clunker on 2nd guitar.
Well to be consistent...
Even though I personally LOVE YES - Drama, when I heard the YES concert video where GD destroys HOTS worse that I ever could, no matter how drunk... The same little switch went off in my head. I said, this clown just destroyed a YES song live! From the video, the guitarist in the band(S.H.) was pretty pissed off as well.
So I do think that such appaling blunders allow for opinions. Last time I checked, fans like you & I have spent literally thousands of dollars supporting these bands, so if Geoff Downes or Billy Sherewood fan boys have problems, I would respectfully suggest, that Geoff & Billy spend a little more time practicing their instrument before they step on stage with YES, and not worry about opinions from people who actually pay these artists to be Rock Stars, and not have to work for a living like you & I.
And you & I.....
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 19:13
dennismoore wrote:
So I do think that such appaling blunders allow for opinions. Last time I checked, fans like you & I have spent literally thousands of dollars supporting these bands, so if Geoff Downes or Billy Sherewood fan boys have problems, I would respectfully suggest, that Geoff & Billy spend a little more time practicing their instrument before they step on stage with YES, and not worry about opinions from people who actually pay these artists to be Rock Stars, and not have to work for a living like you & I.
And you & I.....
HAH! Great rant! Yeah, Billy is basically a bassist first IMHO....then rhythm guitarist/vocalist. He does OK with CIRCA, but I thought his Conspiracy gig with Squire was mighty weak.
It amazes me how many tribute bands have musicianship at least as good as, if not MUCH better than, this touring Yes version! In the early 70's, nobody sounded like Squire....now, everybody has his body of material to practice to (myself included), so we can nail the sound down pretty well.
Singing alto-tenor whilst playing is, well, another story....
These guys are friends of mine, I would have suggested Steve Carney to fill in for Jon Anderson, but nobody listens to me (although I DID suggest Jon Davison long, long ago on PA!) I need to give bassist Chris Hook some hell about his stage wardrobe!! Hope you like this, DM! There's more out there. Sorry 'bout the sound quality, but you get the idea.
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 21:27
cstack3 wrote:
Dude, is that you on bass??? My baby is sleeping now so I can't play it, but if that is you, tomorrow I will blast it!
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 23:43
dennismoore wrote:
[QUOTE=cstack3]
Dude, is that you on bass??? My baby is sleeping now so I can't play it, but if that is you, tomorrow I will blast it!
Nah, hell no! His name is Chris Hook, a fine fellow! I once told him that I was going to be buried with my 1973 Rick 4001 and he replied, most appropriately, "Where are you going to be buried??" He can smoke me on bass!
I'm long remiss in flying back to England & seeing these fellows!! They are now gearing up to tour again, I'll let you know any updates.
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 09:42
There are two possible solutions for this mess. Actually three solutions. First is for Yes to pack it in and go and pursue hobbies of the rich and used to be famous like flying into space on Richard Branson's space plane or, second, get a f**king chick vocalist. At least it would give us something to look at while we,re listening to all the classics. Anderson even sounds like a chick when he gives interviews. A Yes cover band from Seattle, Washington called Parallells had a female vocalist for a while in 2007-08 named Robyn Dawn. They could call it Robyn Dawn with featuring the Yes cover band Yes. Or they could become a Yes jam band playing wicked cover versions of songs like Dark Star by The Grateful Dead. There's a few videos out on youtube with Robyn Dawn with Parallells. A particularily good one is Perpetual Change from 2008 complete with drum solo. Sorry I don't know how to add videos being from the mid 16th century..
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Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 10:01
cstack3 wrote:
Dude, from the still photo the bass player on the left is your twin, even same eyeglasses!
Great video. Do they play the entire song?
The guitarist on the right with the hollowbody is fabulous. Why is there a 2nd guitarist in the band?
If anything a YES tribute band needs a 2nd keyboard player, I would think...
Anyway, awesome video. I wish I didn't move to the sticks and I could get to see some of the great
YES & RUSH & Genesis & Pink Floyd cover bands....
Did you watch that video I posted? Those people were from Chicago, you know, actually I think they might
be neighbors of yours....
Posted By: dennismoore
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 10:16
Vibrationbaby wrote:
There are two possible solutions for this mess. Actually three solutions. First is for Yes to pack it in and go and pursue hobbies of the rich and used to be famous like flying into space on Richard Branson's space plane or, second, get a f**king chick vocalist. At least it would give us something to look at while we,re listening to all the classics. Anderson even sounds like a chick when he gives interviews. A Yes cover band from Seattle, Washington called Parallells had a female vocalist for a while in 2007-08 named Robyn Dawn. They could call it Robyn Dawn with featuring the Yes cover band Yes. Or they could become a Yes jam band playing wicked cover versions of songs like Dark Star by The Grateful Dead. There's a few videos out on youtube with Robyn Dawn with Parallells. A particularily good one is Perpetual Change from 2008 complete with drum solo. Sorry I don't know how to add videos being from the mid 16th century..
Dear service woman with very mean dog,
You make great points, but I do think that Jon Davison is more than adequate to fill in. As a YES wack-o I am deeply bummed that JA is still out, but I am excited about JD. Have you heard Glass Hammer - If?
I would like to add:
A big reason artists like YES keep touring is that they do need the money. Most are not financial conservatives, and touring is their paycheck as they don't have real jobs like you & I. So I know a lot of the old bands tour cause it is the best way for them to generate income.
For me, I understand that and I have no problem if the concert is still worth hearing. Would I see Styx without Dennis DeYoung, prolly not. But I saw YES with BD and for me it was worth it. Actually my wife who is new to YES, loved it!
As she can't stand Jon Anderson's voice. Much to my chagrin.
About a female voice in YES: For all the talk of Jon Anderson's high voice he does have very much a male component in his voice, dare I say similar to Geddy Lee. We have heard what a female sounds like in YES. Check out Annie Haslam with Steve Howe on their version of Turn Of The Century. I love Renaissance & Annie, but to me the female voice is too fragile(pun intended) and just doesn't work, or I guess I would need to really adjust.
There is a wonderful band from Poland, Quidam. They had an angel for a lead singer. She left and Quidam replaced her with a male vocalist. I try & try but I can't make the adjustment. It is a huge change to make.
Bands with crazy high male vocals:
YES
Journey
RUSH
I am not sure an actual female voice in these bands would work, it certainly would change the dynamics completely.
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 10:34
What about Pavlov's Dog. That David Surkamp really sounded like a Bee Gee. Lots of prog bands sound good with chicks though. Babe Ruth, Octopus ( Ger ), Frumpy, Amon Duul II, Ruphus ( Norway ) , Rennaisance and Curved of course. There's some others but I dunno, bands like Rush, Journey and Yes are lucky they had excellent musicianship. When Rush had that chick Aimee Mann on Time Stand Still I almost pulled my hair out. Why?? Why ?? didn't they keep her and have her on the whole album??Nelly Furtado covered it a couple of years ago.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 30 2012 at 11:25
dennismoore wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
Dude, from the still photo the bass player on the left is your twin, even same eyeglasses!
Great video. Do they play the entire song?
The guitarist on the right with the hollowbody is fabulous. Why is there a 2nd guitarist in the band?
If anything a YES tribute band needs a 2nd keyboard player, I would think...
Anyway, awesome video. I wish I didn't move to the sticks and I could get to see some of the great
YES & RUSH & Genesis & Pink Floyd cover bands....
Did you watch that video I posted? Those people were from Chicago, you know, actually I think they might
be neighbors of yours....
All of "Revealing Science of God" is on Youtube, but they posted it a while back when there were more time limitations on uploads. Just search around for Fragile UK tribute or something.
Yeah, Hook and I look a bit alike! He's a FINE bassist (I knew the late, great Gary Strater of Starcastle, who was in that class). I've met most of the great Rick players of the '70s, some of the younger guys like Chris Hook are right up there.
No, I didn't see your video, Slartibartfast, could you provide the link to that thread? We've had a slough of Yes and Genesis trib bands lately, plus a very good Dio band, a few good UFO trib band etc. Many of these bands are quite excellent & attempt some of the most difficult material.
Have a great weekend! Here's Fragile's website....when Yes lay down and die, these guys may keep going:
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 03:03
dennismoore wrote:
There is a wonderful band from Poland, Quidam. They had an angel for a lead singer. She left and Quidam replaced her with a male vocalist. I try & try but I can't make the adjustment. It is a huge change to make.
Oh the lovely Emila Derkovska, had the chance of seeing them live at that time, she did a cracking cover of Purple's Child in Time which blew the audience up... an angel both in her voice and her looks.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 20:49
This is the first shred of news I've found about the Yes show in Auckland, New Zealand....not much red meat here, but worth a glance:
I'm surprised that no YouTube concert clips have been posted yet! They are usually up within hours of a show (if that). I'd like to see how Davison did. This review said he was somewhat "tentative," but that may be understandable.
I just hope he doesn't get a bad chest-cold or something!
"Though it's Davison's first show with the band, he does original singer Jon Anderson proud. And while he is a little tentative at times, the man who used to be in a Yes tribute band hardly misses a note, which is impressive considering these are hard and high songs to sing."
Posted By: DaleHauskins
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 17:59
San Diego's Yes tribute band "Roundabout" Jon Davison got lots of practice as the lead singer.... http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/aug/16/happy-be-new-yes-man/" rel="nofollow - http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/aug/16/happy-be-new-yes-man/
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 18:34
Nice article. It seems it's all going wonderful for Davison. Though I find a bit distasteful Squire's comment about wishing they had got Davison earlier so they hand't had the need to go with Benoit. I think Benoit did a very nice job with Fly from Here... though I still have hopes that Davison will be an upgrade.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 05:00
Those comments about David were unnecessary. Squire really doesn't seem to be a pleasant man.
Also, what side project between Howe & Hackett??
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 12:02
The one from over 20 years ago, I guess.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 13:13
Here's a brand new article about Jon Davison & Yes. It's sounding to me like Jon D. will be the vocalist on a future Yes CD, so he is likely to split vocalist duties between Yes and Glass Hammer (who have a new CD, "Perilous," coming out in Fall 2012 - final mix being performed as I type this!)
I'd appreciate PA comments - I haven't seen Juano with Yes, but from Youtube clips and reviews, he sounds like he's doing very well in the vocalist slot!!
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 14:27
Squire has been saying he's happy that Davison is also a Song-writer... so I guess that's good news. Yes desperatley need more musical ideas, I hope Davison is the man to give them (when they tried to have Billy Sherwood helping with the songrwriting, they didn't get exactly the best results one could hope for, and I don't think Geoff Downes can give the best ideas for a true prog song either).
Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 14:41
cstack3 wrote:
Here's a brand new article about Jon Davison & Yes. It's sounding to me like Jon D. will be the vocalist on a future Yes CD, so he is likely to split vocalist duties between Yes and Glass Hammer (who have a new CD, "Perilous," coming out in Fall 2012 - final mix being performed as I type this!)
I'd appreciate PA comments - I haven't seen Juano with Yes, but from Youtube clips and reviews, he sounds like he's doing very well in the vocalist slot!!
i saw them a few weeks ago and Davison was phenomenal. just incredible. never missed a note, stayed strong the entire show and had a very cool, mystical presence reminiscent of anderson in the early 70s. i really enjoyed seeing him. chris, alan and steve sounded great too. Jon sang The Ancient with Steve, which i've never seen. they also mixed the set a bit. unfortunately, the songs were slow and Fly From Here was a real buzz kill. the biggest problem was Downes. he is a complete hack and has no business playing with Yes. he's all over the place, low in the mix and made some pretty bad mistakes during the show. not only could not play the intro to awaken, but he popped the organ on in the middle of it and then back to piano. very tacky. i thought that maybe he'd gotten himself together since seeing them last summer.
i'd love to see jon on a yes album. unfortunately, i'm not holding my breath. if it does materialize, i'm not too sure it will be any good. recycling ideas from 1980 gave FfH a boost.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 15:50
They left out the part about stabbing the orginal lead singer and primary songwriter, Jon Anderson, in the back while he lay in the hospital recovering from flat-lining twice at a time when his contract was up for renewal. They also left out the part about the first tribute band singer they hired embarrassing the band repeatedly with subpar performances and disco dancing. YES is now a parody of itself without any soul remaining. It is Big Generator Machine Messiah interested only in stealing money from Jon Anderson fans who do not know what downright nasty and mean people the other members of the band truly are.
- A comment on that page.
Woo hoo
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:13
It's strange to see that after hiring a guy who had a voice completely different from Jon's (Trevor Rabin), they are looking for someone who must have a voice that matches perfectly the one of Jon's. Jon (Anderson) is still active, so why are they looking for a copycat if they can have the original ?
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:15
Because he's pouting in his corner?
Posted By: zumacraig
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 19:14
i really wish steve would do some solo tours and the original band pulled together to record and do some residencies. touring at that age has got to be rough. i'm almost 40 and i'd go insane on tour.
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-Roine Stolt
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 00:01
Dellinger wrote:
Squire has been saying he's happy that Davison is also a Song-writer... so I guess that's good news. Yes desperatley need more musical ideas, I hope Davison is the man to give them (when they tried to have Billy Sherwood helping with the songrwriting, they didn't get exactly the best results one could hope for, and I don't think Geoff Downes can give the best ideas for a true prog song either).
I asked Steve Babb (bassist & keyboardist with Glass Hammer) if Jon Davison is likely to jump ship for Yes, or stay on with Glass Hammer, and he writes:
https://www.facebook.com/steve.babb.9" rel="nofollow - Steve Babb We are ALL involved in numerous musical projects. Its just the way that most modern players work. I'm playing on other peoples albums every day (I'm lucky and do that for a living!).
Jon has never mentioned leaving to me, exactly the opposite. We've never asked him to choose and in fact I knew before he did that he'd be the singer for both Yes and Glass Hammer. (That's another story for another day.)
He's happy in both bands and we're happy for him. Steve Howe has Asia and Jon has Glass Hammer. That's the way Squire sees it I'm sure. If you read the recent interview with audioholics you'll (and the PA folks) will see just how happy he is doing both. All is well in GH world. He sings more on Perilous than he did on either of the last two albums. Glass Hammer is happy. Yes is happy. Prog is happy :) Woo Hoo!!! lol :)
PS: We WANT Jon to be in YES. Maybe it was all part of a clever plan??? <g>
p.p.s. Don't forget, new symphonic concept CD "Perilous" to be released this fall! Steve tells me that the final mixdown sounds fantastic!! I'm lobbying hard for some free MP3 downloads or samples that I can share on PA.
Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 08:50
Jaw-dropping; the way that a band can be just a label, with anyone and everyone thrown in, yet still be accepted under that label defeats all logic. Why don't they give each lineup a different name? Or call it "Yes#45" or something of that ilk? Are the audience mere lemmings who accept such nonsense? The answer seems to be "Yes".
Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 08:52
PS then again, I cant say they can really be blamed when Tull and Crimson et al get away with the same thing and laugh all the way to the bank.
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 08:58
DiamondDog wrote:
PS then again, I cant say they can really be blamed when Tull and Crimson et al get away with the same thing and laugh all the way to the bank.
The difference with both those bands, though much more so in the case of Crimson, is that they change and evolve. I haven't heard Yes change and evolve (at least, not in a good way), since Drama. When Fripp puts together new lineups, they have for the most part sounded like a different band (though some elements have been consistent.....but very few).
Posted By: acdc7369
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 09:08
Yes without Jon Anderson?
Please.
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: August 31 2012 at 22:18
I have seen Yes in the 70s, 80s, and now 2012. I thought Davison's voice was on par or better than Anderson's in his hey day. We would always want to see the "classic" lineup of any band. I enjoyed Yes's latest album released in 2011, Fly From Here. Is it a "Close to the Edge", of course not but it does have some of the old feel to it, mainly in the title track suite and they nailed it live along with some of the classics including Awaken.<p>
Jon Davison is excellent and I don't have a problem with him in Yes, but I do prefer he stay with Glass Hammer more.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 00:00
AEProgman wrote:
I have seen Yes in the 70s, 80s, and now 2012. I thought Davison's voice was on par or better than Anderson's in his hey day. We would always want to see the "classic" lineup of any band. I enjoyed Yes's latest album released in 2011, Fly From Here. Is it a "Close to the Edge", of course not but it does have some of the old feel to it, mainly in the title track suite and they nailed it live along with some of the classics including Awaken.<p>
Jon Davison is excellent and I don't have a problem with him in Yes, but I do prefer he stay with Glass Hammer more.
Nice, thanks! Which shows did you see in the 70's? I saw CTTE tour in 1972 (after Bruford left), Relayer tour twice, and GFTO! Great stuff!
It should be an interesting thing to watch...Yes say they like Jon Davison's composing as well as his vocals, so he may have a significant hand in their next CD (Howe says they don't want to rush anything after "Fly From Here").
Glass Hammer has a new CD coming out any time, "Perilous," and from the bits I've heard, it is killer stuff! Jon Davison sang on that as well. Friends call him "Juano"!
If the two bands coordinate their recording and touring activity (AND if Juano's vocal chords hold out!), they may be able to make it work to mutual advantage. Jon recorded his vocals for "Perilous" during a break in the Yes tour.
Amazing to watch this play out! Davison is the best of the I'm-not-Jon-Anderson vocalists I've heard, by far! (although I always give generous credit to the amazing Annie Haslam for her "Turn of the Century" recording with Howe).
Stay tuned, we may yet get some fresh music from both bands very soon! I'll post "Perilous" information as soon as I can get some from the band!! Cheers to all!
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 04:12
Jon Davison is a good fit with Yes. cstack, weren't you talking about even last year when Yes struggled with Benoit David? I would like them to do something interesting, though, now that they have a singer that fits well in their sound, instead of just touring and touring.
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 05:17
cstack3 wrote:
Howe says they don't want to rush anything after "Fly From Here"
Of course they're not going to rush anything. That's because they don't have any ideas. They never had any idea without Jon Anderson.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 11:35
What I read was that Squire wanted to do a new album as soon as possible, 2013 it seems, now that they are working, while Howe indeed thinks they should nor rush it, but instead do it when they are ready. However, Howe also said he thought that they weren't ready yet for Fly From Here, which in a way he was right, since the best music on that album were leftouts from the 80's (plus the last song, which was a new one... I think written with the help of Oliver). Still, if after 10 years they weren't ready to release a new album, they would never be ready, and if they think the same way about the new one, they will never release it.
Squire has said he liked the idea that Davison is also a writer, so I guess he is more than concious that they don't really have ideas to write something new. I would really love it if Oliver would come back to the band, and the bulk of the writing was done by him and Davison, with some help from the experience of the other guys.
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 17:05
cstack3 wrote:
AEProgman wrote:
I have seen Yes in the 70s, 80s, and now 2012. I thought Davison's voice was on par or better than Anderson's in his hey day. We would always want to see the "classic" lineup of any band. I enjoyed Yes's latest album released in 2011, Fly From Here. Is it a "Close to the Edge", of course not but it does have some of the old feel to it, mainly in the title track suite and they nailed it live along with some of the classics including Awaken.<p>
Jon Davison is excellent and I don't have a problem with him in Yes, but I do prefer he stay with Glass Hammer more.
Nice, thanks! Which shows did you see in the 70's? I saw CTTE tour in 1972 (after Bruford left), Relayer tour twice, and GFTO! Great stuff!
It should be an interesting thing to watch...Yes say they like Jon Davison's composing as well as his vocals, so he may have a significant hand in their next CD (Howe says they don't want to rush anything after "Fly From Here").
Glass Hammer has a new CD coming out any time, "Perilous," and from the bits I've heard, it is killer stuff! Jon Davison sang on that as well. Friends call him "Juano"!
If the two bands coordinate their recording and touring activity (AND if Juano's vocal chords hold out!), they may be able to make it work to mutual advantage. Jon recorded his vocals for "Perilous" during a break in the Yes tour.
Amazing to watch this play out! Davison is the best of the I'm-not-Jon-Anderson vocalists I've heard, by far! (although I always give generous credit to the amazing Annie Haslam for her "Turn of the Century" recording with Howe).
Stay tuned, we may yet get some fresh music from both bands very soon! I'll post "Perilous" information as soon as I can get some from the band!! Cheers to all!
I know for sure I saw the 1974 tour in VA where they did the entire CTTE and Tales suites, awesome. Unfortunately as a sign of the times, the other show I saw in the 70s is a blur and missing from the memory banks...<p>
I am looking forward to"Perilous", however I do need to get "If". I do have "Cor Cordium" (very good) and a few other earlier GH albums.<p>
AEProgman
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 19:35
Dellinger wrote:
What I read was that Squire wanted to do a new album as soon as possible, 2013 it seems, now that they are working, while Howe indeed thinks they should nor rush it, but instead do it when they are ready. However, Howe also said he thought that they weren't ready yet for Fly From Here, which in a way he was right, since the best music on that album were leftouts from the 80's (plus the last song, which was a new one... I think written with the help of Oliver). Still, if after 10 years they weren't ready to release a new album, they would never be ready, and if they think the same way about the new one, they will never release it.
Squire has said he liked the idea that Davison is also a writer, so I guess he is more than concious that they don't really have ideas to write something new. I would really love it if Oliver would come back to the band, and the bulk of the writing was done by him and Davison, with some help from the experience of the other guys.
This link was provided to me directly from Glass Hammer....Yes sound like they will work with Jon Davison on their next CD!
Actually, I think this is quite exciting & I see advantages for both bands....by sharing Jon Davison, Glass Hammer hitches a ride to the Yes PR machine! Not bad!
Yes are probably winding down as a band now, more interested in legacy and quality of any further releases, so they are in no hurry to follow "Fly From Here" with a new release right on its heels. Davison seems destined to have a composing role in the new CD.
Amazing stuff, fun to watch!! Here: http://somethingelsereviews.com/2012/09/02/im-not-just-this-tribute-singer-long-time-fan-jon-davison-thrilled-to-put-his-stamp-on-yes/" rel="nofollow - http://somethingelsereviews.com/2012/09/02/im-not-just-this-tribute-singer-long-time-fan-jon-davison-thrilled-to-put-his-stamp-on-yes/
Posted By: Jagazz
Date Posted: September 04 2012 at 20:11
I just saw this lineup in North Florida a few weeks ago. Great show until the storm knocked out the power. And the new vocalist sounds like early 70s JA.
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 08:38
infandous wrote:
And it's not even written by actual members of Yes! (well, they had to get Geoff back in just so they could pretend it was a Yes album and not a Buggles album)
Now if only Yes had joined the Buggles... rather than the other way around... after all they (the Buggles) were the in form (star) band in... er, 1980!...
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 05 2012 at 18:48
Yes actually played the We can Fly song when they toured with Geoff back in the 80's. It's actually featured in the "The Word is Live" box-set.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 06:03
Dellinger wrote:
Yes actually played the We can Fly song when they toured with Geoff back in the 80's. It's actually featured in the "The Word is Live" box-set.
They did indeed. It was about the time that bottles started to be thrown at Horn
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 06:20
lazland wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
Yes actually played the We can Fly song when they toured with Geoff back in the 80's. It's actually featured in the "The Word is Live" box-set.
They did indeed. It was about the time that bottles started to be thrown at Horn
Yeah, I guess Trev wasn't warmly embraced as JA's successor, was he?
Interesting personal bit about Trevor and his wife, from Wikipedia:
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Horn married former mathematics teacher and business partner Jill
Sinclair in 1980. They have four children; two sons, Aaron and William,
and two daughters, Gabriella and Alexandra (or "Ally"), the latter of
whom has worked as a trainee solicitor. Aaron (known in the industry as "Aaron Audio"), like his father, is a musician and producer. He works with his band, Sam and the Womp and frequently http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ" rel="nofollow - DJs around London. Both Aaron and Ally Horn are co-directors of Sarm Studios.
On 25 June 2006, while at home from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldsmiths_College" rel="nofollow - Goldsmiths College ,
University of London, Aaron was practising with his air rifle, not
realising his mother was close by. A 4,5 mm. (.22 caliber) air gun
pellet accidentally hit Jill in the neck, severing an artery and causing
irreversible brain damage from hypoxia, leaving only her lower brain
functions and no chance for recovery.
She was rushed to Reading hospital intensive care unit where her
condition was described as "critical but stable". She was initially
reported to be under deep sedation in an induced coma.
Communication
from ZTT Records confirmed on 1 September 2006 that Jill is in a natural
coma and had been moved to a rehabilitation centre. In September 2009,
Horn told http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times" rel="nofollow - The Times that he preferred not to answer questions about his wife, but confirmed that she was still in a coma.
Horn said in a June 2012 Sunday Times
interview that she is not in a coma, but, "She cannot speak, move, or
smile. The only expression she can show is of discomfort."
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Man, that's rough!
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 11:21
lazland wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
Yes actually played the We can Fly song when they toured with Geoff back in the 80's. It's actually featured in the "The Word is Live" box-set.
They did indeed. It was about the time that bottles started to be thrown at Horn
I did find the song somewhat pleasing even then, though the sound quality didn't help at all. Now that they at last released it officially on studio, properly worked, I did find it very nice. Certainly not the proggiest thing they have done, but beautiful. And I find Davison's vocals work wonderfully on it.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 12:51
Charles, that story about Horn's wife is exceptionally sad, and I must be honest, I had never heard of this before.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 06 2012 at 12:52
Dellinger wrote:
lazland wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
Yes actually played the We can Fly song when they toured with Geoff back in the 80's. It's actually featured in the "The Word is Live" box-set.
They did indeed. It was about the time that bottles started to be thrown at Horn
I did find the song somewhat pleasing even then, though the sound quality didn't help at all. Now that they at last released it officially on studio, properly worked, I did find it very nice. Certainly not the proggiest thing they have done, but beautiful. And I find Davison's vocals work wonderfully on it.
I haven't heard Davison doing it (I'm sure there is something on YouTube, but can't really be bothered to look), but the album version was very nice. It is a very good song, and easily the highlight of an otherwise okayish album for me.
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