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Topic: Is the Beatles Rubber Soul overlooked?
Posted By: NYSPORTSFAN
Subject: Is the Beatles Rubber Soul overlooked?
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 17:27

 Does anyone think that Rubber Soul really overlooked compared to say Revolver or Sgt. Pepper in terms of the Beatles catalog?

The Doors star says, "There I was, on a classic Lsd bummer. (I) went over to a friend's house. She said, 'Would you like to hear the new Beatles album...?' I said, 'No, I don't want to hear the mop-top fab teens...'

"She said, 'I think you'll like this. Take a look at the album.' And I looked at the album cover and realised, 'My God, they were stoners!' You could see it in their eyes... and then there's a song on the album called I'm Looking Through You."

 

Brian Wilson on the Beatles' Rubber Soul

The band shows increasing sophistication, Lennon shines on Norwegian Wood, and they stun their Beach Boys rival ... Brian Wilson
 
It must have been in November of 1965. I was living in this house in the Hollywood Hills then, way up on Laurel Way, and I remember sitting in the living room one night talking with some friends when another friend came in with a copy of the Beatles’ new one, Rubber Soul, I don’t know if it had even come out yet. But he had it and so we put it on the record player and, wow. As soon as I started hearing it I loved it. I mean, LOVED it!

I still remember hearing Michelle for the first time, and Girl. What an incredible song! Everything about the way John Lennon sang, and the lyrics he was writing. “Oh, girl, girl.” It sounded amazing.

Norwegian Wood is my favorite, too. The lyrics are so good, and so creative, right from the first line: “I once had a girl/ Or should I say, she once had me.” It’s so mysterious. Is he into her, or she into him? It just blew my mind. And in the end, when he wakes up and she’s gone, so he lights a fire. “Isn’t it good? Norwegian wood.” Is he setting her house on fire? I didn’t know. I still don’t know. I thought that was fantastic. I can’t forget the sitar, too, I’d never heard that before, that unbelievable sound. No one had heard that in rock’n’roll back then, this amazing, exotic sound. It really did inspire the instrumentation I ended up using for Pet Sounds.

So many other songs are on there, too. You Won’t See Me is like a cheerful pop song, and Think for Yourself is kind of dark. I’d forgotten that was George’s song. He really wrote that? Well, I know it has that cool fuzzy bass sound. I’d used that already on Little Honda, so it was more familiar to me. But then came The Word, and that was something else, too. A song about love, but not just about girls and boys.
 
Then there’s In My Life, that’s another John song. And that’s my favorite song on the record too, except for Norwegian Wood. I loved the sound of John’s voice. I’d never heard a collection of songs that were all that good before. It’s like a collection of folk songs, and they’re all just really, really great songs. And not just about love. They’re about a lot of different things, but they all go together, somehow.

Listening to Rubber Soul didn’t clarify my ideas for Pet Sounds, exactly. But it inspired me. When we were listening to it that night I said to myself, “Now I’m gonna make an album just as good as Rubber Soul.” Not the same album. Obviously there can only be one album that’s Rubber Soul, just like there can only be one Pet Sounds. But it inspired me to do my own thing, and so the next morning I went to the piano and wrote God Only Knows with Tony Asher.




 




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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 17:33
Yes.

It's a better album than Revolver and 2nd only to their masterpiece, "Let it Be"


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:42
Anyone else think it sounds like someone's smoking a joint on Girl?   Tongue

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 18:48
yep....and every other track...Lennon said that was "the pot album."  


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: January 18 2012 at 23:15
Sgt Peppers, save for some incredible compositions like Day in a Life, is a tad st overrated from amongst the classic Beatles albums.  I might want to take Rubber Soul over Sgt.  But I like Revolver more than both.


Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 01:21
It's definitely The Beatles' transition album but IMHO it does not come close to Revolver.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 01:52
No it isn't overlooked. As far as I notice it is well regarded and loved.

Not as good as Revolver though as some maintain. But if someone prefers it to Revolver, well of course, that is fine and you don't need me to say so or allow it so ignore this post.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 05:10
I consider it one of the essentials for the prog fan as is everything after except Yellow Submarine perhaps.  The ratings on this site pretty much track how I regard the albums.

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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 06:02
No Beatles album is overlooked. They're the Beatles.


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 06:25
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

No Beatles album is overlooked. They're the Beatles.

yyyep 


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 06:36
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

No Beatles album is overlooked. They're the Beatles.

yyyep 

Amen


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 06:48
Read the OP.  The question was not "is the album overlooked" generally or anything to do with Beatles popularity generally.  It was, is the album overlooked compared to it's two big brothers.  Clearly, yes.  Revolver and Pepper are routinely deified.  Rubber Soul gets far less love even though fans know it is very good. 


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 07:11
I was surprised to see Let It Be getting a rating in the lower 3's.  Rubber Soul did make it to the upper 3's.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 07:39
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Read the OP.  The question was not "is the album overlooked" generally or anything to do with Beatles popularity generally.  It was, is the album overlooked compared to it's two big brothers.  Clearly, yes.  Revolver and Pepper are routinely deified.  Rubber Soul gets far less love even though fans know it is very good. 

I honestly could not be bothered to read all that. Still won't. But as I aid..no..it isn't overlooked compered to the other two. It isn't as well loved or as highly regar5ded..but not "overlooked"


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 07:49

You only had to read the first sentence SnowieLOL

And your distinction that overlooked does not equal loved is duly notedWink


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 07:53
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

You only had to read the first sentence SnowieLOL

And your distinction that overlooked does not equal loved is duly notedWink

I suppose it does rather boil down to what we mean by overlooked. Or actually what the OP meant. But you seriously think it is better than Revolver? Nothing wrong with that of course. Rubber Soul is a fine album by any standards.Smile


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 07:55
Would it help if the text was smaller? Tongue

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 08:04
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

You only had to read the first sentence SnowieLOL

And your distinction that overlooked does not equal loved is duly notedWink

I suppose it does rather boil down to what we mean by overlooked. Or actually what the OP meant. But you seriously think it is better than Revolver? Nothing wrong with that of course. Rubber Soul is a fine album by any standards.Smile
 
 
Well, who's to say what *is* better.  But I like it better than Revolver.  Then again, I like Let it Be WAY more than Abbey Road, so most Beatles fans will find me certifiable anyway.   Let it Be is soulful, real, gritty, nearly every song grabs me.  Abbey is over-crafted fluff, much of it. 
 
So yeah, my views on the Beatles are not popularLOL


Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 08:19
From my review:
 
This may be the best album ever made. The Beatles, that almost unholy convergence of talent and good luck, were just starting to grow up. Their pop craft was at its sharpest and if I were to pick one album as a textbook for songwriting, this is the one. Melody, harmony, economy, rhythm, all the basics are so perfectly in evidence here that despite hour after hour of study, I still learn every time I return to these songs.  


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Posted By: Ludjak
Date Posted: January 19 2012 at 09:39
Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's... have always seemed like sort of a trilogy to me, progressing from the songbook format to more elaborate efforts (with the final two albums + the ill-fated Let It Be showing a mature group with a focus that has never been seen before or since). Having said that, Rubber Soul is undoubtedly the best songbook The Beatles made, and I prefer it to Revolver by a hair (i.e. that awesomely fuzzy bass in 'Think for Yourself' Cool).


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: January 20 2012 at 21:27
I actually have the albums rated White Album, Abbey Road, Revolver, Rubber Soul and then Sgt. Peppers, in that order. Although I understand the epochal importance of Sgt. Peppers, If one removes the societal claptrap and generational folderol, the compositional qualities of the other albums are clearly better.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 01:13
Not overlooked, probably just the opposite; fully explored as a collection of quality songs and found to be an important transitional record for both them and popular music, but with limitations that were done away with on the transformative Revolver.



Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 07:26
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Not overlooked, probably just the opposite; fully explored as a collection of quality songs and found to be an important transitional record for both them and popular music, but with limitations that were done away with on the transformative Revolver.

Interesting, what do you consider those limitations to be?

On a side note this the first Beatles CD in my collection that got replaced with the latest remaster.  Also came out the year I was born. Cool


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 07:50
Never overlook a rubber.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 16:39
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Not overlooked, probably just the opposite; fully explored as a collection of quality songs and found to be an important transitional record for both them and popular music, but with limitations that were done away with on the transformative Revolver.
Interesting, what do you consider those limitations to be?
I think the material speaks to that, mainly in the traditional structures (even mimicking Dylan at times)--  whereas something like 'Eleanor Rigby', 'Tomorrow Never Knows', 'I Want to Tell You' or even 'Good Day Sunshine' were true breakthroughs not just in terms of Pop innovation but also as a light toward the liberation the band - and everyone after them - began to show from that point on.




Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 17:45
Well, I do confess to liking Revolver better.  And it's certainly transitional, but Revolver has its transitional songs, too, just less of them.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 17:54
as I said Revolver is transformational, not just transitional



Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 17:55
I think what made Rubber Soul stand out was more adventurous lyrics than they had been doing.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 17:58
yes, but that was not terribly new in pop music as the Folkies had been doing that for years, and usually much better




Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 18:11
I spent my review of both arguing why Rubber Soul is better, so I won't regurgitate it here.  You can check them out if you want one man's unpopular Beatles opinions.....I understand the huge ratings gap between the two likely means I am wrong.  I accept that. 

I will leave you with one line from the review...

Yeah Revolver has more tricks up it sleeves, but Rubber Soul was the nicer shirt. LOL


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 18:24
^ That's a great line Jim, and I'd agree with the imagery--  perhaps it is that very change of shirt that draws me to Revolver, as it was when they really came into their own as composers rather than just superbly produced songsmiths.  In many ways they had been almost an "impressionist" band with a yearn for almost everything mid-20th Century [you can hear this even on Peppers with 'When I'm Sixty-Four'], and it was Revolver that showed a personal depth unseen to that point, IMO.



Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 18:40
You hit on something there David....perhaps I just appreciate the quality "songsmith" approach more than the complexities, at least in Beatle land....that would explain my preference of LiB to Abbey......the former being more blue collar and song-smithy while the latter more elaborate?  Just a thought. 

Anyway, it's all great stuff!


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 18:43
yep they were always fresh, making the records timeless



Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 19:01
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

yes, but that was not terribly new in pop music as the Folkies had been doing that for years, and usually much better


Doesn't really matter what influence was, it made a difference.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 19:02
true enough



Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 19:49
Great insights guys.Thumbs Up

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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 02:32
Not overlooked. I once thought I didn't listen to Rubber Soul enough, so I listened to it more, and I wish I had listened to Pet Sounds or Abbey Road instead. I tried to "look" into it more, and was tired by it, therefore it can't be overlooked.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 04:17
Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

Not overlooked. I once thought I didn't listen to Rubber Soul enough, so I listened to it more, and I wish I had listened to Pet Sounds or Abbey Road instead. I tried to "look" into it more, and was tired by it, therefore it can't be overlooked.

You can never get those moments in your life back, man. Tongue


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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 10:18
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Not overlooked, probably just the opposite; fully explored as a collection of quality songs and found to be an important transitional record for both them and popular music, but with limitations that were done away with on the transformative Revolver.
Interesting, what do you consider those limitations to be?
I think the material speaks to that, mainly in the traditional structures (even mimicking Dylan at times)--  whereas something like 'Eleanor Rigby', 'Tomorrow Never Knows', 'I Want to Tell You' or even 'Good Day Sunshine' were true breakthroughs not just in terms of Pop innovation but also as a light toward the liberation the band - and everyone after them - began to show from that point on.




Agree strongly with this.  Also, other than In My Life, I don't find the songs on Rubber Soul quite as poignant as some of the best songs from Revolver...not to say they aren't, generally speaking.


Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 18:19
It seemed when I first heard "I Don't Want To Spoil the Party" from Beatles For Sale it dawned on me that this new style which was acoustic was developing into what they wrote  later which was Rubber Soul. To an extent songs like "No Reply" and "I'm A Loser" are examples of this change. Early acoustic songs like "Till There Was You" and "This Boy" were based off chord progressions that were used mostly in the 50's. "I'll Be Back" obviously was not. On Rubber Soul with songs like "I'm Looking Through You" and "Girl" it sounded like they had made a huge leap into a different style. Originally on the American release of Rubber Soul it opened with "I've Just Seen A Face" and left quite an impression on American kids who heard it for the first time. Although the song was not meant to appear on the English version of Rubber Soul and instead was found on Help, it fit the style of Rubber Soul. 
I wasn't fond of the Beatles American "Rock N' Roll" covers except for John Lennon's "Twist and Shout" and "Rock N" Roll Music". But with Rubber Soul's release and the influence it had on all the great writers of that day,,,it would be logical to assume that the Beatles had created a style of their own which involves surpressing their own personal influences and although sometimes incorporating the influences which are not to be indicated by the human ear and in result of this they sound more original to the listener. For example ,,,they might have written a song which had the obvious 1920's Big Band or dixieland style. But it had no reflection on their creative song writing. It was just an addition to their song. "Cry Baby Cry" and 30 others have chord progressions that just don't enter the minds of other great songwriters.   


Posted By: NYSPORTSFAN
Date Posted: January 28 2012 at 07:59
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

yes, but that was not terribly new in pop music as the Folkies had been doing that for years, and usually much better


 
When you say better are talking about lyrically? If you are talking about songcraft I would like to know which folkies who were better than the Beatles at the Beatles own style of combining  pop melodies with unusual harmonic progressions with using sources that were obviously outside of  rock and roll?  As it is folk music was one branch to a huge tree for the band.
 
I think the Beatles had kind of broken new ground lyrically with songs like the "The Word" with it's pre-hippie "All You Need Is Love" sentiment or  "Girl".
 
 


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 28 2012 at 19:00
^  when I say 'better' I mean the real article - in this case folk musicians primarily in the US but also Britain - were better at writing the kind of ironic, cautionary and even grim folk-style lyrics than the Beatles [e.g. 'Norwegian Wood'] ; and yes in many ways better at blending folk music with pop.   Are you going to tell me that Paul McCartney and John Lennon wrote Folk lyrics superior to Dylan, Seeger, Guthrie, Collins, Stills, and Mitchell, or that Lennon/McCartney better ushered authentic folk into a pop market?   I don't think so.



Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 29 2012 at 07:38
I took a look over the album so no...

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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: January 29 2012 at 19:14
Rubber Soul is a great album. Might not be up there with Dylan, at the time, but certainly as groundbreaking. In the original configuration (not the American version) we've got, amongst many others, Drive My Car, Nowhere Man, Girl, In My Life, and of course Michelle. I don't see how it'd be underrated, expect by those who just don't like The Beatles.

I always liked it, and traded my Dave Clark Five's Greatest Hits to a rube for it at the time. He was happy to have Glad All Over. I was happy to have The Word.


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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 13:06
I don't think it's overlooked, given that "Drive My Car", "Nowhere Man" and "In My Life", three of the band's well known songs, are on it. 

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 13:21
My favorites are The Word and Looking Through You.

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 18 2012 at 01:58
Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha KingCrInuYasha wrote:

I don't think it's overlooked, given that "Drive My Car", "Nowhere Man" and "In My Life", three of the band's well known songs, are on it. 

The songs may not be overlooked, but the album in general may be. If someone asked you "What album is it from?", you would probably be like: "Uh ... I forgot." Not you, KingCrlnuYasha. I mean, take any person who does not listen to music on a regular basis, perhaps.

On the topic: define "overlooked." I looked up M-W and concluded that Rubber Soul is indeed overlooked because of the musico-revolutionary nature of Revolver and Sgt. Pepper. In fact, I think even Revolver is overlooked due to the obvious artistic superiority of Sgt. Pepper, a "concept" album (at least that's what others call it), the unique artwork, a twisted take on the classical instrumentation in pop music, ... what did I miss?


Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: March 18 2012 at 13:40
One point no one has raised-
are we talking about the album as released in the UK or the USA?

I have always considered Revolver with the track listing released in the UK as a solid contender for the first prog album.

I love Rubber Soul. It is not overlooked in my peer group.
It's one Beatles album we all know of.


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 19 2012 at 01:27
Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

One point no one has raised-
are we talking about the album as released in the UK or the USA?

I have always considered Revolver with the track listing released in the UK as a solid contender for the first prog album.

I love Rubber Soul. It is not overlooked in my peer group.
It's one Beatles album we all know of.

Good point. I meant the UK version because the US one doesn't have 'Nowhere Man' on it, although the latter is also very nice Smile . I probably should give Revolver another listen 'cause I really like it Smile , although I have already made up my mind about half of its stuff that just sounds like ...it (I apologize.)


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 19 2012 at 08:52
I grew up with the US version of "Rubber Soul" as one of the earliest records I had, I used to play it on a toy Fisher Price record player.  It's very different - instead of opening with the rocking "Drive My Car", it instead opened with the country folk of "I've Just Seen a Face" (which was on "Help" in the UK).  It gives the whole album a more rustic feel.  Plus, side two opened up with the subtle, pensive "It's Only Love" instead of the Ringo-sung "What Goes On".  In fact, if the UK Rubber Soul didn't have the superb "Nowhere Man" on it, I'd be tempted to give the US version the upper hand here.

Back to topic - is it overlooked?  Hard to say.  I've lived and breathed Beatles my whole life, and most people I know who like the Beatles agree with me that pretty much every album they put out was essential in its own way.  They're kind of the gold standard in record making.


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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 11:51
Overlooked (underestimated) relative to what?
 
Relative to:
 
- no. ratings? Yes, this is "first grade" prog - more PA members should know/rate this.
- no. of special collabs and Prog Reviewers rating the album? IMO, Yes. How would it alter the rating? possibly upwards.
- the year released? A pure 5.0 rating as - IMO - it is the best popular/mainstream album released up to 1965.
- subsequent releases by The Beatles? No, not IMO.
- innovation? yes!
- overall rating? no.
- my personal view? yes, it's better than Revolver as opposed to the ratings


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 12:48
Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Overlooked (underestimated) relative to what?
 
Relative to:
 
- no. ratings? Yes, this is "first grade" prog - more PA members should know/rate this.
- no. of special collabs and Prog Reviewers rating the album? IMO, Yes. How would it alter the rating? possibly upwards.
- the year released? A pure 5.0 rating as - IMO - it is the best popular/mainstream album released up to 1965.
- subsequent releases by The Beatles? No, not IMO.
- innovation? yes!
- overall rating? no.
- my personal view? yes, it's better than Revolver as opposed to the ratings

I would still maintain my argument that "overlooked" and "underestimated" are two somewhat different things.


Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: April 08 2012 at 15:03
Love it, On a par with the others. My favourite Beatles will always be "Abbey Road". But as most know here, I like em' all. "Rubber Soul" gets as much play as the others and actually is always loved by everybody here at home. Fabulous album. "Nowhere Man" is my fave song

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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: April 10 2012 at 22:35
Beatles for Sale is overlooked, IMHO. Despite a few clunkers on that record.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 11 2012 at 08:51
Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

One point no one has raised-
are we talking about the album as released in the UK or the USA?

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The UK version is how The Beatles intended the album to be. The US versions were always tailored up till Revolver.


Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 11 2012 at 09:07
I'm not sure which version i have, but i think the album have some nice songs and some i really don't care about.
The songs were starting to be a little more interesting, but nothing special just yet, i consider it a transitional album.
The big leap was Revolver, where the writing was much interesting and adventurous, they left behind their happy clappy days and moved towards somewhere they have never been before. But this is just my opinion i understand why people like it more than i do.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 11 2012 at 09:10
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

One point no one has raised-
are we talking about the album as released in the UK or the USA?

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The UK version is how The Beatles intended the album to be. The US versions were always tailored up till Revolver.

Up to and including Revolver. Which has three tracks missing in the US version. You probably know this.


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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 11 2012 at 11:37
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

One point no one has raised-
are we talking about the album as released in the UK or the USA?

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The UK version is how The Beatles intended the album to be. The US versions were always tailored up till Revolver.

Up to and including Revolver. Which has three tracks missing in the US version. You probably know this.


All three of which are John Lennon-sung tracks, oddly enough.  That means on the US version John only sings two songs instead of five on the UK version.  Quite a difference.


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 11 2012 at 12:06
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by hobocamp hobocamp wrote:

One point no one has raised-
are we talking about the album as released in the UK or the USA?

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The UK version is how The Beatles intended the album to be. The US versions were always tailored up till Revolver.

Up to and including Revolver. Which has three tracks missing in the US version. You probably know this.
Yes, but my memory's not what it was Steve Ian.



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