Post 70's Prog World Cup: Tool- Kayo Dot
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Topic: Post 70's Prog World Cup: Tool- Kayo Dot
Posted By: Morningrise
Subject: Post 70's Prog World Cup: Tool- Kayo Dot
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 00:28
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Pick your favorite
World Cup so far:
 Deadline for this poll: October 18th
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Replies:
Posted By: progistoomainstream
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 01:01
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It's hard to call radiohead prog. ------------- 
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 01:21
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Love both, but voting Kayo as I expect Tool to be able to dominate this easily ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 03:01
Dear lord, Kayo Dot are going to lose 
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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 04:01
Easiest round of all time!  |
Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 04:15
| Tool is my favorite band of all time. Sorry Kayo Dot, love ya anyways though. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 05:05
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One more for KD ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 06:10
| KD easily, I don't like Tool at all. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 07:12
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Kayo Dot, but it looks like a nother favourit band of mine is on the way out early.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 07:57
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I haven't heard any Tool because pfffft, but I'll be willing enough to play dirty with a vote for KD, should they still be in trouble by the end of this.
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 07:59
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Kayo dot!
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 08:15
------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Prog Geo wrote:Posted By: DanthraX
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 08:45
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TooL by 44594094030490394 miles ------------- I look up, I'm almost blinded by the warmth of what's inside me and the taste that's in my soul, but I'm dead inside as I stand alone... |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 08:56
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KD is great, but I prefer Tool. They're one of the the bands that got me into music.
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 08:58
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If KD wins, though, we'll get to see "DT vs. KD." That would be the sh*tstorm of a century.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 09:12
| Kayo Dot by 44594094030490394 miles |
Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 09:41
| Kayo Dot !! Amazing band |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 09:58
| Tool for sure |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 10:07
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Not too keen on either band, but Tool is Ok when I am in the right mood. ------------- 
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 10:12
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Kayo dot |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 11:20
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I like the one Kayo Dot I have (Coyote) more than the one Tool I have (10000 Days), but I probably best not vote based on such a small sample. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 12:15
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Kayo Dot.
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 12:29
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Neither are my favourites. I went for Tool. I just can't get into Kayo Dot. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 12:47
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From what I've heard, which is the four Kayo Dot studio albums and not much Tool, I hugely prefer Kayo Dot, but it would be unfair of me to vote without having heard a comparable amount of Tool, so no vote (at least at this time). Perhaps I will vote if people post youtube tracks of both in this poll and will vote purely based on those. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:16
| Toby Driver is only the greatest composer of the 21st century, no big... |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:18
I doubt it would reach the heights of your DT vs. Magma poll.  |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:19
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Tool for me, as much as I do not believe they are a prog band, but more of an adventurous modern rock band, just like Radiohead. But Tool is still better than Kayo Dot
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:20
I don't know, it might! ------------- |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:21
How is this not prog? ------------- |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:25
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I'll admit, they have a few songs, especially on 10000 Days, but overall, no. Ive been into Tool since 1999 or 2000, and I never heard anyone refer to Tool as a prog rock band until around the time 10000 Days came out, and all of a sudden, they were considered prog rock. They were always considered alt-rock, or alt-metal whatever. Same thing with Radiohead (except Ive never been into them) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:33
On Aenima, we have stuff like Eulogy, Push*t, and Third Eye. I think the reason that they've only been recently been referred to as prog is because the term "prog" has only recently lost its stigmatization. ------------- |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:41
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Maybe. I'm not denying that they don't do some wild things, and as I said they are adventurous. There's odd time sigs, long song structure. I put them in a similar category as System of A Down, who are also adventurous, though not as much as Tool. They just don't belong being grouped with bands like Kayo Dot, GYBE, The Flower Kings, Beardfish, etc... I would even say The Mars Volta should be lumped in with Tool and SOAD, due to popularity and style, but TMV go one step further, maybe it's the psych thing that propels them into the prog territory.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:54
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Tool have been considered Prog Metal pretty much ever since Lateralus came out, I've certainly seen them reffered to as such long before 10 000 Days got released. I'd also say that Lateralus was a prog metal album since there's very little on it that can realistacly be considered as having a comercial song structure (unlike SoaD, who despite being very adventerous still rely heavily on that structure). BTW, what the hell does popularity have to do with anything when conisdering whether a band is prog or not? ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 13:59
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It doesn't. Re-read what I typed.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 14:02
Can we just skip to the Porcupine Tree vs Dream Theater poll and get it over with? 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 14:04
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Add Coheed and Cambria to that list of bands. (not you Epignosis). Bands that incorporate many prog elements, but are at a core of some other style of music
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 14:27
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Kayo Dot!! Not a big fan of Tool. Coyote is a masterpiece. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 15:01
Honestly, all I ever hear from Tool is stretched out alt-rock songs. I'm not protesting their inclusion on the site or anything, but I pretty much agree with him. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 15:56
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Kayo Dot I suppose. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 16:07
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Kayo Dot. Never got what's so great about Tool (though they have their moments) |
Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 16:20
| Tool. They are the King Crimson of our day. and they brought prog to the radio. |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 16:26
| K-Dot. Nothing Tool is capable of will ever reach the dizzy heights of Choirs of the Eye. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 16:55
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Kayo Dot fo sho ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 17:02
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K-Dot. I REALLY don't like Tool. ------------- 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 17:04
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I'm not keen on either. Tool maybe a bit more, but meh either way.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 17:07
Not really.  Kayo Dot for me. Toby is great.  ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 17:18
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I'm going to make a prog-rock epic. Just need to downstroke drop-d powerchords ;) |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 17:29
Here's the Tool track with most views (ca 15 000 000) on youtube: and the Kayo Dot with most views (ca 33000) Now vote (for the latter). |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 19:44
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I'm no tool so I decided to vote my own way,... ... which is, of course, for the latter. :) |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 19:59
fanboy v. fanboy ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 20:35
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Tool. Lateralus and Aenima are two of the best albums in the past 20 years. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: October 15 2011 at 21:00
| Both are amazing. But Kayo Dot. |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 02:27
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ooooooooooooo this is getting interesting. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 04:28
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The real question is, will either of these bands beat Dream Theater when they go up against them? (I say nay)
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 06:13
That's called Crossover
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 07:26
DT has an impressive amount of haters (not proud of it but me included) so y'know it can happen. I'd choose Tool, who I don't like, but really don't hate over DT any day. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 07:37
| Tool. KD just doesn't do it for me. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 08:16
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Wow, this is a lot closer than I thought it would be. We need 4 more people for KD!
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 14:59
| Kayo Dot fanboys, unite! |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 15:21
You have already voted in this poll 
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 15:23
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Love Kayo (who I voted for) but i'm ok with tool winning because I think they have a better chance of nocking DT out of the running, and the whole compitition will be much more interesting without DT fan boys destroying everything in their path. ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 15:57
I'm insulted ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 16:08
| How could anyone vote against DT? They are the gods of prog metal, they change time signature every few bars, and their vocalist is the most accomplished psuedo-classical singer in modern compositional music. Indeed, voting against DT is like voting against god. It's a logical fallacy which will incur the wrath of legions of followers. Except god can't sweep pick arpeggios like Petrucci. |
Posted By: DanthraX
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 16:10
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lol ------------- I look up, I'm almost blinded by the warmth of what's inside me and the taste that's in my soul, but I'm dead inside as I stand alone... |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 16:13
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Hammer ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 16:17
------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 16:24
Exactly   ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 16:25
Or Porcupine Tree fanboys destroying everything in their path, or Tool fanboys destroying everything in their path, or Opeth fanboys destroying everything in their path. Sorry but seeing as Talk Talk came within 6 votes of beating DT, you've only picked them as a scapegoat, which is so immature. The real problem with this poll is that people vote for the most popular band, because they don't regularly listen to both bands, and therefore vote for the one they actually listen to. This means that the most popular bands stroll through, and is why Porcupine Tree will win the overall trophy, because they are the most accessible prog band to all subgenre fans. I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets fed up of pretentious 'purists' using DT to bash everything they hate about modern prog. Mainly that people who aren't 'die hard fans' liking it. Sacrilege!
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 16:25
Ah, I was only kidding. Fanboy I may be, I'm not one of the obsessive compulsive infatuated fanboys (anymore, at least) ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: October 16 2011 at 21:47
Last I checked not liking DT was an acceptable opinion. And I'm not even doing anything against DT, as I mentioned I voted Kayo even though I don't think they stand a chance against DT the way Tool do, I was just commenting that I wouldn't mind seeing tool win this and take out DT... the same way you might prefer to see Kayo Dot win and give DT a better chance... ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 02:35
I would prefer Kayo Dot to win because they are the better band, not because it would make it easier for DT to win. I even voted for Talk Talk against Dream Theater in their round because they are the better band. Of course not liking DT is an acceptable opinion, Re-read my post. I said that you should be voting for the band you like the most, not the one who's going to knock out bands, the fans of which you dislike .Also your music taste is remarkably similar to mine, so once again, try to do your research before you 'have a go'.
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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 08:00
| Last day to vote. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 09:42
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: DT fanboys are annoying, but DT haters are far worse.
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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 10:47
Seconded. |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 13:37
 ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 13:40
Tool is a really good band but one doesn't compete with Kayo Dot 
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 13:45
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Tool, partially because I like them and partially because I'm not a Kayo Dot fan.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 14:04
I think both bands are no great shakes, so Tool is lesser of two evils after all. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: October 17 2011 at 16:12
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I love Tool but I don't really think they are prog Kayo Dot is OK voted for Tool ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: October 18 2011 at 06:12
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:01
I quite like Images and Words but I'm almost unable to listen to any other DT album even if I don't dislike the progressive metal and I like Transatlantic. But we are in a poll between Kayo Dot and Tool. Why don't we stick on them? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 18 2011 at 07:29
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Poll closed. Final score: Tool 43- Kayo Dot 35 |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 18 2011 at 18:41
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Aw. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 18 2011 at 18:41
| BOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 18 2011 at 19:53
? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 20 2011 at 02:48
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closed! ------------- 
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